April 22, 2009
CILLIZZA HEARTS DRUDGE.... I tend to read the Washington Post's Chris Cillizza regularly, and he frequently offers some pretty reliable reporting, but it's items like these that I find frustrating.
Loyal Fix readers know that we follow the movements of one Matt Drudge -- and his eponymous Web site -- quite closely.
Why? Because, despite any number of critics across the media sphere, Drudge's site remains a powerhouse of political news influence -- driving and influencing daily coverage.
If you doubt that statement, go back and trace where the hubbub over the handshake between Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez and President Obama began. Or where the controversy around Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano's comments about radical right wing groups started.
As a self-proclaimed Drudgeologist, we were very interested to read....
Look, I get the argument. Major traditional news outlets keep hitting refresh at Drudge's site, effectively using him as an assignment editor. For some political reporters, including Cillizza, the idea is to keep reading Drudge so you know what the cool kids are going to be talking about. And how do you know? Because they're all reading Drudge, too.
The frustrating part, of course, is that Cillizza doesn't seem to appreciate the circular, self-fulfilling nature of the argument. Drudge, the theory goes, is a "powerhouse." Why? Because the powerful (political reporters and producers with large audiences) read his site and follow his lead. This, in turn, gives Drudge more power, which makes more political reporters read his site and follow his lead. Lather, rinse, repeat.
But this is an awful way to do political journalism. Consider the examples Cillizza provides. Was there anything remotely shocking about two heads of state shaking hands at an international gathering? Of course not, but Drudge said it was a big deal and the sheep followed. Was there anything at all unusual about domestic security officials raising concerns about domestic terrorism at the hands of potentially violent extremists? Not in the slightest, but Drudge said it was important, and that's what mattered.
Drudge "drives and influences daily coverage" because the political establishment says so. That's just crazy.
Here's a radical idea for Drudgeologists: the next time he says a story is important, ask yourself why it's important. If the answer is "because Drudge says so," perhaps you should consider reading some different websites for a while.
—Steve Benen 4:00 PM
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"If you doubt that statement, go back and trace where the hubbub over the handshake between Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez and President Obama began. Or where the controversy around Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano's comments about radical right wing groups started."
Yeah, all of the things the american people could give a sh*t about.
Posted by: James G on April 22, 2009 at 4:07 PM | PERMALINK
perhaps you should consider reading some different websites for a while.
Or perhaps they should begin to practice real journalism. Nah, that's too hard and honest.
Posted by: ckelly on April 22, 2009 at 4:08 PM | PERMALINK
I think very good advice, but I wish that the progressive bloggers I follow would also follow it. As your later entry quotes Ambinder, the Republicans are not a serious party now, but they are serious and frightfully successful in distraction. Look at the other entries here today -- responding to Karl Rove, Pence, etc. Let's not waste our time.
Let's have some real coverage of the provisions under discussion for a healthcare plan, the debate over Afghanistan and Pakistan, progress on clean energy initiatives, status of financial and auto bailouts and the impact of all of these on real people.
There is a lot of work to be done and lots to discuss and get informed about.
Posted by: Bruce on April 22, 2009 at 4:14 PM | PERMALINK
This post helps explain why the traditional media is rapidly becoming irrelevant.
Posted by: CJ on April 22, 2009 at 4:15 PM | PERMALINK
I can sum this up in ten words: It's a circle jerk, and Drudge is the pivot man.
Posted by: Blue Girl on April 22, 2009 at 4:17 PM | PERMALINK
I disagree with Bruce @4:14. One of the reasons I visit this site regularly is not to read about the nonsense the right is spewing (I could find that on Drudge or by listening to hate-radio), but to be comforted that there is continual, strong, well-reasoned pushback against their nonsense. Without such pushback, their twisted arguments can (and have) take hold. Undoubtedly, Benen has a sphere of influence of his own, and this blog makes a difference.
Posted by: Chris on April 22, 2009 at 4:21 PM | PERMALINK
Wasn't it Drudge who first perpetuated that false story about the white woman who was 'attacked by a black man' who cut a "B" on her cheek, backwards implicating her use of a mirror in gouging the letter into her own cheek? This was just prior to the election last year.
