Maybe Cheney's request was classified and the CIA can't even acknowledge its existence? Heh!

Cheney is a living (sort of) personification of the old joke:

Q: How do you know when Dick Cheney's lying?

A: His lips are moving.

"Cheney doesn't have to be in office to combine ridiculous secrecy with transparent dishonesty."
But he still gets plenty of face time in the media to throw mud and distract attention....because why?

Cheney is engaging in his standard rewriting of the truth.
As has been regularly reported during the two terms of his maladministration, there were several nefarious plots that were stopped -- upon closer examination these turned out to be chimera.
Under torture, people will confess to the Albigensian Crusade, if asked whether they were responsible - and Cheney has oodles of such confessions, feeding his paranoia and providing justification for his mad actions.

Funny, I've seen more of Cheney in the past 2 weeks
then I've in the past 2 years.
He still thinks he's in charge.
Go away sick old man.

Cheney should be reminded of the ancient parable.

Be careful what you wish for

Or, the modified Murphy's Law.

"Whenever Cheney does it, it's bound to go wrong"

Apparently, using very formal language, Cheney submitted the request to the CIA in the form of a hand-written entry in his personal diary.

Hint: a "formal request" is generally differentiated from an "informal request" by the mechanism for the request: using a formally defined process versus calling an old friend. Given that Cheney refuses to identify the mechanism used, it is highly unlikely that his request was made formally.

The only logical exception to this is if Cheney doesn't want to add undue pressure on the *recipient* of the formal request to answer that request. But then, he wouldn't be blabbing about the request on a nationally-aired infomercial, would he?

He needs to go back to Wyoming and help his wife beat off the Indians and help jack off the horse.

god damn dick cheney's shit-filled soul to hell.

There was a report a few weeks back regarding a 'Cheney operative' still in the CIA who was feeding the former VP foreign intelligence briefs. After a futile search, I can't find it, but perhaps someone here remembers it?

Anyway, this might be Cheney's 'formal' link to the CIA.

If Cheney made such a request it would have been by asking a burrowed Bushie to leak documents to the NYT. He would still call it a "formal request" because he was wearing a tie when he made the call - well, or because the truth is irrelevant to him.

Cheney is scared of being prosecuted. So he is appearing on TV pre-emptively arguing that the crimes he committed were only because he loved us, and wanted us not to explode.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Oh, and the 'ticking time bomb' kept on ticking for a month, until KSM confessed the location after the 183rd waterboard.

Every time that guy speaks I weep.

Weep, that is, tears of joy, knowing he is no longer in office.

Cheney told that whopper believing that most MSM outlets would repeat it without checking its accuracy, quickly turning it into accepted truth.

Was he wrong about that?

Going forward, any mention of the torture memos will be met with, "Yeah, but the CIA -- under Obama's instruction -- refuses to release the memos showing that torturing people works."

I didn't have to make a single phone call to determine that everything Cheney said is a lie.

First of all, yeah, it's total BS. But it's also another example of the Bushies tossing national security around like a political football. Let's say we actually learned something useful through torture: an al Qaida plot, a strategy, the location of sleeper cells, etc. Cheney would have the CIA make that information public just to prove a political point? What a dangerous asshole. And he pulled this kind of crap all the time as VP.

I can decide if Cheney is playing chicken with the administration or if his think is so convoluted that he actually believes what he did and authorized was right, good and legal.

Of course it could be both.

Either way I just wish he would go away. I know he is worried about his reputation (much more than Bush obviously) but please. Right now no one care about what Cheney has to say so any yammering on his part just looks pathetic and is likely doing him more harm than good.

First the right wing is up in arms that the Obama administration made torture memos public, now the right wings wants the Obama administration to make more torture memos public?

Maybe he sent an engraved invitation to release the memos and doesn't want to divulge the target until a proper RSVP is made;>

You've got to love the idea of Cheney's filing a FOIA request, though, just for the sheer irony of it.

Once a prick... er... a Dick, always a Dick. When's his next stent replacement due?

Cheney told that whopper believing that most MSM outlets would repeat it without checking its accuracy, quickly turning it into accepted truth.

Was he wrong about that? - shortstop

Actually Norah O'Donnell also reported that NBC checked with the CIA and without giving any credit to Greg Sargent, essentially confirmed his story.

So, Dick Cheney is a vicious lying thug. We already know this.

I believe that under the Constitution ex-Vice Presidents have as much "formal" power as a day-old bucket of spit.

I have formally requested that Dick Cheney be sent to the Hague for trial. Fat lot of good it's done me.

I've known Dick Cheney since December 1968; he was a liar then and is a liar still!

The spokesperson was willing to say that Cheney made a "formal request" to the CIA "at the end of March,"

At the end of March? That's interesting. The OLC memos weren't in the news then. Why would Mr. Cheney ask for declassification of the reports?

Perhaps he simply guessed correctly that the Obama administration was contemplating a release?

Cheney should be reminded of the ancient parable.
Be careful what you wish for
Or, the modified Murphy's Law.
"Whenever Cheney does it, it's bound to go wrong"

Whatever Cheney does, it's bound to BE wrong.

