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March 19, 2009

REMAINDER TABLE, HERE IT COMES.... Former President Bush has never exactly been a book lover, per se, but that won't stop him from hiring a ghost writer playing the role of author for the first time.

As widely expected, former President George W. Bush, like many past occupants of the Oval Office, is writing a book. But rather than delivering a more traditional presidential memoir, Mr. Bush plans to explain 12 difficult personal and political decisions he has made.

Mr. Bush mentioned the book Tuesday in his first speech since leaving office, delivered in Calgary, Alberta. The book, tentatively titled "Decision Points," is to be published in 2010 by Crown Publishing Group, a division of Random House.

According to Robert B. Barnett, the Washington lawyer who negotiated the deal with Crown on Mr. Bush's behalf, the book will cover Mr. Bush's decisions relating to Sept. 11, the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq and the government's response to Hurricane Katrina. Mr. Barnett said Mr. Bush would also write about why he ran for president, his decision to quit drinking, his discovery of religious faith, and his relationships with his parents, wife and siblings.

Bush reportedly signed a $7 million deal for the book. Alex Koppelman noted that this is obviously a lot of money, but not in the broader context: "It's $5 million less than Bill Clinton got for his memoir, $1 million less than Hillary Clinton got for hers and even $2 million less than former British Prime Minister Tony Blair."

I'm a little surprised Bush was able to get as much as he did for a book that almost certainly won't fly off the shelves.

For one thing, the former president isn't exactly known for candor and honesty. Who's going to pony up $29.95 for a book written by someone who can't be trusted?

For another, what are the odds that Bush's book will include juicy, heretofore unknown revelations? Or even fascinating behind-the-scenes insights?

Perhaps most importantly, it's hard to imagine there being any meaningful demand for the former president's thoughts on key decisions. It's hardly a secret that practically all of his big decisions turned out to be a mistake, if not completely disastrous. Is there really a market for reliving the details of one man's misguided judgment? Won't most book buyers prefer to forget these decisions? It doesn't exactly scream, "Best seller."

The book will apparently be titled, "Decision Points." I'm sure we can come up with better titles than that. Any suggestions?

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Great timing: It's due to be published in Fall 2010. Just in time to remind people of the Bush administration in advance of the conressional elections.

Posted by: Rob M on March 19, 2009 at 4:37 PM | PERMALINK

"It's Clinton's Fault"

Posted by: Jon on March 19, 2009 at 4:38 PM | PERMALINK

What I Shouldn't Have Done (too easy? too easy.)

Posted by: Trevor J on March 19, 2009 at 4:39 PM | PERMALINK

_Did I Do That?_
_History Will Judge Me (and Here's What It Will Say)_

I'm sure there are other possibilities...

Posted by: Michael Mock on March 19, 2009 at 4:40 PM | PERMALINK

"Why Bad Things Happened to You People"

Posted by: Jor-El Six-Pack on March 19, 2009 at 4:42 PM | PERMALINK

I'm sure he'd know better than to do this, but how about "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"

Posted by: essrog on March 19, 2009 at 4:44 PM | PERMALINK

The Decider

Strateegery

Numb Nuts

Smirk

Do Nothing but Talk a Big Game

I'm a Dipshit but my handlers promote me as something more than I am and stupid people believe it

Ideology Trumps Competence

If you Can't Articulate, Politicize

Posted by: QuestionEverything on March 19, 2009 at 4:44 PM | PERMALINK

- Indecision Points

- Corruption Points

- Decision Points, and the Deciderer who deciderered them

- How to Lose friends and influence people

Posted by: firefall on March 19, 2009 at 4:45 PM | PERMALINK

Will Ferrell already pegged it: "You're Welcome, America."

I'm waiting for Cheney's book to be called "My Pet President."

Posted by: calling all toasters on March 19, 2009 at 4:46 PM | PERMALINK

"The Contrarian's Guide to the Presidency -- How NOT to make decisions in the Oval Office"

Posted by: SteveT on March 19, 2009 at 4:46 PM | PERMALINK

your post would be a little more credible if you actually made any comments based on fact. It's a shame the American public gets all their news from Jon Stewart and Keith O.

