January 14, 2009
CHARM OFFENSIVE.... Oh, to have been a fly on the wall for this one.
Barack Obama took the next big step in his Republican charm offensive on Tuesday night, when he dined with several of the nation's most prominent conservative pundits.
The president-elect arrived at the Chevy Chase, Md., home of syndicated columnist George Will shortly after 6:30 p.m., according to a press pool report. Greeting him at the residence were other luminaries of the conservative commentariat, including the Weekly Standard's William Kristol, New York Times columnist David Brooks, and Charles Krauthammer of the Washington Post. [...]
Obama's choice of dining partners seem likely to cause its fair share of hair-pulling and eye-rolling. As the pool reporter, Ken Bazinet of the New York Daily News, penned in his write up: "This is for real, folks. The bloggers are going to love this one."
There was some speculation that Rush Limbaugh had also joined the soiree, but that turned out not to be the case.
Now, I'll concede that my first instinct was to complain and compile a list of all the outrageous things Will, Kristol, Brooks, and Krauthammer have said/written -- on a variety of topics, including but not limited to Obama. It's tempting to note that the president-elect can do better when it comes to lining up dinner companions. (I'm half-surprised Obama didn't agree to meet Brooks at an Applebee's, so they can admire its salad-bar.)
But upon reflection, Obama breaking bread with four leading conservative columnists isn't especially troubling. It might even be a good idea.
Obama really has nothing to lose by trying to engage these four. Each seems rather susceptible to flattery, and they were no doubt thrilled not only with the access, but with the chance to tell the president-elect how right they are. I'm sure Obama listened politely, hoping that the outreach might pay dividends over time, in the form of a more civil discourse, and possibly even the benefit of the doubt. The president-elect would hardly be the first leader to try to neutralize detractors.
And if it doesn't, Obama wasted a pre-inaugural night, maybe picking up some new credibility from the David Broders of the world for making an effort to engage prominent critics on the other side. All of Obama's talk about bringing people together, hearing competing ideas, building bridges, and disagreeing without being disagreeable is reinforced nicely by a dinner like this one.
This was the first dinner with prominent columnists, but it apparently won't be the last. Marc Ambinder reported, "Tomorrow, I hear Obama has another private meeting with non-Republican opinion columnists."
If Obama, in the interest of ideological diversity, also wants to chat with some writers on the left, I should note that I'd gladly clear my schedule for him.
—Steve Benen 8:00 AM
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You got it all wrong. He spent the whole time planning the continued rape of America and laughing at the rubes.
Posted by: Boronx on January 14, 2009 at 7:58 AM | PERMALINK
It would be a good thing if the unhinged rhetoric from the right (see above comment) cooled off a bit, at least. But I don't expect it.
Posted by: MattF on January 14, 2009 at 8:05 AM | PERMALINK
I should note that I'd gladly clear my schedule for him.
Better yet invite him to Vermont.
Rumor has it that a president, or president-elect, hasn't visited The Green Mountain State in over 8 years. You guys are due for a little post-Bush lovin'...
Posted by: koreyel on January 14, 2009 at 8:09 AM | PERMALINK
Applying salve to the wound before it's infected? Seems smart to me.
The press BBQ worked for Maverick Man for a quite awhile. Obama must be taking cues.
Posted by: MissMudd on January 14, 2009 at 8:16 AM | PERMALINK
Yet another instance of the master of political ju-jitsu at work. Shades of "Mandrake gestures hypnotically". . .
Posted by: DAY on January 14, 2009 at 8:18 AM | PERMALINK
Media celebrity elites. Cigars, even without Rush, were in order.
Now how about a dinner with some common folks who know the meaning of work of the non cerebral kind. That would truly be out of order.
Posted by: lou on January 14, 2009 at 8:19 AM | PERMALINK
Straight out of Sun Tzu.
Posted by: kenga on January 14, 2009 at 8:33 AM | PERMALINK
With that quartet of conservative pundits, breaking wind would be more appropriate.
Posted by: Shag from Brookline on January 14, 2009 at 8:38 AM | PERMALINK
Personally, I think he went just to rub their noses in the fact that they were completely ineffective at stopping his steam-roller of a candidacy. That and George Will makes a mean creme brulee.
Posted by: Media Browski on January 14, 2009 at 8:48 AM | PERMALINK
There is a whole world of people who live outside the Beltway. For the rest of us, simply being heard in a respectful manner, even through our proxies, means something. I might never agree with you, but I probably won't hate you.
That is what was so infuriating about the recent Republican rule. Once they got to 50% plus 1, they really didn't care what anyone else had to say and refuse to even let people have their say. That is an underlying cause for the contempt and hatred of the Republican rule of 2002-2006.
