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January 20, 2009

THOSE WHO ROOT AGAINST AMERICA.... It takes a special kind of American to hope for our failure.

Barack Obama has not yet taken office, and Rush Limbaugh is already rooting for his failure. On his radio show last Friday, Limbaugh said, "I disagree fervently with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, 'Well, I hope he succeeds.'"

Limbaugh told his listeners that he was asked by "a major American print publication" to offer a 400-word statement explaining his "hope for the Obama presidency." He responded:

"So I'm thinking of replying to the guy, 'Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails.' (interruption) What are you laughing at? See, here's the point. Everybody thinks it's outrageous to say. Look, even my staff, 'Oh, you can't do that.' Why not? Why is it any different, what's new, what is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails? Liberalism is our problem. Liberalism is what's gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here. Why do I want more of it? I don't care what the Drive-By story is. I would be honored if the Drive-By Media headlined me all day long: 'Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails.' Somebody's gotta say it."

No, I don't think Americans have to root against the country. If Obama fails, we fail. If his presidency falls short, there are negative consequences for all of us.

This is the opposite of patriotism.

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Someone has to ask it: Why does the Right hate America so much?

Posted by: Bernard HP Gilroy on January 20, 2009 at 11:02 AM | PERMALINK

I think that is taking it a bit too far. I can remember hoping that Bush fails, meaning fails in his political agenda.

Posted by: kp on January 20, 2009 at 11:03 AM | PERMALINK

Why does Rush Limbaugh hate America?

Posted by: Marko on January 20, 2009 at 11:05 AM | PERMALINK

Limbaugh is a trashbag full of wind.

Posted by: SteinL on January 20, 2009 at 11:06 AM | PERMALINK

What folks keep forgetting is that Limbaugh, like Ann Coulter, is an entertainer whose audience consists largely of bitter, cranky people, most of whom will lap this stuff up. He'll get a million dollars worth of free publicity out of these comments. He may be a repugnant hate-monger, but he ain't dumb.

Posted by: mikeypal on January 20, 2009 at 11:09 AM | PERMALINK

Liberalism is what's gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here.

That crazy liberal George W. Bush...
What planet is the traitor Limbaugh on again?

Posted by: ckelly on January 20, 2009 at 11:11 AM | PERMALINK

As usual, Limbaugh is one of the few with the courage to speak truth to power.

Posted by: Al on January 20, 2009 at 11:12 AM | PERMALINK

The Right doesn't hate America so much as they hate Americans.

Posted by: pdiddy on January 20, 2009 at 11:12 AM | PERMALINK

Limbaugh used to realize that he was just an entertainer and his political commentary, conservative as it was, showed a bit of humor. Now, he's just mean old man, older than Andy Rooney in his crotchets and foolishness. Maybe we should get him back on Vicodin for a while.

Posted by: freelunch on January 20, 2009 at 11:14 AM | PERMALINK

Four word response to Limbaugh: Senator Al Franken, fatso.

Posted by: pseudonymous in nc on January 20, 2009 at 11:14 AM | PERMALINK

Al, did you miss the part where Limbaugh pandered to power for the last eight years?

Posted by: freelunch on January 20, 2009 at 11:15 AM | PERMALINK

Keep in mind this piece of shit just dined at the White House by special invitation of George W Bush.

What he really means is that he hopes Obama fails because if not, republicans are in a world of hurt for generations to come.

Posted by: palinoscopy on January 20, 2009 at 11:20 AM | PERMALINK

I guess it's not entirely clear to me what Limbaugh is wishing for.

If he wishes that Obama is unsuccessful in implementing his allegedly liberal agenda, then I guess that's fair. He's entitled to believe that implementing a liberal agenda would be harmful to the country.

But the way he words it makes it seem as if he knows that the liberal agenda (as he sees it) will be implemented (which makes sense, given Obama's popularity rating and the numbers in Congress), but he wants to see it fail. That's the clearest possible definition of putting ideology ahead of country.

I'd like someone to ask Limbaugh a simple question: Why? Why would you want to see Obama's agenda fail to help the country?

Believing that Obama has the wrong solutions for American is fine. Believing that following Obama will cause our country to be worse off in 2012 than it is now - totally legitimate. But hoping for our country to be worse off is ridiculous.

Posted by: TG Chicago on January 20, 2009 at 11:20 AM | PERMALINK

Freelunch

Al's a parody of some sort. Nobody could possible be that stupid!