Posted by: Stephanie on March 19, 2009 at 4:46 PM | PERMALINK

I Broke It, You Bought It

Everybody Poops 2

Ultimately, It's Your Fault

Redacted

The Adventures of George and Dick, a 3D Coloring Experience

Incurious George

Posted by: doubtful on March 19, 2009 at 4:47 PM | PERMALINK

"Bigtime"

Posted by: ExBrit on March 19, 2009 at 4:47 PM | PERMALINK

"My Struggle"

Posted by: orogeny on March 19, 2009 at 4:47 PM | PERMALINK

"The book will apparently be titled, "Decision Points." I'm sure we can come up with better titles than that. Any suggestions?"

In the Shadow of Dick: The Story of My Life With the Real President

Posted by: Vertigo on March 19, 2009 at 4:47 PM | PERMALINK

Dippy Dozen; Twelve Shortsighted Decisions and how they Helped Ruin America

Posted by: rusrus on March 19, 2009 at 4:48 PM | PERMALINK

"Idiot's Guide to the Presidency"

Posted by: PCC on March 19, 2009 at 4:48 PM | PERMALINK

"Kiss My Grits"

Posted by: El Tiburon on March 19, 2009 at 4:51 PM | PERMALINK

Just change one letter: "Derision Points"

Posted by: Nick on March 19, 2009 at 4:51 PM | PERMALINK

This isn't his first 'book'. He 'wrote' an autobio when running for president.

Karen Hughes actually wrote it.

She'll write this one too.

Posted by: JoyceH on March 19, 2009 at 4:51 PM | PERMALINK

"Decidering Right and Wrong"

Posted by: eric on March 19, 2009 at 4:51 PM | PERMALINK

I like PCC's suggestion (@ 4:48), but I was thinking more along the lines of:

The Presidency and Ideology for Dummies

Posted by: Michael W on March 19, 2009 at 4:51 PM | PERMALINK

What, me worry?

Posted by: Danp on March 19, 2009 at 4:52 PM | PERMALINK

Mr. Bush plans to explain 12 difficult personal and political decisions he has made

* Step 1 - We admitted we were powerless over our addiction - that our lives had become unmanageable
* Step 2 - Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity
* Step 3 - Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood God
* Step 4 - Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves
* Step 5 - Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs
* Step 6 - Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character
* Step 7 - Humbly asked God to remove our shortcomings
* Step 8 - Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all
* Step 9 - Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others
* Step 10 - Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it
* Step 11 - Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood God, praying only for knowledge of God's will for us and the power to carry that out
* Step 12 - Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to other addicts, and to practice these principles in all our affairs

Posted by: osama_been_forgotteno on March 19, 2009 at 4:52 PM | PERMALINK

Not a best seller? Please, the right wingers know how to get their books onto the NYT best seller list. They buy a zillion of them and then give them away. Poof...best seller.

What a sham.

My title: My Pet Project: How I Decimated the Once Mighty United States of America

Posted by: MsJoanne on March 19, 2009 at 4:53 PM | PERMALINK

Alas, "Brain Droppings" has already been taken.

Posted by: RollaMO on March 19, 2009 at 4:55 PM | PERMALINK

Also , from all I've seen, he's ridiculously unreflective.

"Sh*t happened and I was there and I guess i made that decision but can't really remember how or why, so I'll create a backstory that sounds good now."

Posted by: riffle on March 19, 2009 at 4:55 PM | PERMALINK

As to the title of this post, I'm not sure the remainder table is where these things are headed.

Currator: I'm afraid there's been some mistake, Mr. President, you see, every book in your library is your book, Decision Points, but with a different jacket on it.

George: That's no mistake, heh heh; it's the only way I can get people to read it, heh heh.

On second thought, George Bush would never speak a semi-colon.

