February 10, 2009
FRED BARNES' ONGOING CONFUSION.... There is, to be sure stiff competition, but Fred Barnes has to be in the lead in the race to be the nation's worst political columnist. Take this paragraph from Barnes' latest piece, railing against an economic stimulus.
Obama sounded like Al Gore on global warming. The more the case for man-made warming falls apart, the more hysterical Gore gets about an imminent catastrophe. The more public support his bill loses, the more Obama embraces fear-mongering. "The failure to act, and act now," the president said last week, "will turn a crisis into a catastrophe."
That's quite a lot of stupidity in just 57 words.
Specifically relating to Barnes being a global-warming denier, Zachary Roth gave the conservative pundit a call, to see when, exactly, the case for man-made warming started "falling apart."
At first, he cited the fact that it's been cold lately. Perhaps sensing this was less than convincing, Barnes then asserted that there had been a "cooling spell" in recent years. "Haven't you noticed?" he asked.
Asked for firmer evidence of such cooling, Barnes demurred, telling TPMmuckraker he was too busy to track it down.
We pressed Barnes again: surely he could tell us where he had found this vital new information, which could upend the current debate over how to address global warming.
In response, Barnes said only that he knew where he had found it, but would not tell us, apparently as a matter of principle. "I'm not going to do your research for you," he eventually said, before hurriedly ending the call.
So, Barnes published a column with obvious nonsense, and when pressed, insists he's seen evidence to bolster his claims -- but doesn't want to share it.
Barnes will, however, continue to be a member in good standing of the D.C. media political establishment. Nothing he could say or write could ever change that.
—Steve Benen 11:00 AM
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Steve Benen wrote: "Barnes published a column with obvious nonsense ..."
No, Barnes published a column with obvious deliberate lies.
Barnes is not "confused". Barnes is a liar.
Posted by: SecularAnimist on February 10, 2009 at 10:57 AM | PERMALINK
Eventually the cacophony of stupidity will simply become an isolated echo chamber.
Until then, we all suffer.
Posted by: fromer on February 10, 2009 at 10:58 AM | PERMALINK
What can any of us do to demand more of people like Freddy Barnes? He is a bought and paid for shill for the corporate media. He does their bidding and he does it well.
Posted by: Ron Byers on February 10, 2009 at 11:02 AM | PERMALINK
Al Gore hysterical? Is he joking? He must be talking about some other Gore. Actually Gore and Obama are a lot alike in their calm, deliberative demeanors. Only Obama truly has an oratorical gift.
On Morning Joe, Joe actually asked why people are saying this recession is different than previous ones. Do scarborough or Barnes read newspapers? It's amazing how little these so-called pundits understand about what we're facing economicaally. They're nothing more than ostriches; they also probably believe that no matter what happens their cushy lives are protected. So why should they bother to have opinions based on facts and research, they get paid just the same.
Posted by: zoe kentucky on February 10, 2009 at 11:04 AM | PERMALINK
Fred Barnes has to be in the lead in the race to be the nation's worst political columnist.
Compared to Bloody Bill Kristol? Fat chance.
Posted by: Gregory on February 10, 2009 at 11:05 AM | PERMALINK
The more public support his bill loses, the more Obama embraces fear-mongering.
Don't forget that for the past eight years, more the public disagreed with Bush's policies, the more Bush became a man of principle by not admitting he was wrong.
Posted by: RSA on February 10, 2009 at 11:07 AM | PERMALINK
Wow, the Right must really hate Al Gore. Last night on MSNBC I heard someone dissing Paul Krugman. He has a Nobel Prize, but how hard could it be to get one, because Al Gore also has one of those things.
Must be a new attack against the elitists. Reminds me of the first scene in "True Lies" where Arnold smashes together the heads of two dobermans. These guys envision themselves as Arnold, superior because they can take out the enemy by playing one against the other (in their own mind, of course).
Posted by: tomj on February 10, 2009 at 11:08 AM | PERMALINK
Barnes is a leading member of the "should-be-unemployed-and-living-under-a-bridge-club" but alas, he remains a SERIOUS, Beltway pundit. The mind reels.
Posted by: ckelly on February 10, 2009 at 11:09 AM | PERMALINK
Pass this on to Fred (from an AP article available to newspapers today):
"Experts said some birds aren't bothering to fly as far south in the winter... The purple finch, for example, has been spending its winters more than 400 miles farther north than it used to. According to a study being released by the Audubon Society, more than half of 305 birds species in North America are spending the winter about 35 miles farther north than they did 40 years ago... Over the 40 years covered by the study, the average January temperature in the U.S. climbed by about 5 degrees Fahrenheit."
Say, Fred: ever heard about the canary in the coal mine? Guess not.
Posted by: CMcC on February 10, 2009 at 11:11 AM | PERMALINK
we don't call 'em pundidiots for nothing.