Re. Limbaugh - nothing new here. He is the TRUE voice of today's Republican party. At least he has the guts to say what's in his heart and mind out loud.

The rest are at the gun store stocking up for the coming of the liberal hoards. You'll find them for the next for years hiding under their beds clutching a gun.

Posted by: Mark-NC on January 20, 2009 at 11:22 AM | PERMALINK

By the way, this might be a good time to start fishing up quotes from conservative pundits over the past 8 years about how it's unpatriotic to go against the Commander-in-Chief during a time of war and all that malarky.

Let's post all those quotes now so that the right wing knows they're on hypocrisy watch.

Posted by: TG Chicago on January 20, 2009 at 11:32 AM | PERMALINK

Let's all remember how Rush got his big break - using a vacuum cleaner to abort his adversaries off air. Once a fascist always a fascist!

Rush is not needed today, nor will he be tomorrow. His worth, dubious as it was, is now spent dry. Go home Rush and leave us to remake our society you so willingly trashed! -Kevo

Posted by: kevo on January 20, 2009 at 11:33 AM | PERMALINK

Let this be a lesson to you, kids: Snorting hillbilly heroin and popping Viagra makes you stupid and mean.

Posted by: gradysu on January 20, 2009 at 11:34 AM | PERMALINK

Limbaugh is one of the few with the courage to speak truth to power.

Speaking power to truth is more his style

Posted by: rea on January 20, 2009 at 11:37 AM | PERMALINK

When Bush 43 took over, I wanted him to succeed as head of state, even though I didn't agree with much of what he stood for and I had my doubts about the way he had gained office. (Was it stolen from the Democrats? Probably -- however, if the Florida state Democratic party, then run by a bunch of old-line southern crackers, had been more aggressive in getting out the black vote on Nov. 7, Gore would have won the state and all of this would have been moot.) I had hope that perhaps events would force Bush to change and moderate himself a bit; of course, things went the other way.

I would hope most genuine conservatives, not Limbaugh blowhards, would feel today the way I felt on Jan. 20, 2001.

Posted by: Vincent on January 20, 2009 at 11:40 AM | PERMALINK

I think mikeypal's right on.
Limbaugh is first and foremost an entertainer but there's a faction out there who loves to breathe in this sewer gas and take it seriously; nothing but hate for anything other than a right wing win-at-all-costs position.
Today, they're a small minority and they can sit in their corners and stew and whine.
It's a great day for the vast majority of Americans and they know it, and they can't stand it.

Posted by: PS on January 20, 2009 at 11:41 AM | PERMALINK

If they can't rule, no one should rule. Better to sit in the ruins of a once-great Republic than to see it governed by others.

Phthonocracy -- rule by spite.

Posted by: Davis X. Machina on January 20, 2009 at 11:42 AM | PERMALINK

If the way to succeed is by adopting his lamebrain discredited ideas and he did so, would Limbaugh STILL be upset?

He's hoping for failure because Obama (for whatever diseased reason) wasn't his choice.

I've been under the impression he felt liberalism would fail,. Not that he wanted liberalism to fail. If massive tax cuts for the rich led the entire country to prosperity, I'd be happy to wish conservatives the best.

Is being wrong so awful that you'd let the world suffer?

That' sit in a nutshell, isn't it. Better to be right than happy.

It's not even stupid, it's insane.

Posted by: toowearyforoutrage on January 20, 2009 at 11:54 AM | PERMALINK

This is what baffles me about Limbaugh. What possible credentials could he (even delusionally) be thought to possess? What possible basis is there for anyone listening to anything he says? He has no expertise, no education, no experience, no anything.

The phrase "Limbaugh says" is precisely no different than the phrase "some random dumbass says". Why this isn't crystal clear to everyone, especially his cult followers, never ceases to amaze me.

Posted by: DH Walker on January 20, 2009 at 11:54 AM | PERMALINK

It strikes me as hypocritical that most on this blog attack a few conservatives for doing what many liberals ave done over the past eight years. Most hoped Bush failed some didn't even give him the respect of acknowleging him as President. I have read on here people say the pretend to be canadian when the travel abroad so please enjoy the peaceful transition of power that ALWAYS takes place in this great country.

Posted by: Johnnj on January 20, 2009 at 11:58 AM | PERMALINK

And Limbaugh's punishment shall be that Obama will not fail . . .