Posted by: doubtful on March 19, 2009 at 4:55 PM | PERMALINK

"The Cheney Made Me Do It"

Posted by: whichwitch on March 19, 2009 at 4:56 PM | PERMALINK

Tortured Logic

Posted by: The Answer Is Green on March 19, 2009 at 4:57 PM | PERMALINK

"Clearing Bush"

Posted by: nuttylittlenutnut on March 19, 2009 at 4:58 PM | PERMALINK

It's good to know you all never let facts get in the way of a good story, keep on telling your lies about Bush. History will prove him right

Posted by: Stephanie on March 19, 2009 at 4:58 PM | PERMALINK

I wonder if Beavis and Butthead will do the audio version of Bush's book. ;-)

Posted by: MsJoanne on March 19, 2009 at 4:59 PM | PERMALINK

5) "ok, so you've covered your ass"
4) "Turdblossom and me"
3) "Oedipus can kiss my ass"
2) "You're either with me or you're with the terrorist"
1) "Bin Laden Determined to Stike in US. Now What?"

Posted by: bcinaz on March 19, 2009 at 5:02 PM | PERMALINK

War and Deceit

Posted by: Noam Sane on March 19, 2009 at 5:03 PM | PERMALINK

You go Steph, we know Bush was one of the greatest of all time, it just those damn liberals with their facts and evidence

Posted by: nuttylittlenutnut on March 19, 2009 at 5:04 PM | PERMALINK

Eenie, meenie, miney, moe

Posted by: Moe on March 19, 2009 at 5:04 PM | PERMALINK

With apologies to J. Michael Straczynski, here's how you get a bestseller out of this memoir:

BUSH: EVIL ALIENS RAN MY WHITE HOUSE
In his new memoir, George W. Bush revealed that many of his decisions as president were forced on him by a mysterious alien race known only as "The Shadows."

Sending instructions from their homeworld of Z'ha'dum by way of their dark minion, Vice President Dick Cheney, the Shadows attached a parasitic alien "keeper" to the president that forced him to comply with their wishes, says the controversial former Commander-in-Chief.

"They're a species of evil," said Bush.

Bush claims he was only able to get free of Shadow influence and reveal their existence after the intervention of another alien race, of whom Bush knows little but says "They looked like angels."

"I never wanted to invade Iraq on such flimsy evidence," said Bush. "And torture? I didn't even like hazing in my Yale days. Makes me queasy in the stomach. But there I was, approving every damn fool thing Cheney put in front of me."

"The Shadows, they did this to me, and to all of us," said Bush. The former president called for coordinated international action to fight the Shadow menace and their servants, the Drakh.

"But if the U.N. doesn't act, the United States should take action" to attack Z'ha'dum, said Bush, adding "It's worked before."

Posted by: Eyescribe on March 19, 2009 at 5:06 PM | PERMALINK

you go ahead nut keep thinking that, and we all can watch you drive this Country into the ground

Posted by: Stephanie on March 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM | PERMALINK

Chapter 1: Can I Pull Off Pretending To Be A Rancher While Being Afraid Of Large Animals? could be interesting

I'm also looking forward to Chapter 2, How Do I Explain Away The Bulge? and
Chapter 5: Just One More Pretzel???.

Posted by: N.Wells on March 19, 2009 at 5:09 PM | PERMALINK

"Point of Failur"

Posted by: cheem on March 19, 2009 at 5:11 PM | PERMALINK

Who is going to pay $29.95 for a coloring book?

Posted by: canuck on March 19, 2009 at 5:11 PM | PERMALINK

"Armageddon in 12 Steps"

Posted by: Antonius on March 19, 2009 at 5:13 PM | PERMALINK

you go ahead nut keep thinking that, and we all can watch you drive this Country into the ground

In fact, that's just what George W. Bush spent the last eight years doing, and now what the grownups and non-criminals among us have to work at undoing.

Perhaps you've missed the news about the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, or the absence of WMD's in Iraq and the one million dead as a result of the invasion? No? How about the felonies committed by the Oval Office in authorizing torture and spying on the American public? Doesn't ring a bell?

Posted by: trex on March 19, 2009 at 5:14 PM | PERMALINK

THE DECIDER

Why I don't have to explain jack s**t to nobody!

By George W. Bush

Posted by: UncommonSense on March 19, 2009 at 5:14 PM | PERMALINK

Eyescribe;
At least he didn't name the Department of Homeland Security: "The Night Watch" . . .

Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on March 19, 2009 at 5:15 PM | PERMALINK

Bush's Recollections: The Diary of a Madman

Posted by: BobC on March 19, 2009 at 5:15 PM | PERMALINK

Can Stephanoe just get raptured already?
She's obviously delusional.
Bush sucked, get over it.
This is the wrong place to post your 'pro bush' drivel.

Posted by: vwmeggs on March 19, 2009 at 5:18 PM | PERMALINK

Title's fine -- how about this for the jacket cover:
http://www.greatdreams.com/planes/bush-finger.jpg

Posted by: scott_m on March 19, 2009 at 5:18 PM | PERMALINK

Hey Trex, if you were a grown up you would actually read and do some thinking on your own instead of believing everything you hear, then you would realize all the lies you are being told. But as I said, history will be the judge, it's just a shame all you loons are ruining this Country. Keep marching in lock step. If you really wanted to know the truth you would actually study history.

Posted by: Stephanie on March 19, 2009 at 5:21 PM | PERMALINK

Oh sorry you all just want to hear other the opinions of people who agree with you. That's a good system, prevents you from actually thinking for yourself.

Posted by: Stephanie on March 19, 2009 at 5:23 PM | PERMALINK

Profiles In My Own Courage

Posted by: bobbo on March 19, 2009 at 5:24 PM | PERMALINK

"Just Call Me God" by GW Bush & Stephanie

Posted by: whichwitch on March 19, 2009 at 5:28 PM | PERMALINK

"Fuck ups"

or

"Oops, I did it again!"

Cheers,

Alan Tomlinson

Posted by: Alan Tomlinson on March 19, 2009 at 5:29 PM | PERMALINK

Only question about Mr. Bush's book is how long will it take to color in?

Posted by: Kerr Lockhart on March 19, 2009 at 5:32 PM | PERMALINK

Oh sorry you all just want to hear other the opinions of people who agree with you. That's a good system, prevents you from actually thinking for yourself.

No, no, Stephanie, we want to hear more of your exquisitely expressed "independent thinking." Lay it on us, sugar.

Best I can do without an afternoon cuppa joe:

Just 500 Damn Pieces of Paper
Now I'm a Writerer
History, We Don't Know. We'll All Be Dead, So Read This Quick
Offender in Chief
They Hate Us for Our Freedoms. So Do I.
A Tap Upon the Wire (with apologies to Chesterton)

Posted by: shortstop on March 19, 2009 at 5:35 PM | PERMALINK

"Psycho"

Posted by: Vokoban on March 19, 2009 at 5:40 PM | PERMALINK

"Why Government Doesn't Work and How I Proved It"

Posted by: Wacky Librul on March 19, 2009 at 5:41 PM | PERMALINK

10 Easy Steps To Seducing German Women of Authority

Buying The Perfect Flightsuit

The Better Homes and Gardens Guide to Book Cooking

Beneath The Podium: My Time With Jeff Gannon

Misunderestimated

Posted by: doubtful on March 19, 2009 at 5:52 PM | PERMALINK

Bush, George W. Hehehehe -- Fooled Ya! Paraguay: Non-Extradition Publishing, 2010.

Posted by: oy on March 19, 2009 at 5:57 PM | PERMALINK

10 Easy Steps To Seducing German Women of Authority

Did you hear my unladylike snort of great mirth all the way out in the 'burbs, babe?

Posted by: shortstop on March 19, 2009 at 6:05 PM | PERMALINK

How I wrecked a country in less than 10 years (without even trying).

Posted by: slanted tom on March 19, 2009 at 6:12 PM | PERMALINK

How about "I'm the Decider And You're Not, [insert insulting nickname here]."

Posted by: Sal Hepatica on March 19, 2009 at 6:14 PM | PERMALINK

"Why Republicans shouldn't be given power with 12 exclaimation points"

Posted by: vwmeggs on March 19, 2009 at 6:16 PM | PERMALINK

"Presidenting is Hard Work"

Posted by: DrGail on March 19, 2009 at 6:25 PM | PERMALINK

"What Dicks We Were"

Posted by: armchair psychologist on March 19, 2009 at 6:30 PM | PERMALINK

"My Pet Gloat"

Posted by: consider wisely always on March 19, 2009 at 6:34 PM | PERMALINK

I'm a little surprised Bush was able to get as much as he did [...] -- Steve Benen

A dollar doesn't buy quite as much as it used to, anymore. And who knows how much of it will have to be paid to the "ghost"...

