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January 29, 2009

THE ONCE AND FUTURE KING.... Long-time readers may recall that I've had an ongoing discussion with a friend of mine who goes by the name of Zeitgeist, about who is the single most ridiculous member of the U.S. House. He's tried to convince me the honor goes to Rep. Steve King of Iowa who, to be sure, is stark raving mad. I've pushed back, however, insisting Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota is more deserving.

I'm starting to hedge on whether I was too hasty.

Consider this comment from King, which is almost too ridiculous to believe.

"Let's just say that, that, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of 9/11, is brought to the United States to be tried in a federal court in the United States, under a federal judge, and we know what some of those judges do, and on a technicality, such as, let's just say he wasn't read his Miranda rights.... He is released into the streets of America. Walks over and steps up into a US embassy and applies for asylum for fear that he can't go back home cause he spilled the beans on al Qaeda. What happens then if another judge grants him asylum in the United States and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is on a path to citizenship."

John Cole describes this "the dumbest thing said by anyone in the last 20 years." That's a perfectly reasonable assessment.

And in case there's any doubt about whether King really did say this, out loud and in public, here's the segment from "The Daily Show" that featured an audio recording of King's comments.



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That's a special kind of crazy.

Posted by: Paul in KY on January 29, 2009 at 2:31 PM | PERMALINK

Mr Stewart, as usual, drove Mr. King's point home... into Arkham Asylum.

Posted by: Vokoban on January 29, 2009 at 2:32 PM | PERMALINK

The funniest part? Rush will be repeating this by this afternoon.

Posted by: Mnemosyne on January 29, 2009 at 2:32 PM | PERMALINK

At least he left out the "flamboyant lawyers." John Ashcroft is still an inspiration.

Posted by: Danp on January 29, 2009 at 2:35 PM | PERMALINK

Now, just to make this interesting, imagine the inverse: George W. Bush, about to be prosecute for war crimes, flees to ... let's say Venezuela and applies to asylum there! And within a year, he's on a path to being Hugo Chavez' Secretary of the Interior! Tax cuts for everyone!

Er... or something...

Posted by: FreeProton on January 29, 2009 at 2:37 PM | PERMALINK

And then Michelle Obama would invite him to the White House for dinner, allow him to marry their two daughters, and then BO would give him the nuclear codes so he could launch our own nuclear weapons against us!

Posted by: Wacko on January 29, 2009 at 2:40 PM | PERMALINK

No good can come of questioning zeitgeist's judgment. The dude knows whereof he speaks.

Posted by: shortstop on January 29, 2009 at 2:44 PM | PERMALINK

What kind of a messed up district does Rep. King represent? How does such a thought process go from fantasy to electability? We need to get a handle on who would elect such a person to Congress. We need to know why such an idiot has such undue power! -Kevo

Posted by: kevo on January 29, 2009 at 2:45 PM | PERMALINK

There really aren't too many explanations why people would vote for this kind of idiot. Maybe inbreeding at epic proportions in this doucheweed's district.

Posted by: Gandalf on January 29, 2009 at 2:45 PM | PERMALINK

There really aren't too many explanations why people would vote for this kind of idiot. Maybe inbreeding at epic proportions in this doucheweed's district.

Posted by: FU-political animal on January 29, 2009 at 2:46 PM | PERMALINK

He is released into the streets of America. Walks over and steps up into a US embassy and applies for asylum for fear that he can't go back home cause he spilled the beans on al Qaeda.

I didn't know we had any US embassies here in America. Has Obama appointed the American Ambassador to America yet?

Posted by: Stefan on January 29, 2009 at 2:49 PM | PERMALINK

Uhm, myself and about tens of thousands of other people have escaped from Alcatraz over the years. It is called the Escape from Alcatraz Triathlon. That swim is not that tough.

Now surviving Mr. Brain Eater and a few hundred of his closest friends, getting out of a Supermax and making it across fly over country? That would be freakin' hard!