I think Obama understands that listening is not only the right thing for him to do, it also pays dividends. Reagan had a knack for convincing everyone that he was listening to them. That was one reason it was so hard to organize a counter-attack.
Posted by: Catfish on January 14, 2009 at 8:57 AM | PERMALINK
...the unhinged rhetoric from the right (see above comment)...
Actually, I think the above comment was unhinged rhetoric from the left.
Posted by: Spanky on January 14, 2009 at 9:00 AM | PERMALINK
"keep your friends close, and your enemies closer" (i like to add, "the knife goes in so much easier that way")
maybe reincarnation is real, and obama is actually sun tzu instead of jfk.
Posted by: Personal Failure on January 14, 2009 at 9:01 AM | PERMALINK
Yeah, so much to hear - Wills on the Baltimore Orioles, Kraut on "Water boarding on a psychiatric couch", Kristol on "I'm sure I said or wrote something pertinent, once", and Brooks on buying .22 caliber rifles at Wal*Mart, following lunch at Overland Park's Applebys. Shame that none of them have the ability to really listen to and understand the wisdom of Obama.
Posted by: berttheclock on January 14, 2009 at 9:11 AM | PERMALINK
@Spanky
Apparently. I probably should have realized that a right-winger wouldn't have used 'rape' as a metaphor.
Posted by: MattF on January 14, 2009 at 9:15 AM | PERMALINK
maybe picking up some new credibility from the David Broders of the world
Not when Broder wasn't invited.
Posted by: j.e.b. on January 14, 2009 at 9:23 AM | PERMALINK
I going to try and check my cynicism for a moment and concede that there might be value in an of camera discussion about national priorites with conservative opinion framers. That is change I will try to believe in.
Posted by: Winkandanod on January 14, 2009 at 9:27 AM | PERMALINK
Not when Broder wasn't invited.
You may be the only one who noticed that. I doubt anyone in the room did.
I hope Obama asked to use a bathroom and "got lost" so he could check out a) Will's baseball card collection and b) whether he has a whole set of bad toupees, or whether the only atrocious rug Will owns was residing on his head.
Posted by: shortstop on January 14, 2009 at 9:36 AM | PERMALINK
They probably spent the whole evening talking about the Fairness Doctrine. Also, Mark Shields must have had that "what am I- Alan Colmes?" feeling.
Posted by: Danp on January 14, 2009 at 9:46 AM | PERMALINK
"If Obama, in the interest of ideological diversity, also wants to chat with some writers on the left, I should note that I'd gladly clear my schedule for him."
irony is not dead in the age of obama.
Posted by: karen marie on January 14, 2009 at 9:56 AM | PERMALINK
I do not want to see Obama being disrespectful to his opponents and should meet with and listen to the Republicans in Congress. However I feel strongly that his dining with these neocon pundits only enhances their legitimacy just at the time Americans have woken up to how disastrously wrong their world view is.
The last 8 years should leave no doubt that these guys are the last people to listen to. Their position on both economics and foreign policy, both of which Bush implemented with a vengeance, has been totally discredited. Neither Republicans nor Democrats should give these guys any attention.
Posted by: BernieO on January 14, 2009 at 10:00 AM | PERMALINK
I for one think that this is very ominous. It becomes more and more clear every day that he is going to go out of his way to please the Krauthammers and Kristols by abandoning basic liberal positions in the name of reconciliation and bipartisanship.
His first dinner with columnists should have been with Krugman and Yglesias.
Posted by: gregor on January 14, 2009 at 10:02 AM | PERMALINK
Bad rugs? Did Cal Thomas sneak in?
Posted by: berttheclock on January 14, 2009 at 10:05 AM | PERMALINK
i couldn't imagine trying to eat dinner while looking across the table at the hammer. let alone having to listen to him.
Posted by: mellowjohn on January 14, 2009 at 10:21 AM | PERMALINK
President-Elect Obama did fail to meet with the New York Times editorial staff so they laid a curse on him (the "One-Term curse.") You can see why it is imperative that he meet with all newpaper writers eventually.
Posted by: mikeyes on January 14, 2009 at 10:36 AM | PERMALINK
For Obama I think this is akin to a pick up game of basketball. Show up at the court, throw the ball around with whoever shows up and see who's got the moves. This is his 'hood now and like 'em or not, these are the guys who will be showing up. Might as well acknowledge that and let the jokers know that he'll walk on to their court and not be intimidated.
Posted by: burro on January 14, 2009 at 10:45 AM | PERMALINK
I agree with Obama's approach in general, but I wish he were a little more discerning in the particulars.
