February 25, 2009
KRISTOL IS AS KRISTOL DOES.... We talked earlier about President Obama facing at least some pushback for putting the economy in front of foreign affairs in his address to Congress. I should have realized similar criticism from Bill Kristol wouldn't be far behind.
Kristol, now a contributor to Time the New York Times the Washington Post, argues today that the president only devoted a "few sentences" to foreign policy last night, adding, "The treatment of foreign policy was perfunctory at best." That's a subjective question, I suppose, but Obama devoted nine paragraphs, totaling about 600 words, to the issue, and outlined an entirely new approach to international affairs. Kristol may not approve of the vision, but that doesn't mean it wasn't there.
But more importantly, Kristol wasn't too terribly concerned with the extent of Obama's comments on foreign policy, or where they were included in the speech, but he seemed quite troubled over what the president didn't say.
The only particular place mentioned by Obama, in addition to Iraq and Afghanistan/Pakistan, was Israel: "To seek progress toward a secure and lasting peace between Israel and her neighbors, we have appointed an envoy to sustain our effort." The Israeli-Arab dispute and its envoy merits a mention. Yet Iran and its nuclear program does not?
This was not the speech of a man who even contemplates the possibility of using force within the next year to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.
Kristol seems to think this is criticism, as if asking, "Where was the belligerent saber-rattling at Tehran?" is necessarily evidence of some kind of presidential omission. Obama probably won't attack Iran in 2009 -- and we're supposed to think that's a bad thing.
How odd.
—Steve Benen 1:35 PM
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Yes, because the best thing to do while we're quietly trying to establish diplomatic relations with Iran to try and get them to peacefully end their nuclear ambitions would be to call them the "Axis of Evil" again. Because that worked out so well last time.
Bill Kristol -- fountain of idiocy.
Posted by: Mnemosyne on February 25, 2009 at 1:35 PM | PERMALINK
My Kristol to Reality Matrix translates Kristol's idiotic and misplaced criticism into Pure Win for Obama.
Potential danger: Given his nearly perfect anti-predictive power, his lament that Obama doesn't look like a man who will use force to prevent a nuclear Iran MAY make such a thing an inevitability.
Posted by: Jay B. on February 25, 2009 at 1:37 PM | PERMALINK
In referencing the same article, SadlyNo has a pretty good Shorter Bill Kristol:
Obama spent so much time talking about the economy and barely mentioned my wars! My precious, precious wars! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.
Posted by: Monty on February 25, 2009 at 1:40 PM | PERMALINK
"and we're supposed to think that's a bad thing"
If there is anything that separates the "left" from the "right" it war, torture, etc.
So, to a Republican this is bad news - to everybody else - on the planet - it's good news.
Posted by: Mark-NC on February 25, 2009 at 1:41 PM | PERMALINK
Once again the "Kristol Bawl" seeks the children of others to risk their lives in unnecessary wars. Richard Perle has distanced himself from neocons but Billy boy continues to pursue his special interests without putting himself and fellow neocons and their families at risk.
Posted by: Shag from Brookline on February 25, 2009 at 1:41 PM | PERMALINK
I would hope that the current President of the United States has better intelligence (in both senses) than Bill (I'm always wrong) Kristol.
Posted by: James G on February 25, 2009 at 1:47 PM | PERMALINK
bloodthirsty billie only experiences sexual gratification when he ponders the burned, mutilated bodies of those not privy to the cloistered upbringing of the american intelligentsia.
Posted by: linda on February 25, 2009 at 1:49 PM | PERMALINK
Bill Kristol's a lot like Off-the-Hook Steele: if he criticizes it, it's probably a great idea, and if he lauds it, you should run the other way as fast as you can.
Posted by: Chocolate Thunder on February 25, 2009 at 1:50 PM | PERMALINK
My guess is that this is preemptive politicking...an attempt to sustain the meme that Dems are poor on foreign policy left over from the campaign.
Posted by: JWK on February 25, 2009 at 1:53 PM | PERMALINK
bill kristol is a serious thinker. who are we to question him? think war first, diplomacy last. for example, i'll bet the mexican government would tighten its side of the border if we threatened to send a few cruise missiles in the direction of mexico city. cheap canadian pharmaceuticals coming south? nuke ottawa. now that's serious thinking that bill would be proud of.
Posted by: mudwall jackson on February 25, 2009 at 1:53 PM | PERMALINK
"This was not the speech of a man who even contemplates the possibility of using force within the next year to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons."
Thank goodness for that!
Posted by: dk on February 25, 2009 at 1:55 PM | PERMALINK
Kristol is to prognostication as dogshit sandwiches are to nutrition.
Posted by: Dennis-SGMM on February 25, 2009 at 1:56 PM | PERMALINK
Richard Perle has distanced himself from neocons...
Yeah, right. His latest latest piece is a craptastic pile of whining neocon revisionism that pretends neoconservatism doesn't exist. What a hack.
