January 22, 2009
CLOSING GITMO, RESTORING THE RULE OF LAW.... Two weeks ago, Barack Obama promised, "We are going to close Guantanamo and we are going to make sure that the procedures we set up are ones that abide by our constitution. That is not only the right thing to do but it actually has to be part of our broader national security strategy because we will send a message to the world that we are serious about our values."
But questions remained. How soon would the president keep his promise? How quickly would he shut down the notorious detention facility? What about the secret prisons? We got our answers this morning.
President Obama signed executive orders Thursday directing the Central Intelligence Agency to shut what remains of its network of secret prisons and ordering the closing of the Guantanamo detention camp within a year, government officials said.
The orders, which are the first steps in undoing detention policies of former President George W. Bush, rewrite American rules for the detention of terrorism suspects. They require an immediate review of the 245 detainees still held at the naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to determine if they should be transferred, released or prosecuted.
And the orders bring to an end a Central Intelligence Agency program that kept terrorism suspects in secret custody for months or years, a practice that has brought fierce criticism from foreign governments and human rights activists. They will also prohibit the C.I.A. from using coercive interrogation methods, requiring the agency to follow the same rules used by the military in interrogating terrorism suspects, government officials said.
"We are not -- as I said in the inauguration -- going to continue with a false choice between our safety and our ideals," the president said this morning. He added, "The message we are sending around the world is that the US intends to prosecute the ongoing struggle against violence and terrorism and we are going to do so vigilantly, we are going to do so effectively, and we are going to do so in a manner that is consistent with our values and our ideals ... We intend to win this fight, and we intend to win it on our terms."
D-Day joked, "Obama is really setting a bad precedent of keeping campaign promises and abiding by the rule of law. It's like the oath of office reboot, setting the horrible precedent of acknowledging mistakes and seeking to rectify them. Who does this guy think he is?"
Like Hilzoy, I was especially struck by the notion of winning the fight "on our terms." Not only is this the polar opposite of the ends-justify-the-means attitude that's undermined our national security strategy for far too long, it also means we're no longer going to fight on our enemies' terms:
Al Qaeda could never have destroyed our commitment to liberty, human rights, and the rule of law by itself. It could only hope that we would respond unthinkingly and do the dirty work ourselves. We obliged them, and in so doing did a lot more damage to ourselves than al Qaeda could ever have dreamed of doing.
It's wonderful to see that that has changed: that we have an administration that will not sacrifice the ideals America always ought to stand for, and will not allow our adversaries to dictate the terms and the terrain on which we will oppose them.
I could get used to this.
—Steve Benen 12:40 PM
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"I could get used to this."
Me, too. What a relief!
Posted by: jeri on January 22, 2009 at 12:50 PM | PERMALINK
Thank you President Obama!
This is what I hoped for when I supported his campaign. Are we finally returning to sanity in this country?
Posted by: shoeflyn on January 22, 2009 at 12:55 PM | PERMALINK
I'm not quite as optimistic. Obama did say we would only use interrogation techniques allowed for in the Army Manual. But the manual was revised in 2005 to include 10 classified pages on interrogation. Depending on what is now allowed, the process of using various techniques described as torture last week by military commissions authority, Susan Crawford, could still be allowed.
Posted by: Danp on January 22, 2009 at 1:00 PM | PERMALINK
GET used to it, because barring tragedy or the Republicans becoming saner than seems possible, you'll have eight years of it.
And so far I see no reason to doubt that he is someone who 'means what he says and does what he means' as unusual as that is for a politician.
We won't agree with everything. Some of his positions may horrify us -- like his position in favor of extending the death penalty when it should be abolished totally.
Some may simply annoy us. I don't think the President of the United States should accept the honorary Presidency of an organization that discriminates in it's charter - the Boy Scouts -- even if many local organizations ignore this -- and that has successfully gone to court to protect this right.
And he may call some 'close ones' in ways we don't like.
But overall he and we are moving strongly in the right direction. Some of us may never learn that 'the perfect is the enemy of the good' but hopefully many of us will and enjoy the hope that seems totally justified so far.
Posted by: Prup (aka Jim Benton) on January 22, 2009 at 1:03 PM | PERMALINK
Props to Prup for getting it exactly right.
Posted by: Chocolate Thunder on January 22, 2009 at 1:04 PM | PERMALINK
Aaaargh. "It's" for "its." Having just watched a Karen Williams routine in which she said how much she hated that, and threatening to shoot any one who did it -- and agreeing with her -- I miss one of my own.
The 18 lb cat draped over my typing arm is not a sufficient excuse.
Posted by: Prup (aka Jim Benton) on January 22, 2009 at 1:06 PM | PERMALINK
Props to Prup for getting it exactly right.
Seconded. :)
Posted by: DH Walker on January 22, 2009 at 1:09 PM | PERMALINK
>>Al Qaeda... could only hope that we would respond unthinkingly and do the dirty work ourselves.
Well, duh. It's amazing that the Bush Administration was so blinded by righteousness that they didn't realize they were reacting EXACTLY like Bin Laden wanted.
