March 6, 2009
EMULATING REAGAN WON'T CUT IT.... For many Republicans, there's an impression that if the party could only convince voters that they're following Ronald Reagan's vision, the public would look more favorably on the modern GOP agenda.
As it turns out, according to a new Fox News poll, that won't work, either.
Are we still a center-right nation, as many Republicans continue to insist? And can the GOP revive itself through a return to the spirit of Ronald Reagan, as Rush Limbaugh has said?
Check out this question from the new Fox News poll: "What do you think the nation's economy needs more of right now -- the economic policies of Ronald Reagan or the economic policies of Barack Obama?"
The answer: Obama 49%, Reagan 40%.
Of course, it's probably worth noting that, as long-time Monthly readers may recall, Reagan's economic policies aren't quite in line with at least some Republicans' memories. Reagan did, after all, raise taxes several times, in order to help offset the costs of increased spending.
So, when some conservatives argue, as the Wall Street Journal's Daniel Henninger did yesterday, that Republicans should "relearn the core idea handed down to them by Ronald Reagan," there's ample room for debate as to what that core idea might be.
In any case, the Republican network's poll didn't offer much in the way of good news for its party. When respondents were asked about Obama's tax plan -- increases on households earning over $250,000 a year, cuts for nearly everyone else -- 66% approved of the idea (even 41% of self-identified Republicans endorsed the White House plan).
And for Ayn Rand fans, there was one other interesting question, flagged by Greg Sargent: "Do you think asking the wealthiest Americans to pay more in taxes is a good idea because it levels the economic and social playing field, or a bad idea because it punishes work and success?"
Despite the wording of the poll, a majority (55%) of the Fox News poll's respondents said it's a good idea to raise taxes on the wealthiest Americans.
The John Galt movement is probably going to struggle a bit.
—Steve Benen 8:00 AM
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Tax the super wealthy! I for one welcome it. TheirOOut-of-work mistresses might begin slumming it a bit and set about doinking some of us upper middle class pond scum for purse money.........
Posted by: steve duncan on March 6, 2009 at 7:56 AM | PERMALINK
I'm sure the Republicans have their marketing department all over this one; another dead hero, economic cycles are random events, starving inspires innovation, a new font, perhaps.
Posted by: Danp on March 6, 2009 at 8:04 AM | PERMALINK
There might be an upturn on this, if FAUX viewers watch Turner Classic Movies, this month, as Saint Ronny is Actor of the Month for March. And, now back to "Bedtime for Bonzo". Well, at least "King's Row" had merit.
Posted by: berttheclock on March 6, 2009 at 8:09 AM | PERMALINK
This am on Kos - Fox has vowed to be in opposition to Obama till the last breath, they will paint him as a communist, socialist and any other thing that they can, this should be read. We really have to fight now, they are getting worried. Also a good piece on Kos about Cramer and stock price manipulation.
Posted by: JS on March 6, 2009 at 8:28 AM | PERMALINK
Republicans might want to find a calander. It's been over 20 years since Reagan was president, yet that's all they can point toward. They're running as fast as they can from W, and they never much cared for his dad. Ford is a lost memory and Nixon remains an embarrassment.
After almost 50 years, all they have is Reagan.
Sad.
Posted by: JoeW on March 6, 2009 at 8:38 AM | PERMALINK
The under 40 crowd asks: Who is Ronald Reagan??????????
Posted by: DAY on March 6, 2009 at 8:45 AM | PERMALINK
To the John Galt movement:
America Shrugged
Posted by: paulo on March 6, 2009 at 8:49 AM | PERMALINK
"The Under 40 crowd..."
You mean the group who believes 'Nam was our War of Independence, and life, as we know it, began in 1969?