Posted by: Monty on February 25, 2009 at 2:01 PM | PERMALINK
Oh, is Bill Kristol sad because he won't get to blow up any more countries? Poor baby. Why don't you go play a few more games of RISK to cheer you up. (Neocons love RISK, because you can conquer the whole Middle East in one turn!)
Posted by: gf120581 on February 25, 2009 at 2:06 PM | PERMALINK
I can't figure out why CB even reads Kristol anymore. Bill's credibility has been gone for some time now, nobody else is listening to him.
Posted by: Franklin on February 25, 2009 at 2:10 PM | PERMALINK
Another example at how lost in the woods this party's voices actually are. In Kristol's world the default position is bombing Iran.
Posted by: TBone on February 25, 2009 at 2:13 PM | PERMALINK
Bill who? He's still alive and kicking? Who really cares anymore what he says.
Posted by: sparrow on February 25, 2009 at 2:20 PM | PERMALINK
So Kristol doesn't think Obama focused enough on foreign affairs. If O had talked more about it, Kristol would complain that O wasn't serious enough about the economy.
Republicans, a bunch of whiny little girls.
Posted by: jen f on February 25, 2009 at 2:32 PM | PERMALINK
..and what of Gunga Dim's speech where BOTH afghanistan, and Iraq were not even mentioned?
Posted by: aliasalias on February 25, 2009 at 2:49 PM | PERMALINK
Another coward bastard who points fingers at others while he waves his flag but never stepped up to serve his own country. Rethug hack.
Posted by: SteveA on February 25, 2009 at 2:51 PM | PERMALINK
This was not the speech of a man who even contemplates the possibility of using force within the next year to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.
Shorter Bloody Bill Kristol: Obama cockblocked my wargasm!
Posted by: Gregory on February 25, 2009 at 3:08 PM | PERMALINK
Kristol, now a contributor to ... the Washington Post.
I take offense. Kristol contributes nothing.
Posted by: ckelly on February 25, 2009 at 3:21 PM | PERMALINK
Dammit Gregory, another spew-worthy post. I've got to lay off the soda-drinking at my monitor.
Posted by: ckelly on February 25, 2009 at 3:33 PM | PERMALINK
...using force within the next year to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.
That'd be like punching Jessica Alba in the face to stop her from sleeping with me.
Posted by: Tree on February 25, 2009 at 4:18 PM | PERMALINK
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Posted by: mhr on February 25, 2009 at 4:33 PM | PERMALINK
Quoth Kristol:
This was not the speech of a man who even contemplates the possibility of using force within the next year to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.
So we are supposed to take it as a bad thing that the President does not appear inclined to launch a war of aggression "justified" by the speculative future potentiality that a country we don't like might someday acquire weapons of mass destruction.
I mean, seriously, I think we've tried that approach to foreign policy, and it hasn't turned out all that well.
Posted by: cmdicely on February 25, 2009 at 6:40 PM | PERMALINK
I think it's a given that nearly every citizen of the world has rejected the Bush policy of hitting people with a big stick, insulting them, and reserving diplomacy for Israel. Hardly necessary for Obama to comment that change is in the offing.
Posted by: Luther on February 25, 2009 at 8:52 PM | PERMALINK
Kristol's disappointed that once again, he was denied his Earth-shattering ka-boom. (Then again, I've more closely associated Alan Keyes with Bugs Bunny's Martian nemesis. Listen to Keyes speak--if you can stomach it--and you'll know what I mean.)
Posted by: Jeremy B. on February 25, 2009 at 10:29 PM | PERMALINK
Just think if insane McCain were "presnent" that would be all we'd be gearing up for...war with Iran, while our economy went into a full scale depression being led down the tubes by tax cuts for the wealthy and a cutting off Social Security and unemployment benefits. We are all Georgians now eh McCain.
Everytime McCain opens his critically ignorant mouth I am thankful all those Christians prayed that God would deliver us the right leader...and God responded with President Barack Hussein Obama and democratic majorities.
Posted by: bjobotts on February 25, 2009 at 11:47 PM | PERMALINK
MeatHeadRepublican wrote: What they will have soon are atomic bombs. And they're working on a delivery system.
Yeah? Scary! If only we had hundreds of ICBMs and a fleet of ballistic missile systems to deter any nuclear aggression by...oh, wait...
Well, anyway, it's a shame that our nuclear arsenal didn't deter the Soviet Union from nuking...oh, wait...
(By the way, deterrence cuts both ways, jackass. After our debacle in Iraq, not to mention Israel's launch of several bloody invasions of her neighbors, it would be the bloody logical and rational decision for Iran to conclude that it needed a nuclear weapon to deter the US and Israel.)
Paranoia makes you stupid.
Posted by: Gregory on February 26, 2009 at 7:17 AM | PERMALINK