What an incompetent tool. I wish I were there in Washington on Tuesday to cheer his leaving.
Posted by: JC on January 22, 2009 at 1:16 PM | PERMALINK
He's going to keep @10% of the hard left and hard right perpetually pissed-off, but I hope he keeps moving forward this boldly. We certainly need it.
Posted by: Cazart on January 22, 2009 at 1:17 PM | PERMALINK
It's nice not to be an international pariah anymore.
Posted by: Allan Snyder on January 22, 2009 at 1:21 PM | PERMALINK
Closing Gitmo and banning torture. Are these moves "liberal" or "centrist"? Inquiring minds....
Posted by: Karinthy on January 22, 2009 at 1:24 PM | PERMALINK
Well, duh. It's amazing that the Bush Administration was so blinded by righteousness that they didn't realize they were reacting EXACTLY like Bin Laden wanted.
Oh, I think the administration realized all right. The pity is that the voting public was too stupid to figure it out en masse in 2004. Surely bin Laden putting out a video right before the election was enough to prompt thoughtful people to think about their motives, but alas, thoughtful people don't decide elections.
Posted by: Equal Opportunity Cynic on January 22, 2009 at 1:24 PM | PERMALINK
I could get used to this.
But beware of getting too used to this. Obama is using executive power to do a lot of the right things to reverse the wrong things done previously, but that doesn't mean that something more concrete doesn't need to be done to keep future presidents from repeating the wrong things done previously.
Part of that is accountability for things that were outside the law.
Part of that is putting some of what Obama is doing in executive orders into law, so that a subsequent president can't cut the opposite direction as easily as Obama moved in the right direction.
Posted by: cmdicely on January 22, 2009 at 1:26 PM | PERMALINK
"It's amazing that the Bush Administration was so blinded by righteousness that they didn't realize they were reacting EXACTLY like Bin Laden wanted." -JC
You think Bush/Repubs gave a damn what al Qaeda wanted? Their actions just gave them cover for power-grabs and treasury-raiding. Nothing else mattered.
And all the sheeple went, "Ba-ah!"
Posted by: Marko on January 22, 2009 at 1:27 PM | PERMALINK
Some of us may never learn that 'the perfect is the enemy of the good'... -Prup
Whistles and slowly backs out of room.
Meh, I can't help it, I'm a bitch, but I always come back around.
Posted by: doubtful on January 22, 2009 at 1:34 PM | PERMALINK
He said what he would do and is doing what he said. And the world breathes a sigh of gladness.
It appears now that Obama, like Vulcans, never bluffs.
Pass the word.
Posted by: Curmudgeon on January 22, 2009 at 1:43 PM | PERMALINK
It's much easier to think of Bush as incompetent than corrupt. It somehow hurts a little less.
Posted by: JC on January 22, 2009 at 1:48 PM | PERMALINK
it's amazing to listen to this white house briefing and to hear how deeply embedded is the fear in the white house press corps who guzzled down every dribble the bushies directed their way.
they truly believe that sticking a flashlight up a bound man's ass has kept them safe.
it's always interesting to me who they think the torturers might be ... will they offer up their own children for that duty?
Posted by: linda on January 22, 2009 at 1:58 PM | PERMALINK
Wow, you mean "freedom" means freedom again. Now I can call Tenet's award what it really is, The Presidential Medal of Sycophancy and Incompetence.
Now President Obama can award the real Freedom Medal to someone who actually deserves it, Coleen Rowley.
Posted by: Winknandanod on January 22, 2009 at 2:01 PM | PERMALINK
There is no one on the conservative side of the aisle who is more disappointed in Obama's election that is bin Laden. Bush accomplished all of bin Laden's goals for the country by getting us mired in two wars and bankrupting the country. That was bin Laden's dream and it became reality with the help of the bush administration.
Posted by: CDW on January 22, 2009 at 2:30 PM | PERMALINK
Far be it from me to intrude with reality but, do those hellfire missiles from Predator drones count as intelligence or law enforcement ?
I give Obama credit for knowing how to push your buttons.
Posted by: Mike K on January 22, 2009 at 2:44 PM | PERMALINK
Everyone has missed the most important words in Obama's statement:
". . .the US intends to prosecute the ongoing struggle against violence and terrorism . . ."
Hopefully, gone are the days of the "War on Terrorism."
Posted by: Random on January 22, 2009 at 3:13 PM | PERMALINK
The matter of the detainees at Gitmo is a real mess. Fixing this and all the other messes will take a significant amount of time and all the help the U.S. can get.
Given the geographic location of Guantanamo Bay Navy Base, perhaps the Cubans can be persuaded to accept the remaining detainees along with the property they are standing on.
Posted by: gm_ on January 22, 2009 at 3:30 PM | PERMALINK
Far be it from me to intrude with reality
Why yes, Mike K, you are pretty damn far from reality.
Posted by: Gregory on January 22, 2009 at 4:52 PM | PERMALINK
I love being able to read a sentence that begins "The president said..." and not have my stomach turn.
Posted by: steveb on January 23, 2009 at 12:09 AM | PERMALINK