My own contribution to the title challenge:
"I Fought the Law and I Won"

Posted by: exlibra on March 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM | PERMALINK

"I'm a little surprised Bush was able to get as much as he did for a book that almost certainly won't fly off the shelves."

You're forgetting all the books the fake RightWing front groups will buy in bulk, just as they do for all RightWing authors, to make their book sales look good.

Posted by: Joe Friday on March 19, 2009 at 6:44 PM | PERMALINK

"Malice in Blunderland".

Posted by: pzkfw4usa on March 19, 2009 at 6:50 PM | PERMALINK

"It Wasn't Me!"

God, how unappealing. An entire book of self-justification.

Posted by: g on March 19, 2009 at 7:04 PM | PERMALINK

"The March of Folly II"

Posted by: matt on March 19, 2009 at 7:11 PM | PERMALINK

Fool Me Twice

Posted by: Common Sense on March 19, 2009 at 7:17 PM | PERMALINK

In an interview, Bush refers to his book as being "authoritarian" - heh. A "neoconal-freudian slip" as http://watergatesummer.blogspot.com/2009/03/bushs-authoritarian-book-that-he-is.html puts it.

Posted by: Neil B ☺ on March 19, 2009 at 7:43 PM | PERMALINK

I disagree with all those people who think that wingnut welfare will kick in with bulk sales. Bush is of no use to them anymore, they'll invest in "up-and-comers" and people with vague academic credentials. Plus Bush was never really conservative to begin with, donchaknow?

Still that's a good title.

Be a Real Conservative: Do as I say not as I did!

Posted by: gordbrown on March 19, 2009 at 7:51 PM | PERMALINK

"Miserable Failure"

Posted by: joel hanes on March 19, 2009 at 8:08 PM | PERMALINK

"W.: This book will be so much better in 100 years when history has judged me to be a success"

Posted by: Ben on March 19, 2009 at 8:26 PM | PERMALINK

Bush has already written 30,000 words. No verbs though, since verbs require action.

(Joke from Olbermann just now.)

Posted by: a different phil on March 19, 2009 at 9:00 PM | PERMALINK

Stephanie seems to know something about the Bush Presidency that we don't. Too bad she won't actually share the details with us.

What I don't get is Bush pretends he's totally unconcerned about how history will view him, but he and his dead-enders sure are trying hard to convince us he was a good president. I can't wait to see his Presidental LIEbrary.

Posted by: Mike on March 19, 2009 at 9:43 PM | PERMALINK

"Holy War, Wholly Whore"

Posted by: MissMudd on March 19, 2009 at 9:57 PM | PERMALINK

Condoleeza Rice was interviewed on Charlie Rose yesterday. She points out that "history has a long tail." Harry Truman once had popularity ratings as low as Bush, but is now recognized as one of our greatest presidents. We're too close to those turbulent Bush times.

Posted by: Luther on March 19, 2009 at 9:58 PM | PERMALINK

Hey Luther, then be sure to tell all your conservative friends that they can't criticize Obama, since we're even closer to his Presidency. And BTW, enjoy Obama on Leno tonight, having his act much more together than Bush ever could.

Heh, Condi trying to get out of admitting what a mess they made together, she and her "husb .. I mean ...".

Posted by: Neil B ♪ ♫ on March 19, 2009 at 10:07 PM | PERMALINK

Here's my contribution: "Missed Bets."

Posted by: Lynn Dee on March 19, 2009 at 10:46 PM | PERMALINK

Anyone noticed that this proposal from Bush is nothing more than a rehash of Nixon's "Six Crises"? Another piece of self-deception from a failed politician who could never overcome his own inadequacies.

Posted by: Henry on March 20, 2009 at 12:18 AM | PERMALINK

"Keeping the Myth Alive"

"The Twelve Decisions...One For Each Juror"

"12 Decisions That Screwed a Nation"

"Dancing, Sleeping & 12 Decisions"

"The Twelve Deciders"

"Looking For The Decider"

"12 Decisions That Put Me In Prison".