Posted by: Outis on January 20, 2009 at 11:58 AM | PERMALINK

Sure, liberalism is what got us here, after 8 years of the neocons being in charge. Limbaugh=idiot

Posted by: Limbaugh is an idiot on January 20, 2009 at 11:59 AM | PERMALINK

He is just working hard to make that $400 million.

He should be ignored, trivialized, dismissed (or fed a very high fat high caloric diet and encouraged to yell and blather profusely).

Why this isn't crystal clear to everyone, especially his cult followers, never ceases to amaze me.Posted by: DH Walker on January 20, 2009 at 11:54 AM | PERMALINK

It is the sad combination of fear and ignorance.

Posted by: e henry thripshaw on January 20, 2009 at 12:22 PM | PERMALINK

Limbaugh's talent is knowing what his audience wants to hear before they think of it themselves. This isn't surprising. Given a choice between great success for themselves or great catastrophes for liberals, most of Limbaugh's listeners would choose the latter just to be spiteful.

"Liberalism is what's gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here."

He kept predicting disaster that never came in the '90s, so it also isn't surprising that he blames the disaster which finally arrived in the next decade on a president who had nothing to do with it. This is clearly all Clinton's fault.

Posted by: Shalimar on January 20, 2009 at 12:25 PM | PERMALINK

Heh Johnnj there's an immense difference between not liking a politician and his or her policies and hoping that they fail. I knew rightwingers were dumb but the full extent of their stupidity is staggering.

Posted by: Gandalf on January 20, 2009 at 12:26 PM | PERMALINK

To show that not all the right is rooting against Obama, here is a far saner take on the issue:

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/20/good-luck-mr-president/

Posted by: TG Chicago on January 20, 2009 at 12:29 PM | PERMALINK

Gandalf saying what has gone on over the past eight years was not liking a politician is comical. People hoped Bush failed they rejoiced in things going wrong the hoped for failure in iraq so please take off your blinders.

Posted by: johnnj on January 20, 2009 at 12:32 PM | PERMALINK

I'm too lazy to do this, but I bet if someone would Google what Limbaugh was saying 8 years ago, he was excoriating straw man liberals for hoping that Bush would fail.

And yes, Limbaugh is not one to be taken seriously, but rather an entertainer to the mentally ill who think like Dick Cheney does.

Posted by: David Bailey on January 20, 2009 at 12:37 PM | PERMALINK

It isn't that I was hoping for W to fail; rather, I expected his policies to fail. Mostly I was hoping he wouldn't hurt the country too much while he failed.

Posted by: Scott H on January 20, 2009 at 12:38 PM | PERMALINK

Johnnj aka pretzel -

Yes, we absolutely wanted failure in Iraq so that thousands of people would die? This invasion and occupation were blatantly stupid from day one. To lose one more life to Bush/Cheney's stupidity is intolerable. We didn't want failure - we wanted sane foreign policy.

Posted by: jen f on January 20, 2009 at 12:39 PM | PERMALINK

There is a large group of middle class Americans that were ignorant enough to think GW was doing something besides making a lot of money for Dick Cheney's cronies. He panders to their ignorance.

Posted by: SteveA on January 20, 2009 at 12:43 PM | PERMALINK

JohnnJ: So, you can't tell the difference between hoping Bush would fail, and opposing his policies because we knew they'd fail?

That's not us being hypocritical. That's you being simpleminded.

Posted by: DH Walker on January 20, 2009 at 12:44 PM | PERMALINK

"Al's a parody of some sort. Nobody could possible be that stupid!"

The original Al very nearly was. He used to post here frequently a few years ago. His posts were so completely insane that a cottage industry developed in trolling him. The trolls were so difficult to distinguish from the real Al that he eventually got disgusted and moved on.

Posted by: PaulB on January 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM | PERMALINK

Shorter johnnj: Don't bother me with facts, my beliefs are my reality!

Posted by: BuzzMon on January 20, 2009 at 12:48 PM | PERMALINK

Well excuse my simple mind for calling it as I see it.

Posted by: johnnj on January 20, 2009 at 12:49 PM | PERMALINK

Limbaugh may be anathema to everything I believe in, but I refuse to be part of a new group that decides to call another American unpatriotic. We are better than that, no?

