February 23, 2009
THE GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING.... At this point, I kind of hope South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford (R) continues to strive for the national spotlight. The governor, who appears to be mad as a hatter, keeps saying crazy things that make for fun blog posts.
Here's his latest new gem:
"[Y]ou know, people who don't learn from history are destined to repeat it.
"The Golden Gate Bridge was a Hoover-era infrastructure project designed to get the economy going. The L.A. aqueduct system was a Hoover-era, you know, infrastructure program designed to get the economy going. The Hoover Dam was a Depression-era, you know, project designed to get the economy going."
First, Sanford claims to oppose government spending in the midst of a crisis, so I'm not sure why he'd point to public works projects like these. Second, as my friend Alex Koppelman explained, the Golden Gate Bridge wasn't a Hoover-era infrastructure project; it was originally proposed before Hoover was even born, and began being built six years before Hoover became president. For that matter, the Hoover Dam wasn't a "Depression-era project," either.
What was that the governor was saying about those who don't learn from history?
On a related note, during a C-SPAN appearance this morning, Sanford received a call from a man from Charleston who lost his job because he's been taking care of an ailing mother and sister. The man relies on unemployment insurance, and Sanford is "wrong" to decline the unemployment money in the stimulus bill. The governor's response? Sanford said his "prayers are going to be with him and his family because it sounds like he is in an awfully tough spot." As Ben Armbruster added, "Sanford offered no other alternative solution for his constituent."
And just for good measure, Sanford, appearing on Fox News yesterday, was asked about his decision to turn down unemployment insurance for struggling South Carolinians. He responded that the stimulus package "at times it sounds like the Soviet grain quotas of Stalin's time -- X number of jobs will be created because Washington says so."
The easiest way to make this guy appear foolish is to hand him a microphone and get out of the way.
Just keep on talking, gov.
—Steve Benen 4:25 PM
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"...sounds like the Soviet grain quotas of Stalin's time -- X number of jobs will be created because Washington says so."
Give him credit, it does sound like that. I'll wait until the results are in before criticizing Obama for missing the target, though.
Posted by: Grumpy on February 23, 2009 at 4:24 PM | PERMALINK
What is this Hoover Dam of which you speak? Surely you mean Boulder Dam.
Posted by: Screamin' Demon on February 23, 2009 at 4:36 PM | PERMALINK
One of the consequences of the big GOP losses in the November elections is that they are now out of power and don't have the responsibility of actually governing, thus they are liberated to reveal their innermost batshit crazy sentiments. It's like a faucet has been opened wide-- hardly a day passes where they don't come up with some crazy new proclamations.
Posted by: gizmo on February 23, 2009 at 4:36 PM | PERMALINK
Sometimes I envy the US for their entertaining politicians. Where do you grow them?
Posted by: Vokoban on February 23, 2009 at 4:47 PM | PERMALINK
Grumpy,
Can you expand on that a little bit? You hear Obama say he plans to create jobs, and immediately you think of Stalin and grain quotas? Oh wait . . . they are both communists, right?
Posted by: DR on February 23, 2009 at 4:49 PM | PERMALINK
Remember, serious people in the Republican party actually want this jack ass to run for the Presidency. You gotta love it. I would give to his campaign just to keep him around.
Posted by: sgwhiteinfla on February 23, 2009 at 4:54 PM | PERMALINK
Eventually the GOP will learn the hard way that when princples are in conflict with reality, reality is always going to win.
Posted by: mfw13 on February 23, 2009 at 4:54 PM | PERMALINK
Even if Sanford were right (which he is not), what does he have against dams and bridges?
Posted by: Mnemosyne on February 23, 2009 at 5:03 PM | PERMALINK
More evidence that most Republicans miss the fundamental reality that people are directly affected by these policy choices. They operate in the realm of ideology not the one where money from unemployment benefits keeps a family in crisis from greater pain and difficulty.
Posted by: Amy on February 23, 2009 at 5:07 PM | PERMALINK
I live in SC. I look forward to Sanford's running for national office on his unblemished record of years of non-achievement, first as a Congressman and now as Governor.
Posted by: kc on February 23, 2009 at 5:11 PM | PERMALINK
it is amazing to me, but quite fine that the republican candidates for president on the horizon are more of the same as last year.
certainly, no slate of repub prez candidates henceforth could ever exceed the clown car extravaganza of last year (and let's face it, folks... the least insane candidate did win the nomination) but i am pleased they are making the effort...
Posted by: neill on February 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM | PERMALINK
It's truly astonishing that any of the governors who claim that they'll reject stimulous money actually expect to be rewarded by the voters in their home states for making them suffer.
Oh, right, they're playing to the national audience of mouth-breathers, not just the local crowd. Still, best not to soil their own nest before the votes are actually in the bag. Right, boys?
Uh....boys?