Wow, Danp. Let me know when we have more than one MSM outlet doing this.

Smoke and mirrors.

Cheney "formally asks" the CIA to disclose information that proves torture works.

The CIA does not respond.

Does that mean Cheney lied about asking? ORRRRR, does it mean the CIA doesn't want to disclose that information because it's just so darn sensitive to the ongoing war on terrrrrrr, and to disclose it is to hate our troops, thus meaning the CIA refused Cheney's oh-so-formal request? After all, just because there's no evidence of a thing doesn't mean that thing doesn't or never did exist. Cheney asked! Formally! And the CIA said no. There. Case closed. To assume anything else is to make Yoo a traitor...I mean, you a traitor to the Republican Parrr....I mean, to the United States.

I speculate, Fox decides.

Interesting question... is an FOIA request like anti-matter to Cheney? Would he be annihilated in a gamma-ray flash if he were to touch one?

There was a report a few weeks back regarding a 'Cheney operative' still in the CIA who was feeding the former VP foreign intelligence briefs. After a futile search, I can't find it, but perhaps someone here remembers it?

Anybody know what Cheney is officially doing now? If he's not some sort of consultant, he can't have a current security clearance, so if someone is feeding him classified information that someone is in a whole lot of official hurt. If the Democrats had any balls, that is.

But while he HAD the power to declassify those same
memos, to show how well torture works, he never got around to doing so.

We already know he was perfectly happy doing de-classification of pieces for political reasons,
viz. Scooter Libby.

Now, out of office, he wants
to declassify them ... right.

They aren't there, and he knows it.

Cheney's grumblings and mumblings continue to get airtime on all the major networks, yet the story of the Pentagon Propaganda Machine gets a Pulitzer and . . . .nothing.

Is the Machine still functioning?

unhinged

Lying rat bastard.

First the right wing is up in arms that the Obama administration made torture memos public, now the right wings wants the Obama administration to make more torture memos public?

Even Rush Limbaugh was making this exact case today-- first he argued that Obama was making us LESS SAFE by releasing the memos and that WHEN, not if, we get another terrorist attack that it will be ALL OBAMA's FAULT. All because Obama released the memos. Yup, not because torture happened but because we're coming clean about it.

However, a minute later he said that everything should be declassified, put it all out there, because, well, um, Cheney said torture works and therefore it's true. Rush went on and on about how "everybody knows torture works." Then he'd turn around and say that nothing we did was torture.

This is nothing more than Cheney trying to cover his ass in case he's supeanoed to testify. The right is happy to help in any way that they can, especially if it involves blaming Obama for terrorist attacks that haven't happened-- attacks that Rush sounded like he wants to happen just so they can be used to tear down Obama. Beck and Hannity were singing the exact same song today.

Sick fucks, all of them.

Cheney is incapable of telling the truth. He is still making claims that were debunked, including Saddam had WMD, years ago.

Furthermore regardless whether torture works (it doesn't) it is illegal (and immoral.) Therein that renders Cheney's argument moot.

Cheney was so paranoid that in-case of a chemical attack he kept a protective suit in the VP car at all times. One would think he would have more than one. But when asked Cheney answered, "no." (not even an extra one for his driver).

That anecdote stuck in my mind because it so indicative of Cheney's character.

Cheney cares about one thing and one thing only: himself.

The majority of Americans know he will lie, cheat and/or use whatever means possible to achieve his end goals. So it is difficult to reconcile, after losing all credibility, how anyone could take him seriously. But we can always count on Fox to perpetuate the myth.

There's a great piece in Rolling Stone a few years on Cheney and his mishappening career.

Q. How do you know Cheney is Lying?
A. He is still breathing.

"I've now formally asked the CIA to take steps to declassify those memos so we can lay them out there and the American people have a chance to see what we obtained and what we learned and how good the intelligence was, as well as to see this debate over the legal opinions,"

That dick is a legend in his on mind. His patently ridickulous claim is the Fucksnews equivalant of a Jedi mind trick.

"I've now formally asked the CIA to take steps to declassify those memos so we can lay them out there and the American people have a chance to see what we obtained and what we learned and how good the intelligence was, as well as to see this debate over the legal opinions,"

In Cheney's reality, this statement, made to Fucksnews, is a formal request for the CIA to declassify all memos.

Who knew? Get under Dick Cheney's skin and suddenly he is ready to declassify documents left and right.

It's a shame we didn't know that when we were trying to get documents from the Bush administration and he was sitting on them.

What I want, more than almost anything else in the world, is to see Dick Cheney get waterboarded a couple hundred times. Get him to confess on video that he's had carnal knowledge of a goat, kidnapped a few neighborhood children and sold them into slavery, hand-delivered a vial of weaponized ebola viri to Hamas, urinated in a basin of holy water at the Vatican, etc, and post it on YouTube.
Is that wrong of me?

There's been an update over at plumline: the National Archives have confirmed that Cheney did, in fact, submit a formal request to them.

what me worry?

Dick®