After all the death and destruction...the horror and corruption...the shame and contempt...brought to us by this man, who cares about his justifications or some book he puts out to "fill the old coffers". This man deserves to be in prison...not paid for speeches or books. He's the modern American Maggot.

Posted by: joey on March 20, 2009 at 12:46 AM | PERMALINK

"...Step 9 - Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others..."

Hahahahaha. Now that's a joke

Posted by: joey on March 20, 2009 at 12:49 AM | PERMALINK

"Big Hat, No Cattle"
"Big Snake, No Rattle"
"Big Guns, No Battle"
"Big Boat, No Paddle"

Posted by: smuggler on March 20, 2009 at 1:45 AM | PERMALINK

pzkfw4usa wins, hands down: "Malice in Blunderland" it is, whatever Shrub winds up calling it.

Posted by: allbetsareoff on March 20, 2009 at 2:43 AM | PERMALINK

"Churchill wrote a five-volume book about himself and called it 'The World Crisis'" - David Lloyd George

Or he could follow the lead set by some other renowned leaders:

Profiles in Couragery

Six Crises II: This Time It's Crisiser

Kool-Aid In Europe

A History of the Gibberish-Speaking Peoples

Shto Delal? [What Did I Do?]

Posted by: ajay on March 20, 2009 at 5:34 AM | PERMALINK

"Two Termer: Bite This, Daddy!"

Posted by: howie on March 20, 2009 at 6:55 AM | PERMALINK

Bush didn't make any decisions and we all know it. He's got a ghost writer writing about decisions made by ghost decision makers.

Posted by: Varecia on March 20, 2009 at 8:02 AM | PERMALINK

Screw America

How I Terrorized the World

A Terrorist on the Throne

The Real Terrorist

Righteous Terror

Royal Terror

Evil Is Out There

Crown Publishing Group? Full marks for irony.

Posted by: Goldilocks on March 20, 2009 at 8:09 AM | PERMALINK

God Did It

Posted by: Goldilocks on March 20, 2009 at 8:20 AM | PERMALINK

12 points - Sounds as though he is still in a 12 step program. "The Bonfires Caused by My Vanities".

However, $29.95? Would rather have a Bass-o-matic or an Earl Scheib paint job.

Posted by: berttheclock on March 20, 2009 at 9:27 AM | PERMALINK

I have a question- will this book be a coloring book or a pop-up book?

Posted by: ?? on March 20, 2009 at 9:42 AM | PERMALINK

Harry Truman once had popularity ratings as low as Bush, but is now recognized as one of our greatest presidents. We're too close to those turbulent Bush times.

Bush isn't Truman, he's Hoover and Nixon combined.

Posted by: Allan Snyder on March 20, 2009 at 9:44 AM | PERMALINK

"Watch This Drive"
"I Misoverestimated Me"
"Constitution This!"

Posted by: short fuse on March 20, 2009 at 11:04 AM | PERMALINK

"The Gospel According to St. George"

"In His Steps: What Would Dick Do?"

"Valley of the Dullards"

"The Joy of Cooking the Books"

"War and More War"

"Crime and No Punishment"

"The Seven Habits of High Defective People"

Posted by: Mandy Cat on March 20, 2009 at 11:33 AM | PERMALINK

Finding the Pony

Posted by: LL on March 20, 2009 at 11:59 AM | PERMALINK

Choosing Catastrophe

The Decider's Deadly Dozen Duds

Yeah, I passed out because of a pretzel

Puppet: The "Bush" years.

Decision: tax cuts

Posted by: Scott L on March 20, 2009 at 12:14 PM | PERMALINK

"What I Did On My Eight Year Vacation"

"The Ditzy Dozen"

"Please Get Fooled Again"

Posted by: nicteis on March 20, 2009 at 1:18 PM | PERMALINK

Bush isn't Truman, he's Hoover and Nixon combined.

With a soupcon of Harding and a dash of LBJ.

Posted by: shortstop on March 20, 2009 at 1:24 PM | PERMALINK

"Decision Points"? How about "Delusion Points".

Posted by: Barry M on March 20, 2009 at 4:11 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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