Posted by: mellowjohn on February 10, 2009 at 11:17 AM | PERMALINK
Listening to many of these know-nothing bozos makes me think of the following scene:
The world's top doctors are standing around America, the patient. They all agree that we have a potentially terminal cancer and that aggressive, immediate treatment must be taken. Barnes is standing there arguing that it's just a cold and will get better on its own.
These people are ignorant fools who are proud of their ability to reject facts and reality. They are poisoning our dicourse and only serve to make America sicker.
Posted by: zoe kentucky on February 10, 2009 at 11:19 AM | PERMALINK
Shorter Barnes: "I'm lying through my teeth, but I'm not going to help you prove it to the world!"
Note to Barnes: You do that quite nicely all by youself....
Posted by: Steve W. on February 10, 2009 at 11:23 AM | PERMALINK
Barnesy clearly pulled this right out of his well-chapped sphincter.
Posted by: Sam Simple on February 10, 2009 at 11:26 AM | PERMALINK
I wonder why the geniuses who are so quick to pounce on every snowstorm as proof that there is no global warming have been so vewwy, vewwy quiet about the wildfires devastating Australia? These aren't just a one-time event, but the culmination of years of devastating drought. Australians have been adjusting for some years now to the painful realization that their country may never again have the climate that it once did -- while bracing for the likelihood of absorbing waves of refugees when some small Pacific island nations like Nauru vanish under the rising waters.
Zoe, righties call Gore "hysterical" because it's part of their narrative. He's a crazy, wild-eyed fanatic and serial liar. Hey, he said he discovered Love Canal, right? Never mind that two high school kids debunked that one by checking the actual tape of his remarks; the Very Serious Pundits don't take kindly to having bratty little upstarts mess up their story line. Who you gonna believe, Maureen Dowd and her clique of in-kids, or your own lyin' eyes?
Posted by: T-Rex on February 10, 2009 at 11:27 AM | PERMALINK
Al Gore hysterical? Is he joking? He must be talking about some other Gore. Actually Gore and Obama are a lot alike in their calm, deliberative demeanors. Only Obama truly has an oratorical gift.
Gore can get it going if he really wants to. I fondly remember his May, 2004 speech to MoveOn, the one about Abu Ghraib etc. Of course, pundits played the "hysterical" card then too (not to mention the "off his meds" card). I guess they get nervous when someone shows that he actually believes in something.
Posted by: noncarborundum on February 10, 2009 at 11:29 AM | PERMALINK
A very recent study showed that 97% of [i]actual[/i] climate scientists, the ones who [i]actually[/i] study the [i]actual[/i] data, think that man contributes to warming.
I know this isn't equal to global warming being a fact, and it's always healthy to be skeptical of fear-mongering. But it certainly repudiates the notion that the "case is falling apart." It seems the people actually studying the case disagree.
Posted by: Franklin on February 10, 2009 at 11:31 AM | PERMALINK
I realize that anecdotal evidence doesn't really count for much in something like this, but I haven't really noticed much of a cooling trend lately up here in Winnipeg. Where it's raining. In the second week of February. There's also been some fairly large and erratic temperature swings over the past 5 or 6 weeks after an exceptionally cold December and January.
But hey, to the right wing, a hot summer means it's just summer and a cold winter means global climate change is completely debunked.
Posted by: dk on February 10, 2009 at 11:45 AM | PERMALINK
In response, Barnes said only that he knew where he had found it, but would not tell us, apparently as a matter of principle. "I'm not going to do your research for you," he eventually said, before hurriedly ending the call.
That had to be as much fun for Roth as it is when we bust our wingnut trolls in the same way and they skitter out of here like roaches.
Posted by: shortstop on February 10, 2009 at 11:52 AM | PERMALINK
That had to be as much fun for Roth as it is when we bust our wingnut trolls in the same way and they skitter out of here like roaches.
And like our trolls, Barnes will soon be back, prattling shamelessly as if he still had some credibility.
Posted by: Gregory on February 10, 2009 at 11:54 AM | PERMALINK
As long as there's one deep-in-debt or corruptible hack who is willing to say global warming is a myth for the right price, the right will always gleefully crow along. On a good day, when their emaciated dying consciences manage to peek through the depths of their souls where they're buried, you'll get an occasional "well, I guess the jury's still out, then."
Posted by: slappy magoo on February 10, 2009 at 12:02 PM | PERMALINK
As T-Rex pointed out, they seem to ignore what's going on in the rest of the world, like, oh, Australia. There's some shocking (but cute) pix of koalas desperately drinking from cyclists' water bottles, out of people's swimming pools, etc. Scientists predict they could go extinct in the next century because of the climate change.
And then there was that 8 mile ice floe in Lake Erie, stranding 100s of ice fishermen. let's ignore that happening in February...