Posted by: Boliver on January 20, 2009 at 12:50 PM | PERMALINK

Rush, nothing. Read Joseph Farah at WND:

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=86469

Posted by: SocraticGadfly on January 20, 2009 at 12:52 PM | PERMALINK

JohnnJ: Well excuse my simple mind for calling it as I see it.

Meaning, you don't care how wrong you are?

Posted by: DH Walker on January 20, 2009 at 12:52 PM | PERMALINK

Q: What's the difference between Rush Limbaugh and the Hindenberg?

A: One is a flaming Nazi gasbag, the other was a dirigible.

Posted by: Fides on January 20, 2009 at 12:54 PM | PERMALINK

Why does Rush Limbaugh hate America?

Rush doesn't "hate" America. He just caters to Americans that feed on his negativity. He cashes in on a cult of personality - and a lot of cash. Hating on liberals will get you far in this country.

I think when it comes down to it, Rush doesn't really care about America. Rush just likes to hear himself talk.

Posted by: Mick on January 20, 2009 at 12:54 PM | PERMALINK

Driving around yesterday evening, on my way out to a restaurant, I tuned into a local conservative radio station -- just out of curiosity. First word I heard, on a program called "The Drive-Time Happy Hour," was the word "assassination." Apparently the two hosts were talking about some Burmese seer who was predicting some assassination attempts. Then they changed the subject, asking "progressives" who might be listening to call in and explain why they loved Hamas.

Later on, I tuned in again and caught a few minutes of Michael Savage. He was mocking scientists who think that global warming is occurring. Then he switched to the possibility that Obama's plans to create 3 million new jobs would produce some kind of oppressive "green shirt" army which would come into our homes and check to see that we are not using too much electricity.

Posted by: CMcC on January 20, 2009 at 12:56 PM | PERMALINK

This is the opposite of patriotism.

and limbaugh is the opposite of human being, so what else would you expect from him?
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Posted by: pluege on January 20, 2009 at 1:08 PM | PERMALINK

Of course Limbaugh, and the rancid plutocrats on whose behalf he speaks, hope Obama fails. Just as with FDR, Democratic success at enacting sensible, popular and effective social programs is likely to doom movement conservatism and the Republican Party. After all, they can't count on another post-Civil Rights influx of racist Southern whites. That ship has sailed.

Remember, even Bush at the height of his popularity didn't dare explicitly propose doing away with Social Security -- you know, that popular program McCain called a "disgrace" -- and couldn't even bamboozle his way to doing it on the sly. Now, just the passage vitally needed health care reform is sure to be one of the final nails in their coffin, but they truly are standing athwart the tide now.

Posted by: Gregory on January 20, 2009 at 1:17 PM | PERMALINK

Rush Limbaugh: The Excrement in Narrowcasting Nutwork. He didn't just rely on an anal cyst to dodge the draft, he is one. Pathetic, scummy little blowhardy wretch and his fans are the toxic sludge of the American polity.

Posted by: Neil B ☼ on January 20, 2009 at 1:19 PM | PERMALINK

Yah why does Rush Hate America? Because it's no longer all about him, Ann, Sean and others- we're taking the country back. As of now, and we're tired of the Lazy-Boy Patriots. That barcalounger is getting fit with an ejector button!


Posted by: HellYesWeDid on January 20, 2009 at 1:27 PM | PERMALINK

Limbaugh should be invited as a contestant on that show, "The Biggest Loser." His ideas, much like his body mass index (BMI), put him well into the red range. His drug smuggling should have put him in jail.

It is no longer respectable to be associated with the GOP's failed ideology. Limbaugh is the GOP's drum major for irrelevancy.

Posted by: pj in jesusland on January 20, 2009 at 1:28 PM | PERMALINK

There will always be Limbaughs. I'm reminded of a saying: "The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on." It's so refreshing to know that blowhards like him are going to be on the sidelines, with nothing constructive to contribute. He no longer has the ear of anyone who matters, and he knows it.

Posted by: wally on January 20, 2009 at 1:29 PM | PERMALINK

Gandalf saying what has gone on over the past eight years was not liking a politician is comical. People hoped Bush failed they rejoiced in things going wrong the hoped for failure in iraq so please take off your blinders.
Posted by: johnnj

Literate trolls, please.

(I know, "literate trolls" = oxymoron.)