Posted by: gttim on January 29, 2009 at 2:49 PM | PERMALINK

i am truly mystified how this ignorant friggin bunny got elected. iowans usually don't stoop this low for elected officials...

esp friggin CONGRESSMEN who don't know that THERE AREN'T ANY GODDAMNED U.S. EMBASSIES ON U.S. SOIL!

i mean, good grief.... sorry, for the yelling... ;-)

Posted by: linda on January 29, 2009 at 2:52 PM | PERMALINK

"What kind of a messed up district does Rep. King represent?"

I'm sad to say he represents the Iowa part of the Omaha Metro area. Omaha residents (and a lot of Iowans) refer to his ditrict as "Counciltucky."

Our own Rep, Lee Terry, is an ineffectual backbencher who hasn't done a thing without getting it approved by the Rethug leadership, but at least he knows not to think, you know, out loud.

Posted by: Unca Paul on January 29, 2009 at 2:52 PM | PERMALINK

No good can come of questioning zeitgeist's judgment. The dude knows whereof he speaks.-- shortstop, @ 14:44

Except that, in this particular case, Zeitgeist's judgment cannot be judged as being objective. As an Iowan himself, he has a vested interest in promoting his candidate. Benen, OTOH, doesn't have a horse in the race.

I admit, however, that King has more of a staying power than Bachman does, on top of being an equal opportunity idiot/fantasist; there are more examples of his idiocies than hers.

Posted by: exlibra on January 29, 2009 at 2:54 PM | PERMALINK

Consider the plus side, though: if Khalid Sheikh Mohammed does become an American citizen, he will hate himself for his freedoms, and will therefore be forced to make jihad against himself.

Though why the prospect of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed becoming an American citizen should upset the GOP I'm not sure. After all, he'd be pretty much a lock as a Republican voter: an anti-gay, anti-woman, anti-science religious fundamentalist who doesn't understand modern society.

Posted by: Stefan on January 29, 2009 at 2:56 PM | PERMALINK

What if, one day, the pressure of the job gets to King? And ibn order to alleviate that pressure, he goes to a prostitute? And in the throes of passion, he accidentally kills her? And then he panics, and kills the hotel manager and the security guard? And then goes flat-out insane and hits the road on a tri-state killing spree?

Unlikely sure, but it COULD happen.

So we should lock him up now. You know, better safe than sorry.

In fact, all of us, in extreme circumstances, are capable of heinous acts. Shouldn't we ALL be locked up? One Percent Doctrine and all that?

Oh, right, THAT'S crazy.

Someone should tell King to chillax. At this point everyone knows someone who died in Iraq. If a terrorist master mind were to be transferred to an American prison, he'd never live to see Day 2. I could, hoever, say the same thing if Bush or Cheney or anyone who enabled this war went to prison, too. Food for thought.

Posted by: slappy magoo on January 29, 2009 at 3:01 PM | PERMALINK

Great ideas FreeProton & Wacko - BRUCKHEIMER, are you out there?!?!

Posted by: whichwitch on January 29, 2009 at 3:05 PM | PERMALINK

Stewart also noted that if we can keep a brain-eating murderer in a U.S. prison, certainly we can keep any of the Guantanamo guys in there too.

Seriously, nobody likes to live near a prison, because many of them contain very violent people. Whether they're Americans or not is pretty much irrelevant to me.

Posted by: Allan Snyder on January 29, 2009 at 3:06 PM | PERMALINK

It will be a plot line on Unit Twenty-NC-Four-SI very soon. Once he's safely designated a citizen (and some liberal pantywaists prevent the heroes from detaining a citizen), he'll get together with a secret cell of high-tech superterrorists who operate out of the local university.

Posted by: rm on January 29, 2009 at 3:08 PM | PERMALINK

Oh, was that the braineater clip? And I'll bet he isn't even the worst of them.