Will can be reasoned with, and Brooks is a non-ideologue. Dining with them makes all kinds of sense - in part as a reward for their both breaking ranks on Palin.
Kristol and Krauthammer on the other hand really hae no particular redeeming qualities (except, I suppose, that they write for the two most important papers in the country - a big exception to be sure). Neither can be persuaded of anything but their own rightness, neither has shown any tendency or ability toward open-mindedness, reflection or rationality. Kathleen Parker would have been a good choice - she's taken a hell of a lot of heat for her Palin articles; this would have been a nice salve. But there is just no sense wasting time on the likes of Kristol.
Posted by: zeitgeist on January 14, 2009 at 10:49 AM | PERMALINK
Might as well acknowledge that and let the jokers know that he'll walk on to their court and not be intimidated.
Yep. Now picture Junior having the stuff to break bread with liberal or even centrist columnists. The dude couldn't even handle a rally in a deep red state unless everyone there had been screened for adoring loyalty.
Posted by: shortstop on January 14, 2009 at 10:52 AM | PERMALINK
zeit, I don't disagree, but I rather doubt the guest list was left entirely up to Obama. I assume it was a "George Will is convening a dinner of conservative columnists; will you meet with us?" kind of thing...but maybe not. It would be interesting to find out.
Posted by: shortstop on January 14, 2009 at 10:54 AM | PERMALINK
If Limbaugh wasn't there, then who brought the coke and hookers?
Posted by: reino on January 14, 2009 at 10:55 AM | PERMALINK
Shorter Benen on this post and others: This would seem to suck, but really, it's yet another sign of Obama's brilliance.
Posted by: John Petty on January 14, 2009 at 11:13 AM | PERMALINK
Obama sucking up to the Village and Steve doesn't get it.
Hmm, I might have to Photoshop a picture of Obama burying his head up David Broder’s ass.
Posted by: SocraticGadfly on January 14, 2009 at 11:15 AM | PERMALINK
Progressive writers I would like Obama to dine with:
Steve
Hilzoy
Glenn Greenwald
Digby
Andrew Leonard
There are others (Maddow, Krugman, etc.) but they already have had an opportunity to interact directly with the President-Elect.
Posted by: bdop4 on January 14, 2009 at 11:15 AM | PERMALINK
I'd also include Kevin Drum on that progressive dinner list--that is if Obama actually wants to have a serious policy discussion, as opposed to a bunch of bs about how great Reagan was and how FDR sucked.
Posted by: Allan Snyder on January 14, 2009 at 11:45 AM | PERMALINK
Will can be reasoned with, and Brooks is a non-ideologue.
Only compared with Kristol and Krauthammer. By any other standard, not so much.
Posted by: Gregory on January 14, 2009 at 11:53 AM | PERMALINK
Of course, Obama could do a dinner with some of the people who didn't actually slander him to try to prevent his election, but imagine the recoil in the Village if he actually had a dinner with, say, Josh Marshall, Matt Yglesias, Duncan Black or (horrors) Markos Moulitsas.
"People say dirty words on those sites- and they actually occasionally criticize Republicans"
Never happen.
Posted by: MikeN on January 14, 2009 at 12:17 PM | PERMALINK
Remember when Obama said he'd sit down with enemies without preconditions? That, apparently, applies as much to Will, Kristol, et al. as it does Ahmadinejad and the like. And I can't see why it would be a good idea in the latter case and not in the former.
Posted by: cmdicely on January 14, 2009 at 12:21 PM | PERMALINK
i cannot believe that people think that this was a bad idea. Ask yourself this: who is more likely to be affected by the dinner? Is Obama more likely to yield to the power of their conservative arguments and adopt their (idiotic) positions because he ate with them and liked them personally? Or, are they more likely to reduce their most hateful rhetoric if they eat dinner with him and like him? Easy answer. The worst Obama gets is a break even, plus kudos for reaching out.
god, this was an easy call.
orange.
eric
Posted by: eric on January 14, 2009 at 12:34 PM | PERMALINK
This just makes it nearly impossible for these guys to demonize Obama in the future. Criticize, yes. But Obama invites criticism.
Obama probably wants to reinforce the concept of a civil discourse based upon facts, not ideology.
But Obama is good at controlling the parameters of debate, so going directly to the major fountains of this debate is a good step. He might even give them some tips.
Posted by: tomj on January 14, 2009 at 12:46 PM | PERMALINK
If Obama is willing to sit with Ahmedinejad and Lil Kim, pshhh, who the hell are Brooks et al.
Posted by: Akinola on January 14, 2009 at 1:14 PM | PERMALINK