Posted by: Screamin' Demon on January 20, 2009 at 1:31 PM | PERMALINK

After their complete rout in the elections of 2010, the scum like Limbaugh and his fatassed supporters will all be back under their rocks for the rest of their dead-end lives and watching them realize their increasing irrelevance over the next two years is going to be wonderful to see.

Rush Limbaugh is just a drug-addled, viagra-crazed pedophile - who gives a rat's ass about that worthless piece of shit?

Posted by: TCinLA on January 20, 2009 at 1:38 PM | PERMALINK

Rush needs to be more bombastic in order to avoid total irrelevancy. Expect his rhetoric to become even more bitter and delusional.

Posted by: JWK on January 20, 2009 at 1:40 PM | PERMALINK

That has a nice ring to it -- Limbaugh doesn't matter any more. He'll have to say outrageous things to try and keep his name in the news, like Ann Coulter. But he's just another conservative dead-ender.

Adios.

Posted by: pj in jesusland on January 20, 2009 at 1:44 PM | PERMALINK

Anyone who says liberals wanted W to fail is lying, delusional, and/or moronically stupid (most likely all three).
Because -- as is obvious to anyone with a 3-digit IQ and the slightest hint of intellectual integrity -- when our government fails we all suffer... And, unlike the Christofascists, we don't want to suffer. And, unlike the Financial Fascists, we don't profit off anyone else's suffering.
As has been eloquently demonstrated above, we feared the failures that were so obvious even as the ground was being laid for them. We knew letting ObL escape was a mistake for which we (and much of the rest of the world) would pay a price. We knew leaving the work of rebuilding Afghanistan for the destruction of Iraq was a mistake -- though it took the special genius of Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld, to screw it up so badly that it would create anti-American mass-murderers faster than we could ever capture or kill them.
We knew that failing to follow our own laws and traditions in capturing and trying the slaughterers of innocent people would be counterproductive -- though again, even the most cynical of leftists was shocked when the highest levels of W's administration were shown to have set the conditions at Abu G'hraib and Guantanamo to the point that they became al Qaeda's best recruiting tool.
We knew that the Republican tax cuts weren't going to create the "ten million jobs" W promised -- they'd just enrich the already-wealthy (including of course Mr Limbaugh) even further (as they have). We knew (and many of us said at the time) that repealing the Glass-Steagall Act, and allowing CDOs and MBSs to remain unregulated (for both of which we have Phil Gramm and the then-Republican Congress to thank), was opening us up to significant financial risk. It was -- and is -- the rich and powerful who reaped the benefits of the gaming of the system that resulted. But it's all of us who are paying the price, and will continue to do so for at least a generation. We're not the ones who asked for that.
But it is, of course, very clear just why Mr Limbaugh wants Obama -- and all of us -- to fail (and of course he's not alone in wanting this, just in voicing it so strongly): because it would prove unequivocally (as if it hadn't already been) what we already know: that everything that the Republicans have stood for over the last century is wrong. EVERYTHING.

Posted by: smartalek on January 20, 2009 at 1:50 PM | PERMALINK

Rush makes his living selling ads on radio. he does so by providing themes and narratives to people who need constant reinforcement of themselves and their ridgid paranoid views of the world. He needs polarization, enemies, liberals. Its the same sort of good vs evil, black, white, us vs them story line that appeals to at least perhaps 20% of the country or less. Limbaugh is in his own way is just energizing his base. With 75% of those polled supporting Barack that threatens Limbaughs market share. As painful as it may be its important to listen to the callers that frequent rightwing radio. They are certainly more certifiable than Rush. He just uses them to sell advertisement.
I would love to hear what Ann Coulter or someone like Michael Savage have to say about Barack although it's pretty easy to guess.

Mickster

Posted by: mickster on January 20, 2009 at 1:56 PM | PERMALINK

Over a million people wittnessing the inauguration, billions watching live all over the world...who cares what he and his pettly little cottage-industry of bitterness and rancor think. He's a dinosaur sinking in a tar pit of irrelevancy.

Posted by: Saint Zak on January 20, 2009 at 2:02 PM | PERMALINK

I'm sorry. Who is Rush Limbaugh?
And why are you giving him any air [web] time?

You know, if you stop watching Fox, they'll blow away.
I've been doing my part for several years now.
How about joining in?

Posted by: bushwahd on January 20, 2009 at 2:04 PM | PERMALINK

In honor of the occasion, I submit the following:

I hereby find Rush Limbaugh to be an enemy of my country -- and all that that implies.