Drudge didn't ask any of the relevant questions that journalists (which he is not) who have credibility and integrity ask before reporting. Drudge splashed it across it's screen without any thought of whether it was true or not and it wasn't until the 'real journalists' started doing journalistic follow up to a potential story that the truth came out. What hit home how little Drudge did to check, was how quickly the truth came out after a very cursory check on the facts but the real journalists.
Drudge, to my knowledge (I don't read Drudge for this very reason), didn't own up to the mistake and there were people who still went to them for 'news' soon afterward.
At least on the HuffPo (ther are others), their journalists have more journalistic cred when they ask thoughtful questions of the president, as one example, and report on news with some set of standards. They don't embarass themselves and hold themselves above Drudge and other less credible websites.
Posted by: QuestionEverything on April 22, 2009 at 4:26 PM | PERMALINK
If the answer is "because Drudge says so," perhaps you should consider reading some different websites for a while.
Or better yet, you should consider finding another line of work. Edward R Murrow spins.
Posted by: Stetson Kennedy on April 22, 2009 at 4:26 PM | PERMALINK
Drudge is not a credible source of anything except misinformation.
And frankly I don't take anyeone who uses him as a source seriously.
Bruce hit it right on the head, and it bears listing his words again -
"Let's have some real coverage of the provisions under discussion for a healthcare plan, the debate over Afghanistan and Pakistan, progress on clean energy initiatives, status of financial and auto bailouts and the impact of all of these on real people.
There is a lot of work to be done and lots to discuss and get informed about."
I would also add global warming, the troubles in the Middle East,nuclear proliferation, Social Security, restoring the institutions that provides checks on various industries and their products, etc.
Obama is in the White House, and the Democratic Party is running Congress. They are now the government.
Focusing on the Right-Wing is important (just as holding those from the Bush years accountable for the crimes they committed), but the next few years are going to be very crucial in our history. Anyone who believes we need to fix some really large problems, need to focus their primary attention on those who are in a position to address them, not those who are not.
Posted by: MVPOnline on April 22, 2009 at 5:10 PM | PERMALINK
Everyone here knows it, but for some reason Steven didn't mention the one key element: Drudge pushes Republican talking points regardless of their factual accuracy, and supresses anything that makes the Republicans look weak.
Furthermore, anyone who frequents Drudge, whether they admit it or not, LIKES those talking points.
Posted by: Cool on April 22, 2009 at 5:20 PM | PERMALINK
Chris Cillizza : political journalism :: s'mores : nutrition
Posted by: Out & About in the Castro on April 22, 2009 at 5:22 PM | PERMALINK
Also, what's up with that crumpled smile of embarrassment Cillizza's always sporting? He looks like a girl in sixth grade who's just been asked to dance for the first time.
Posted by: shortstop on April 22, 2009 at 5:39 PM | PERMALINK
Y'know, it would really only take one good reporter on the "Here's what my competitors will be pushing today, and here's why it's crap" beat to make drudge pretty toxic.
Posted by: paul on April 22, 2009 at 5:42 PM | PERMALINK
Anyone who believes we need to fix some really large problems, need to focus their primary attention on those who are in a position to address them, not those who are not.
Except that, as Steve has been pointing out, the Republicans are still in a position to block any solutions to those large problems through their contacts in the media. Some people in this country are still convinced that our current Secretary of State murdered Vince Foster because there wasn't any pushback when the media (especially the Wall Street Journal) started publishing those claims.
It's all well and good to tell people to just ignore the bullies and they'll go away, but it didn't work in middle school and it's not going to work now.
Posted by: Mnemosyne on April 22, 2009 at 6:28 PM | PERMALINK
shortstop: "Also, what's up with that crumpled smile of embarrassment Cillizza's always sporting? He looks like a girl in sixth grade who's just been asked to dance for the first time."
Touché.
Posted by: Donald from Hawaii on April 22, 2009 at 6:43 PM | PERMALINK
I always thought Crith Thilizza was a hack, now I know why.