Posted by: Curmudgeon on February 23, 2009 at 5:26 PM | PERMALINK
Every moment spent talking about Mark Sanford is a moment spent not getting to the bottom of the mysterious death of Vince Foster.
Posted by: dead weight mike on February 23, 2009 at 5:41 PM | PERMALINK
I guess this is the inevitable outgrowth of claiming that Roosevelt caused the Depression:
"The Golden Gate Bridge was a Hoover-era infrastructure project designed to get the economy going. The L.A. aqueduct system was a Hoover-era, you know, infrastructure program designed to get the economy going. The Hoover Dam was a Depression-era, you know, project designed to get the economy going."
Hoover! Hoover! Hoover!
Posted by: FlipYrWhig on February 23, 2009 at 6:15 PM | PERMALINK
Over the course of my life, I've discovered the power of prayer is so much stronger than anything an unemployment check could give me. - Gov. Sanford
At least that was what the dear ol'Gov. gave to his constituent. No doubt Sanford will get the caller's vote the next time around if he hasn't died of starvation by then! -Kevo
Posted by: kevo on February 23, 2009 at 6:17 PM | PERMALINK
The Golden Gate Bridge was a Hoover-era infrastructure project designed to get the economy going. The L.A. aqueduct system was a Hoover-era, you know, infrastructure program designed to get the economy going. The Hoover Dam was a Depression-era, you know, project designed to get the economy going
None of these -- as noted -- were New Deal projects per se, but they all produced long-term gains for the economy in the regions where they were built and employed a lot of people to boot. Can you imagine modern California without the aqueduct system? Oh -- another useless project? The TVA. Giving electricity to a bunch of hillbillies. Seriously. What did they ever do for the economy?
Posted by: jonas on February 23, 2009 at 6:19 PM | PERMALINK
Oh, and dead weight(red state)mike, the Vince Foster story is so dead! Give it a burial! -Kevo
Posted by: kevo on February 23, 2009 at 6:19 PM | PERMALINK
Sanford obviously spent his educational years involved with an excess of Hoover Maneuvers which decreased the size of his cranial cavity.
Posted by: anon on February 23, 2009 at 6:35 PM | PERMALINK
I suppose that Sanford counts on SC legislature overriding his refusal and accepting the money. It's his way of eating the cake (display conservative "principles" for the voters on the national scene) and having it too (what are you, local yokels, grumbling about? You got the money; I prayed for your relief and you got it).
Kevo, @18:17,
I know its a no-no to the Repubs but, now that you've turned into a Dem, you can start cultivating some sense of humour, instead of kicking straight into the outrage mode. "Dead weight mike" and "red state mike" are *not* one and the same person; the first is a parody of the first. Almost life-size skillful? Yes. Sly? Yes. Subtle? Yes. But, parody all the same...
Posted by: exlibra on February 23, 2009 at 7:12 PM | PERMALINK
"On a related note, during a C-SPAN appearance this morning, Sanford received a call from a man from Charleston who lost his job because he's been taking care of an ailing mother and sister. The man relies on unemployment insurance, and Sanford is "wrong" to decline the unemployment money in the stimulus bill."
So is anyone from our side going to track this guy down and maybe make a video about him and put it on YouTube and maybe get him on a couple of talk shows?
Are we going to do this or is it only the Republicans who have plumbers?
Posted by: leo on February 23, 2009 at 8:05 PM | PERMALINK
All Sanford manages to prove is no South Carolina politician has learned a damn thing since the Barbadian Pirates arrived in 1710. Sanford is way dumber than John C. Calhoun, if such is possible, and even dumber than Charles Pinckney.
Southernists can't learn from history, because if they did they would no longer be Southernists.
Posted by: TCinLA on February 23, 2009 at 8:08 PM | PERMALINK
So now Keynesian economics were a Republican idea?
You'd think the GOP would be more supportive...
Does this qualify for "Staying on Message" or not? I can't tell.
Posted by: toowearyforoutrage on February 23, 2009 at 8:12 PM | PERMALINK
Down here in South Carolina, we call it showing your ass.
livia
Posted by: livia on February 23, 2009 at 8:46 PM | PERMALINK
Uhm, Governor,
Before you can repeat it, or not repeat it, it would be helpful to know history.
Have there moron's never heard of "The Google?"
Posted by: c u n d gulag on February 23, 2009 at 9:25 PM | PERMALINK
Governor--
Those who don't learn from history are condemned to repeat it.
Those who don't learn their history are condemned to repeat the course or take the F.
This time, looks like you're having your cake and eating it, too.
Posted by: docdave on February 24, 2009 at 10:23 AM | PERMALINK
mfw13: Eventually the GOP will learn the hard way that when princples are in conflict with reality, reality is always going to win.
Not likely anytime soon. These are people who have invested deeply in the notion that reality is nowhere near as important as the ability to invent and describe their own version of it to people.
Posted by: DH Walker on February 24, 2009 at 12:19 PM | PERMALINK