"people learn more from listening to Rush Limbaugh than they do in high school or college."

Strangely enough, I've heard the same thing on Limbaugh's show.

The 30 secs or so I think I saw on CSAPN yesterday was of Cantor telling the same lie that card check will take away their right to vote.

Like everything else Republicans have done in the past 10 years, this is simple minded and lazy. They're just looking for a way to appear to be as Obama is: engaging, accessible, articulate, moderate seeming.

But when youre idea of health care reform is fire some lawyers and your idea of environment policy is to nuclear or nothing, then you lose, even if Obama spoke like George Bush did.

And by the way, Eric Cantor strikes me as a legend in his own mind. Just saying.

Why is the GOP even wasting its time with this crap?

We all know if Obama fails, they'll be back in power.

If Obama is a success, they'll have no chance at reclaiming the White House.

So why not just sit back, vote "No" on everything, and see what happens?

I haven't seen anything that indicates whether the Repos limited invitees to card carrying, loyalty oath Repos, and whether or not they pre-vetted or pre-wrote the questions.

They tend to do that sort of thing.

If I was a Republican leader, I would stop trying to compete with Obama on a macro-level. Essentially, this means that they need to work within Obama's policies instead of coming up with alternative ones. The part has exhausted itself in terms of ideas, so all of their BIG alternatives have been laughable. They need to set their sights lower, and build up.

In any event, it seems that these leaders still think that the problem of the Republican party is branding, which essentially is cosmetic. These guys are going to be in the wilderness for a long time.

it was stunning looking at the CBS feed on it without the sound on last night... the pictures from the gathering were so WHITE (and this coming from a WASP) and jarring. You almost didn't have to listen to the lies... er ideas coming from them to see that they have no clue what to do. In some ways, they are worse off than the Democrats were in the 1980s.

good to see that they went way outside the beltway so they could connect with people in real americans.

Whip Party 2.0 won't be around in 20 years so I hope they enjoyed the pizza.

I was musing this morning while listening to one of the Repub blowhards going on about " what the American People want" They still are unable to come to terms with the fact that the American do in fact know what they want and said so last November 4th. It also concerns me that fat ass Jeb Bush is being put up front as a "New Choice". Having lived under his governorship and watched his back stabbing screw the people attitude like trying to do an end run around a class size amendments voted for overwhelmingly by the voter (Florida 47th in per capita student spending)
He also changed the constitution so that we require a 60% majority to pass any ballot initiatives , thus ensuring none of the petitioned changes to government will ever pass.
Need we mention Terry Schiavo. Watch that MO FO and be afraid that the Repubs will trot him out in 2012.

Having cranked up the stupid faction of the party for 8 years to "win", the Pubs are now trying to sidestep or unwind them.

Good luck with that.

Thats it isn't it.This is all they have. The person, and I use the term lightly, that said you learn more listening to Rush than you do in high school or college kind of sums it all up for them. That's all they have left.
After thirty years of republicans pulling a massive swindle by amassing wealth with a small percentage of people they really have nothing left.

"This new initiative is intended to be little more than a fresh coat of paint on a car that no longer runs."

Actually it's more like giving a serial killer a new name and a facelift.

God, how pathetic. Let me guess what their primary policy position is: Tax cuts, right?

These sphincters are one-trick ponies who couldn't think logically if their lives depended on it.

"In some ways, they are worse off than the Democrats were in the 1980s." Posted by: Chuck on May 3, 2009 at 9:49 AM

Amen.
Unfortunately, in two of the ways that matter the most, they're still, and likely will be for some time, much better off. They own the mass media, and they own a significant slice of "our" pols.
Or, to be more precise, the corporatocracy that owns the Rethug Party is also the owner and operator of the mass media, and thus largely control the flow of information. We're not quite at the point at which the internet can replace the networks, the cable news channels, talk radio, and the major papers, in shaping public perceptions of reality.
And, as Sen. Durbin recently made very clear, we're even further from the point at which citizen and public-interest-group funding (and control) of politicians will match, let alone overpower, corporate funding.
The realignment that is underway is precarious, and we'll have to work harder than ever to help the Obama Administration to be able to implement the policies whose successes will cement the return to a government of, by, and for the people.
The Rethugs and their corporate masters know they're in a fight to the death. Normal, ordinary Americans need to know this as well, if we're to win this fight.

The Republican party is as intellectually bankrupt as Cheney/Bush left the nation.
After decades of promising fiscal conservatism while spending us in to debt by confiscating our wealth for the benefit of the very few, promising smaller less intrusive government and delivering policies of torture and wire taps, etc...
the only move left on the political chessboard is to appeal to the haters.
This is why Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck are the defacto leaders of the party. Revenge and retribution is all the Republican party has credibility to deliver, and the pro-torture apologists show us how they plan to deliver it.
It is a pity that Jack Kemp has passed. The Republicans could use his intellectual heft.

I wish someone would address an issue for me, regarding the Republican platform and pov. I understand that the Republicans are in favor of "personal responsibility" (unless those individuals are greedy businessmen or torture-enablers). The term "personal responsibility" seems to be an all-encompassing code term to mask a ruthless desire to remove most (if not all) of the help the govt provides those with the most need: the disabled, the "challenged," and those otherwise unable to even come close to getting by. My question is this: what are those people supposed to do? If the Republicans have their way & social programs are gutted, exactly what is left for the most needy sectors of society? I've tried to find an answer to this, but have come up blank. Has any Republican addressed this issue? (Lincoln doesn't count.)

martin.

"The 30 secs or so I think I saw on CSAPN yesterday was of Cantor telling the same lie that card check will take away their right to vote."

At least that was to be expected. What is disheartening is that Bob Schieffer claimed that same falsehood was fact this morning on 'Face the Nation'.

people learn more from listening to Rush Limbaugh than they do in high school or college.

I feel like I learn more from watching 5 minutes of the daily show than a whole day of network news.

rob!: If Obama is a success, they'll have no chance at reclaiming the White House. So why not just sit back, vote "No" on everything, and see what happens?

That's effectively what they are doing. This group is more about positioning leaders for the primary run, so they claim they have found a new direction.

smartalek: We're not quite at the point at which the internet can replace the networks, the cable news channels, talk radio, and the major papers, in shaping public perceptions of reality.

And the internet will never take place of push media like radio and televison. First because the internet takes some actual effort, and secondly because the internet is self-reinforcing. That said, as much as I disagree with my internet brethren on the other side, I respect them more than I do the nitwits who suck at the teat of CNN and Tom Brokaw.

GOP's NCNA= lipstick on a pig

You say there was little Obama bashing at the NCNA meeting. I, however, found Mitt Romney's comments to be cheap shrill politics. He took every shot he could take at the President. His perfromance included the vitriol spewed in his recent appearance inh the FOXNEWS Hannity show.
Cantor gets the second prize.

When the party goes more to the left i will have to go to a third party.
John macian was to far to the left is why he lost. many Republican,s stayed home.