Posted by: Allan Snyder on January 29, 2009 at 3:10 PM | PERMALINK

Colorado, currently home to Eric Rudolph, Jose Padilla, H. Rap Brown, The Unibomber, and a few other Islamic thugs (you know? those crazy guys who bombed the WTC the first time?), doesn't seem to mind housing terrorists. I vote Supermax. Besides it's not exactly in *my back yard*. :D

Plus I've read several articles regarding various European countries (France for one) who are considering taking some of them in.

But nooooo, let's all have the vapors at once.

Posted by: MissMudd on January 29, 2009 at 3:16 PM | PERMALINK

God, I love that Daily Show. It's my daily therapy!
The writers and staff are unbelievably top notch.

Posted by: Daily Show sets the bar way high on January 29, 2009 at 3:26 PM | PERMALINK

Ok Stefan - you killed me with that comment. Great hysterical point - I'm shocked that The Daily Show didn't do more with that or with the point of another commenter that what if he becomes a US citizen and then hates himself. Brilliant all around.

Posted by: inthewoods on January 29, 2009 at 3:29 PM | PERMALINK

I didn't know we had any US embassies here in America. Has Obama appointed the American Ambassador to America yet?

Yes, but her confirmation's being held up by Republicans who understandably question her travels to possibly seditious states including New York, California, Illinois, Massachusetts and Vermont. She's got some 'splaining to do.

Posted by: shortstop on January 29, 2009 at 3:32 PM | PERMALINK

I always enjoy slappy's hypotheticals. Thanks, magoo!

Posted by: shortstop on January 29, 2009 at 3:34 PM | PERMALINK

I dunno, this was pretty amazing, too.

I, in the 1960s was a product of school segregation, where we took our schools and completely disbanded them, and made racial equality. Fifty-Fifty. And the kids had no choices. They closed Booker T. Washington, Blease, down here. A pretty good school. Closed it and sent the students to A. C. Flora, across town. And they did it over the summer because the laws had been changed by the politicians. And, the day that school opened, we were on CBS news with the busses turned upside down, and one of them lit on fire. By folks who didn’t want to go to school there. Not folks who did.

The end of that story was, I was standing in a bathroom in public school... This scar over here [pointing to his forehead] was from a baseball bat. I will tell you it was a pretty harsh environment. Government reached into my life and grabbed me and shook me at the age of fifteen.

And there you have it. Katon Dawson is a Republican because, 20 years ago, someone hit him in the head with a baseball bat.

That explains a lot.
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Posted by: Grand Moff Texan on January 29, 2009 at 3:46 PM | PERMALINK

First off, I appreciate the kind words and faith in my ability to recognize Teh Crazy. But really, the job of picking #1 seeds in Benen's annual, imagined March "Madness" of Congressional Crazies has got so much easier since Marilyn Musgrave and Bill Sali were sent packing.

Second, those of you questioning how King gets elected, I can only say it wasn't always thus. Long ago and far away, when Iowa had 6 CDs (it is about to drop to 4), the northern half (roughly) of King's district was represented by Berkley Bedell, a wonderful - albeit centrist - Democrat.

But I must confess some Iowa pride in seeing our man King surge back into the lead. He has been on a roll ever since Obama was elected. Obama has really brought out King's A-game.

By the way, I am getting a little frightened that perhaps something leaked out of a military installation in the upper midwest that is rotting people's minds. It occurs to me that I am now surrounded by King to my west, Bachman to my north, and Blago to my east (we wont even get into the cast of characters down in Mizzou.)

Posted by: zeitgeist on January 29, 2009 at 3:51 PM | PERMALINK

It occurs to me that I am now surrounded by King to my west, Bachman to my north, and Blago to my east (we wont even get into the cast of characters down in Mizzou.)

Well, eventually Blago will be locked up, but starting tomorrow (probably), he'll have more free time to travel, so there is the risk that he'll meander across the Mississip. However, he hates leaving his living room, so you're probably good.