You figure it out, kiddies. Just know that I do not treat my country's enemies kindly....

Posted by: Steve W. on January 20, 2009 at 2:21 PM | PERMALINK

I think Limbaugh was very clumsy in his statement. Many of us who think Obama is unprepared are still hoping that his term turns out alright for the country. Nobody would be happier than me to see all my worries dispelled in 2012. However:

By the way, this might be a good time to start fishing up quotes from conservative pundits over the past 8 years about how it's unpatriotic to go against the Commander-in-Chief during a time of war and all that malarky.

Let's post all those quotes now so that the right wing knows they're on hypocrisy watch.

Posted by: TG Chicago

I hope you are also going to remember all the actions taken by the left to inhibit Bush's attempts to defend the country, specifically the NY Times publication of national defense secrets. That last time a newspaper behaved so irresponsibly in war time it was the Chicago Tribune after the battle of Midway.

I would also include Harry Reid declaring the war in Iraq lost.

If you are going to keep score, and I think that's fair, keep all the scores.

Posted by: Mike K on January 20, 2009 at 3:03 PM | PERMALINK

specifically the NY Times publication of national defense secrets.

Well, Mike K, if we're going to keep score, you lose points for equating revelations of Bush's systematic lawbreaking with "national defense secrets."

Shame on you.

Posted by: Gregory on January 20, 2009 at 3:20 PM | PERMALINK

I am reading comments on various blogs about Rush Limbaugh's comments concerning the hopes of an Obama administration. I don't personally care for Limbaugh's style, but the backlash of comments to his position I find even more repulsive. A few liberal commentators are throwing the gay card out there by suggesting Limbaugh philandered with some Latin American boys.These comments astonish me consdidering the people making these statements voted for the man who proclaims equal rights for all including those who are "black gay, etc.etc) If it is true Limbaugh dallies with guys of the same sex, I guess under the principles laid out by Obama than these commenters are off base and should be held accountable for a hate crime. I don't necessarily believe all this but the point is the hypocrisy begins. Other commenters have called Limbaugh "pus gut" and such.This is a divided country and not because of either Obama or Bush, but because people voice their prejudices and try to pass it off as political commentary. I'm just as guilty as the next guy. My prejudice comes though from believing that our country's ills will not be solved by the adulation of certain charismatic men, but our country will change when we again to look for solutions by revering our God. That may sound simplistic, but it is historically correct to state that all nations that have put into power a man based on euphoria have eventually fallen. Hopefully that is not true with Obama, but we'll see. Yeah, Limbaugh is kind of a unsavory character, but democracy is based partly on dissent. Calling for Limbaugh's head to me is akin to calling for the head of democracy. I don't make it a habit of listening to him but his viewpoint is necessary in maintaining a balance. That is what democracy, life, and liberty is all about.

Posted by: dennis on January 20, 2009 at 3:23 PM | PERMALINK

A few liberal commentators are throwing the gay card out there by suggesting Limbaugh philandered with some Latin American boys...If it is true Limbaugh dallies with guys of the same sex, I guess under the principles laid out by Obama than these commenters are off base and should be held accountable for a hate crime.

The suggestion is not so much that Limbaugh may have been intimate with "guys of the same sex," but that, but jetting off to (if memory serves me right) Honduras -- a country sadly reputed for its sex trade -- with a suitcase of Viagra, that Limbaugh was likely to have patronized underaged so-called "sex workers," regardless of gender.

Which is, of course, along with his Oxycontin habit, and example of Limbaugh's loudmouthed hypocracy and sense of privileged, Plutocratic entitlement.

Limbaugh is a liar. Serial dishonesty such as his has no place of respect in small-d democratic discourse, and is hardly a voice of "dissent."

My prejudice comes though from believing that our country's ills will not be solved by the adulation of certain charismatic men, but our country will change when we again to look for solutions by revering our God.

"Our" God? Would that be Allah, YHWH, Jesus, Buddah, Vishnu, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or None of the Above?

Anyway, our Fonders would disagree with you. The authority of our government derives from men, not God, and we've done pretty well at solving our country's ills when not distracted by rabid hatemongers with nationally broadcast soapboxes like Limbaugh.