Posted by: lou on February 10, 2009 at 12:05 PM | PERMALINK
We had some cold weather last week, but today's high is forecast at 68°. In February.
None of which means anything to large-scale weather assessment.
Barnes is like most shameless liars - if you catch him lying he'll pull some sort of aggressive maneuver ("I won't do your research for you") to avoid dealing with his being caught out.
Posted by: jimBOB on February 10, 2009 at 12:09 PM | PERMALINK
Barnes is a born again nutcase -- they don't need no stinkin' evidence
Posted by: The Fool on February 10, 2009 at 12:11 PM | PERMALINK
"Calendar year 2008 was the coolest year since 2000, according to the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) analysis of worldwide temperature measurements, but it was still in the top ten warmest years since the start of record-keeping in 1880."-NASA
"In 2008,Eastern Europe, Russia, the Arctic, and the Antarctic Peninsula were exceptionally warm (1.5 to 3.5 degrees Celsius above average). The temperature in the United States in 2008 was not much different than the 1951-1980 mean, which makes 2008 cooler than all of the previous years this decade"-NASA
Posted by: palinoscopy on February 10, 2009 at 12:32 PM | PERMALINK
I've been telling you folks and everyone else for years how Barnes just makes stuff up and calls his fantasies "well-known facts" that "everyone knows." If people would just listen to me how much better the world would be.
Barnes goes on TV and invents nonexistent poll results, nonexistent public opinion, nonexistent scentific documentation, nonexistent democratic stances, etc., etc., etc.
Why does this imbecile have a job?
Posted by: Anon on February 10, 2009 at 12:54 PM | PERMALINK
Fred Barnes can also turn invisible if he wants to. He just doesn't want to.
Posted by: Stephen Stralka on February 10, 2009 at 1:03 PM | PERMALINK
If only people like Barnes had applied the same degree of skepticism to Saddam's WMD that they do to global warming.
Posted by: Virginia on February 10, 2009 at 2:03 PM | PERMALINK
As I read the complete hogwash which regularly spews from the mouths of 'members of the DC political establishment,' I have two thoughts:
1) Nice work if you can get it.
2) How can I get work like this? The only other way to get paid for being so frequently wrong is to work as a meteorologist.
-Z
Posted by: Zorro on February 10, 2009 at 2:25 PM | PERMALINK
There's an editorial cartoonist in Tampa named Wayne Stayskal who does the same global warming jokes over and over:
1) It's the dead of winter, snow piled high, and a global warming believer is wearing summer clothes outside, because, get it, he's such a fanatic that he can't even see that it's cold!
2) Former global warming supporters are burning their Al Gore books to stay warm, etc.
The basic idea is always the same -- any winter weather disproves global warming entirely. I suppose Wayne will only become a believer when it never snows anywhere ever. Of course, by that time Tampa will be underwater...
Posted by: Kreniigh on February 10, 2009 at 2:46 PM | PERMALINK
February is the new March.
Posted by: SecularAnimist on February 10, 2009 at 2:59 PM | PERMALINK
Barnes will, however, continue to be a member in good standing of the D.C. media political establishment. Nothing he could say or write could ever change that.
Wrong. If he one day declared he has seen the light, that Gore has been correct all along, he'd be out of the club within a few weeks.
Posted by: stvwlf on February 10, 2009 at 3:07 PM | PERMALINK
The right-wing obsession with Al Gore has nothing to do with climate change.
It has to do with the fact that Al Gore defeated George W. Bush and was the legitimately elected president of the United States of America in the 2000 election, in spite of the massive and monstrous voter disenfranchisement conspiracy perpetrated by Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris, which prevented tens of thousands of eligible Democratic voters in Florida from voting by falsely identifying them as "felons" and purging them from the voter rolls.
In spite of that massive fraud, Al Gore won Florida anyway, after which a group of corrupt, partisan Republican hacks on the US Supreme Court brazenly violated their oaths of office, and intervened to prevent all the Florida ballots from being counted, thereby stealing the election and installing Bush in the White House in a bloodless coup.
Al Gore is a constant reminder that Bush was never, ever, the legitimately elected President of the USA -- he was merely a career white-collar crook who lied, cheated and stole his way into power.
That's why right-wingers hate Al Gore with such fervor.
Posted by: SecularAnimist on February 10, 2009 at 3:27 PM | PERMALINK
We all need to do the call-ins and say that Fred Barnes takes money from ExxonMobil to spew their lies. And if challenged, tell the questioner "look it up yourself, I'm not going to do your research for you."
And as someone else said, the real question is why does Barnes even have a job? Someone with connections should get an interview with his boss and ask them if they think Barnes deserves his slot even though he lies blatantly and then runs away rather than admit he's wrong.
Posted by: Racer X on February 10, 2009 at 5:26 PM | PERMALINK