Posted by: shortstop on January 29, 2009 at 3:56 PM | PERMALINK

Consider the plus side, though: if Khalid Sheikh Mohammed does become an American citizen, he will hate himself for his freedoms, and will therefore be forced to make jihad against himself. Stefan

Yeah, this is called jihaderbation ;-)

Posted by: independent thinker on January 29, 2009 at 4:03 PM | PERMALINK

Yes, yes, this is good "entertainment" for us, but realize how many cretinous pukes out there will believe every word of it. And they (in addition to the super-rich overlords) are the Republican base now!

Posted by: Neil B ☺ on January 29, 2009 at 4:05 PM | PERMALINK

"Our own Rep, Lee Terry, is an ineffectual backbencher who hasn't done a thing without getting it approved by the Rethug leadership, but at least he knows not to think, you know, out loud. "

Posted by: Unca Paul

When you have a loudmouth asshole like Lee Terry Sr. for a dad, can you blame him for turning out the way he did?

Posted by: 2Manchu on January 29, 2009 at 4:17 PM | PERMALINK

It's tragic that King was re-elected. The guy who ran against him in Nov was totally a decent guy...smart...oh well, maybe that's why W IA didn't go for him.

Posted by: wikibrain on January 29, 2009 at 4:36 PM | PERMALINK

Damn, King has it all wrong. All wrong. Everyone knows that he'll walk on a technicality, right into the arms of an America-hating moveon hussy who will bear him an anchor baby. Then he'll get tenure at Berkeley, and maybe a visiting fellow slot at Brookings. Once he's been fully rehabilitated, he'll get a visiting professorship at Army War College and become a top private advisor to the Obamas.

Posted by: Northzax on January 29, 2009 at 4:52 PM | PERMALINK

Two words:

Mike Pence.

Google him. Awesome.

Posted by: Donald A. Coffin on January 29, 2009 at 5:23 PM | PERMALINK

How can Jon Stewart make fun of these Repubs who are so outrageous all by themselves?

BTW, what crazy drugs are King taking?

Posted by: MarkH on January 29, 2009 at 5:23 PM | PERMALINK

Then he'll get tenure at Berkeley, and maybe a visiting fellow slot at Brookings.

Wrong-o, Northzax.

New third judge on American Idol.

Put it in the bank.

Posted by: Davis X. Machina on January 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM | PERMALINK

You k ow, every time I see a picture of KSM, I think he looks EXACTLY like John Belushi in Animal House! Anyone else have the same thoughts?

Posted by: phoebes in santa fe on January 29, 2009 at 5:30 PM | PERMALINK

Yeah, and what if he comes to your house and licks his finger, huh?, and sticks it in your ear, and, whaddaya gonna do, huh, what?

Fucking Democrats.

Posted by: alan on January 29, 2009 at 9:09 PM | PERMALINK

There are American embassies on U.S. soil? Shit!! Then why were my passport application submission choices the post office or the State Department passport office located between L and M sts , NW?

American embassies on U.S. soil. Sigh. And King is a congressman? I guess conservatives are hostile to science and courses in American government.

Posted by: tec619 on January 29, 2009 at 9:12 PM | PERMALINK

Actually, John Cole is wrong. "The dumberst thing said in the past 20 years" was said at a discussion group for that hobby I have mentioned that seems to attract more than its share of the drooler caucus of Wingnuttia. There, a guy who is definitely the dumbest fathead I have ever personally known in real life, posted congratulations to Rep. King's statement, followed by 7 "dittoheads" saying essentially "ditto."

The guys in Congress like King aren't the dumbest futhermuckers on the planet. The dumbest futhermuckers on the planet are the ones who think these guys like King are smart enough to be their leaders.

Posted by: TCinLA on January 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM | PERMALINK


exactly...

the only time you listen to a republicans these days..

is when you need a ...

punchline..

Posted by: mr. irony on January 30, 2009 at 8:40 AM | PERMALINK




 

 

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