Posted by: Gregory on January 20, 2009 at 3:38 PM | PERMALINK

RUSH doesnt hate AMERICA, people he HATES liberalism,of course you twisted RUSH haters always respond to the miss quotes that are written daily by your whack newscasters, RUSH hopes obama's liberal policies will fail because these policies are backassward and have been proven to fail throughout history. STILL WAITING ON THAT obama check i see. dont worry he will get it back in taxes,stupid people

Posted by: don on January 20, 2009 at 3:41 PM | PERMALINK


Why are we giving this pile of shit Limbaugh more coverage? He's old hat. Toast. Part of the Bush-era heritage of division. He fits the perfect description of a Republican -- "I got mine and frig the rest of you."

Boycott the asshole and move on.

Posted by: dejah thoris on January 20, 2009 at 3:42 PM | PERMALINK


Don -- blow me! Go back to your rock and don't come out til you learn how to behave like an adult instead of an empty-headed ditto.

Posted by: dejah on January 20, 2009 at 3:43 PM | PERMALINK

specifically the NY Times publication of national defense secrets.

Well, Mike K, if we're going to keep score, you lose points for equating revelations of Bush's systematic lawbreaking with "national defense secrets."

Shame on you.
Posted by: Gregory

So, there is nothing new. When your guy does it it is OK. I think I got it. Hypocrisy is still in fashion.

Posted by: Mike K on January 20, 2009 at 4:01 PM | PERMALINK

of course you twisted RUSH haters always respond to the miss quotes that are written daily by your whack newscasters

Don, what about the quotation from Rush's own show:

I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails.'

...was misquoted? Thanks in advance.

obama's liberal policies will fail because these policies are backassward and have been proven to fail throughout history.

Yeah, we studied about Obama's liberal policies leading to the decline and fall of the Roman Empire in school. Ohh, wait...

Posted by: Gregory on January 20, 2009 at 4:03 PM | PERMALINK

So, there is nothing new. When your guy does it it is OK. I think I got it. Hypocrisy is still in fashion.

Mike K, Bush committed a felony with each wiretap when he broke the FISA law, which he has admitted -- hell, brags about! -- doing. Not to mention torture.

The law does not recognize an excuse for "attempts to defend the country."

What felony "our guy" commit that compares to the shame Bush has heaped on the White House and this nation?

Shame on you for excusing Bush's lawlessness.

Posted by: Gregory on January 20, 2009 at 4:09 PM | PERMALINK

DeJah you tell someone to blow you then tell them to act like an adult? maybe you should practice what you preach.

Posted by: johnnj on January 20, 2009 at 4:17 PM | PERMALINK

Don: Here's something that morons like you and Rush don't seem to get: if "liberalism" is so wrong, why do you have to hope that it fails?

How can you not see that your position makes no freaking sense?

Posted by: DH Walker on January 20, 2009 at 4:49 PM | PERMALINK

Mike K: When your guy does it it is OK.

Examples? Put up, or STFU, Mike.

I, for one, absolutely can't wait to hear about all the people Obama has tortured.

Posted by: DH Walker on January 20, 2009 at 4:58 PM | PERMALINK

I could care less about Obama or Bush. The only person I need to fail or succeed is me. Bush failed yet I prospered in the last 8 years. Obama may succeed in the next 8(?) years yet I may fail. This cult of personality is quite frightening. They are just two men. They have little impact on my life.

Posted by: 1SG on January 20, 2009 at 5:54 PM | PERMALINK

1SG: They have little impact on my life.

And the impact they have on other people, you could give a damn about?

Posted by: DH Walker on January 20, 2009 at 6:08 PM | PERMALINK

So, there is nothing new. When your guy does it it is OK. I think I got it. Hypocrisy is still in fashion.

Mike K, Bush committed a felony with each wiretap when he broke the FISA law, which he has admitted -- hell, brags about! -- doing. Not to mention torture.

Bush Derangement Syndrome lives ! You just can't grow up and accept that people have different opinions from you and are still making reasonable choices in policies. When Reagan worked to help the Contras, Democrats tried to block him by making policy differences into crimes. Now you are doing it again. It's always Democrats who try to undermine the country by leaking secrets they disagree with. In fact, all those felonies are in your mind, not in the law. Watch what Obama does in the next couple of years. He is already backtracking on FISA and Guantanamo.

He seems much more of an adult than many of his followers. That is why conservatives have been pleasantly surprised. He may be smart enough to seek advice from adults instead of the juveniles who carry on rants like yours.