Posted by: berttheclock on March 6, 2009 at 8:53 AM | PERMALINK
I'm under 40 (just barely) but, I remember Reagan as only slightly more competent than Dubya and less competent than Bush Sr. He had a gift for plausibly denying knowledge of the various scams and violations of the Constitution that happened on his watch. Republican revisionist have twisted his bullshit into heroic deeds for wich convicted felons like Oliver Borth are now lionized. Where Gonzales gave us "I don't recall", Ronny had that stupid affectation where he would signal that he could not hear probing questions over the roar of helicopter blades, or the clicks of cameras or th scribbling of pencils on pads or the chirps of crickets. The only thing he had going for him is his actor training and his alleged eleoquence.
Reagan's true legacy is his success as a marketing ploy. Reagan was rolled out, marketed, and sold to us like new and improved Tide laundry detergent. The fact that his Voodoo Reaganomic policies were failed and that he actually instituted Keynesian policies is revised out of history by the right wing noise machine.
Leaving us with the current incarnation of Conservatism. Mouth empty platitudes and obsolete talking points but do it with folksy, aw-shucks charm and stupid people will think your the next coming of St. Ronnie and vote aginst their own interest.
Posted by: Winkandanod on March 6, 2009 at 9:22 AM | PERMALINK
"The Under 40 crowd..."
I'm nearly 45, and I've met quite a few "kids" under 40 over the past few years during projects with clients. Some in management, some young professionals. I'll have to say that even the most conservative of them seem to have a healthy view of politics and seem more flexible in their political ideology than the over 40 people I work with.
And... when I am helping companies work on improving operations someone in the older crowd always mentions how "kids these days" need a lot of coddling and praise for just doing their jobs. Invariably these sage observers of human behavior are the biggest, entitlement minded whiners on the teams I have to work with.
Of course, I'm working from a statistically questionable sample size.
Oh yeah, their crazy (jitterbug, rock n roll, heavy metal, punk, hip-hop) music will be the downfall of civilization too.
Posted by: lobbygow on March 6, 2009 at 9:39 AM | PERMALINK
Invariably these sage observers of human behavior are the biggest, entitlement minded whiners on the teams I have to work with.
Ditto that observation. It's one of the obstacles that has, for instance, held the American auto companies back. Crusty old Joe doesn't see why we need to switch to computers when we've always done it by hand, isn't going to be rushed, refuses to work with the new supervisor, isn't going to do it the way Engine Division wants it, and is going to spend most of his working day bitching about the job -- how it was so much better twenty years ago and it's all screwed up now.
Posted by: trex on March 6, 2009 at 9:51 AM | PERMALINK
On the Reagan mythology and how it came to be, Tear Down This Myth by Will Bunch is a must read.
Posted by: jayackroyd on March 6, 2009 at 9:52 AM | PERMALINK
One less-known point about Reagan gets little attention: he prompted having capital gains rates being closer to regular income rates ("broadening the base") - but today's donor-rewarding ReRushlickin' hacks want to drop cap gains taxes entirely, pretending that such hurts "the people who create jobs" (even though trading like that doesn't create jobs anyway, and the biggest salaries go to those who cut jobs.
Reagan wasn't great like conservatives say, but he was still better than they are now.
Posted by: Neil B ☺ on March 6, 2009 at 10:00 AM | PERMALINK
Is it possible to point out that very few people that make over $250k/year do so by the sweat of their own brow? Even lawyers hire assistants to do some of their work, and charge the client more than the assistant gets paid. And guess what? As the unemployment rate goes up, the amount you have to pay these assistants goes down. So even in bad times, the unemployed provide a service to the employers and business owners.
Posted by: tomj on March 6, 2009 at 10:28 AM | PERMALINK
Ronald Reagan? We learned about him in history class. He was an actor, spent a lot of money on weapons, founded star wars defense, wouldn't deal with the AIDS epidemic, and fell asleep alot.
I would not trust him or his crew with the economy. Obama and his staff are so much more qualified to run the country than any in recent history.
When will the republicans learn that education matters? And that advanced degrees indicate that person has a thought process that, while you may disagree with what they think (CF Newt), is a step or two more rigorous those with a bachelors.
By dissing education and research they have doomed their party.
Posted by: Kurt on March 6, 2009 at 12:56 PM | PERMALINK