Posted by: Trollkiller on April 22, 2009 at 7:10 PM | PERMALINK
"A powerhouse of political news influence"? You don't say! I say more like the water-cooler every drone "newsworker" can't stay away from simply because sophomoric gossip is all the rage in the news room these days! -Kevo
Posted by: kevo on April 22, 2009 at 7:57 PM | PERMALINK
It's strange how Republicans like Steele will criticise Rush (even if they then recant), but you'd never hear a peep criticising Drudge, who is really the Republican's go-to playmaker.
Posted by: Tom - 大肚腩 on April 22, 2009 at 11:04 PM | PERMALINK
Shorter Cillizza: I read Drudge, therefore he is influential.
Posted by: Impeach Jay Bybee on April 22, 2009 at 11:05 PM | PERMALINK
Trollkiller -- he shoots, he SCORES!
Posted by: Sarah Barracuda on April 22, 2009 at 11:07 PM | PERMALINK
Pardon me, but how can you "tend" to do something "regularly"?
Posted by: craigie on April 22, 2009 at 11:23 PM | PERMALINK
It is bad form for a journalist to grovel. In any other country at least. Reading those ass-kissing comments made me want to wash my eyes. Does Cillizza really think the right wing will forget the few times he wrote ethically and honestly when he is culled from the list of questioners at the next Right Wing "press" conference? Sad. If you have a megaphone, you need to be calling these GOP-enabling nasty intellectual frauds on being nutless bastard freak-show sadistic sons of bitches. Or shut the hell up.
Posted by: Sparko on April 22, 2009 at 11:37 PM | PERMALINK
"If you have a megaphone, you need to be calling these GOP-enabling nasty intellectual frauds on being nutless bastard freak-show sadistic sons of bitches. Or shut the hell up."
Sparko 11:37 PM
Some things need repeatin.' You listening, Mr. Benen?
Posted by: Conrads Ghost on April 22, 2009 at 11:56 PM | PERMALINK
Was there anything at all unusual about domestic security officials raising concerns about domestic terrorism at the hands of potentially violent extremists?
Not from libs, no. Same tactic the mainstream media used to sabotage Barry Goldwater by referring to him as an "extremist" instead of a conservative, thus painting the election as a contest between an "extremist" and a "moderate."
Hey, hey, LBJ. How many boys did you kill today." Some moderate. Thank God the Bushes showed that the no-win strategies of Truman and LBJ maximize casualties in war or we'd still be fighting Saddam Hussein and the Republican Guard with "progressive escalation."
Posted by: Luther on April 23, 2009 at 11:08 AM | PERMALINK
Except that, as Steve has been pointing out, the Republicans are still in a position to block any solutions to those large problems through their contacts in the media.
No, the 2008 elections is clear proof that the American public can make intelligent decisions, despite of what the collective media says. Propoganda only works when one stops trying to search for facts.
Peoples' lives have been so messed up the last fews years by the GOP, to the point where I suspect it will not allow them to forget.
Some people in this country are still convinced that our current Secretary of State murdered Vince Foster because there wasn't any pushback when the media (especially the Wall Street Journal) started publishing those claims.
And people also probably still believe Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11. And when those *some* people are continually given a voice to spew lies, fear and distortion - instead of honest debate - and achieve power, and wield it, the last six years are the result.
It's all well and good to tell people to just ignore the bullies and they'll go away, but it didn't work in middle school and it's not going to work now.
It's not ignoring them, it's a matter of giving them the appropriate focus and response. In this case it's confronting them with a larger more powerful voice.
And that works quite well if the majority of people speak up. Bullying is really nothing more than a variant of terrorism. And one of the key components of it is instilling fear in its victims, to the point of making them believe they cannot either fight back or respond.
Posted by: MVPOnline on April 23, 2009 at 12:34 PM | PERMALINK
I read Drudge because it carries news that the mainstream media is too biased to cover. I don't accept it all as gospel; I use it as a starting point. The MSM provides very few starting points these days.
Posted by: Dudley on April 23, 2009 at 2:13 PM | PERMALINK
Look, I get the argument. Major traditional news outlets keep hitting refresh at Drudge's site, effectively using him as an assignment editor
They don't have to hit refresh. He refreshes automatically 3 times more often than most sites. I guess to keep his numbers up.
Posted by: Dale on April 23, 2009 at 2:21 PM | PERMALINK