We will see. The whole FISA court system was an attempt by Congress to limit presidential power when Carter was president. As usual, he wimped out. Now, we have cell phones that were not even contemplated then. FISA is outdated if it was ever anything but Congressional over reach.

The best defense of civil liberties is a successful prevention of a major attack. Most of you people don't even think there is a war. Today, only 35% of Democrats support the Afghanistan campaign. Obama needs better support than that and he may seek it on the right.

Posted by: Mike K on January 20, 2009 at 7:13 PM | PERMALINK

Mike K:

Don't use the term "Bush Derangement Syndrome". You're bound to give people the impression that you don't think for yourself.

Posted by: DH Walker on January 20, 2009 at 7:52 PM | PERMALINK

"The best defense of civil liberties is a successful prevention of a major attack."

No, the best defense of civil liberties is a defense of civil liberties. And the Harry Reid example is absurd, he said that "the Iraq War is lost," not that he "hopes we will lose the Iraq War" (which actually WOULD be an equivalent to Rush's "I hope he fails" line). You actually don't understand the difference between those two things?

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Posted by: Steve Paradis on January 20, 2009 at 10:26 PM | PERMALINK

Smartalek:

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Al, Don and johnnj:

You can always tell a deranged neocon by their incredible need to go to a blog where people don't think like they do and try to "convert" them through twisted quotes and logic or trying to shame them somehow.

I for one, never post on a "conservative" blog because I understand that there isn't a chance in hell that any FACT or argument I can give will change their minds. I recognize that, although I think they are horribly misguided, they have a right to their opinions. Maybe you should consider giving us the same courtesy and move along.

Posted by: Always Hopeful on January 20, 2009 at 11:18 PM | PERMALINK

But that's not what he said. Goodness, if you want to misquote someone, you shouldn't print his words right next to your misquotation.

Posted by: Luther on January 21, 2009 at 1:13 AM | PERMALINK

Limbaugh said what many feel. It's naive not to acknowledge that the failure of opposing philosophies is essential to True Believers (of whatever stripe). Their existence depends on the failure of every path except theirs. They will work tirelessly and without scruple to see that failure occurs - and then they will happily blame the idea they fought, rather than their own sabotage.

Posted by: Gwen on January 21, 2009 at 1:34 AM | PERMALINK

Bush Derangement Syndrome lives ! You just can't grow up and accept that people have different opinions from you and are still making reasonable choices in policies.

Bullshit, Mike K. This isn't a matter of differing opinions and certainly not "reasonable choices in policies." The FISA law made it a felony to wiretap without a warrant every time you do it. There's no "national security" escape clause.

The language of the law is quite explicit, and it's simply a lie to say that the felonies are imaginary as opposed to the letter of the law. That's why they changed the law to allow the wiretaps, you dolt. Bush broke the law, period, full stop. Of course you're free to give him a free pass for committing multiple felonies, but then you have no standing to throw stones for partisanship.

Same with torture. Bush's Administration broke the clear letter of the law, authorizing torture techniques for which we prosecuted other war criminals in the past.

This is not a matter of good faith political differences, Mike, it's a matter of Bush violating the clear letter of the law, period, full stop. Shame on you for giving him a free pass.

Posted by: Gregory on January 21, 2009 at 7:46 AM | PERMALINK


It's pretty obvious that liberalism fails economically and militarily. Part of it succeeds socially, but we are well past that part (it's called 'classical liberalism' now and it's why Republicans are always the ones who pass civil rights legislation). It fails every time it is tried, like socialism, because it is socialism. Just prettied up a bit.

I hope for Obama to fail to implement his policies, or to end up implementing non-socialist policies that stimulate the free market instead of the government. I hope the best for America.

I can hope all I want for the sun to rise in the west and it would be nice if it happened, but hoping for a socialist policy to work in anything past the short term is foolish.

Posted by: luagha on January 21, 2009 at 3:00 PM | PERMALINK

It's pretty obvious that liberalism fails economically and militarily.

No, in fact the evidence shows just the opposite to be true. The stock market has performed wildly better under Democrats; liberal policies pulled this country out of the Great Depression and two liberal presidents help wage and win WWII. And and the greatest prosperity this nation has ever seen was under liberal Bill Clinton.

The rest of your false equivalency tripe isn't even worth bothering with. I'm curious, were you oxygen-starved at birth or is there a more recent trauma that explains your post?

Posted by: trex on January 21, 2009 at 3:23 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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