May 8, 2009
BEFORE HE 'MOVES ON'.... Dick Cheney spoke at some length with radio host Scott Hennen yesterday, and acknowledged that it's time for older Republican leaders, like him, to exit the stage. "I think periodically we have to go through one these sessions. It helps clear away some of the underbrush," the former vice president said, adding, "Some of the older folks who've been around a long time -- like yours truly -- need to move on and make room for that young talent that's coming along."
That would likely bring some relief to current GOP leaders who would love nothing more than to see Dick Cheney "move on," but before he does, the former VP wants to take a few more bites at the apple. In yesterday's interview, Cheney defended torture, went after the president again, and perhaps most importantly, said he doesn't want to see his party moderate.
Calling politics cyclical, he concluded that the party did not need to go through a process of moderation.
"I think it would be a mistake for us to moderate. This is about fundamental beliefs and values and ideas...what the role of government should be in our society, and our commitment to the Constitution and constitutional principles," he said. "You know, when you add all those things up the idea that we ought to moderate basically means we ought to fundamentally change our philosophy. I for one am not prepared to do that, and I think most us aren't."
Cheney added, "Most Republicans have a pretty good idea of values, and aren't eager to have someone come along and say, 'Well, the only way you can win is if you start to act more like a Democrat.'"
I can only assume Democrats are delighted to hear this. Indeed, if the DNC were writing up the script, party leaders would have Dick Cheney doing public interviews, encouraging his party not to move towards the middle. The former vice president continues to do more to help the majority party than hurt it.
This weekend, Cheney is scheduled to appear on CBS's "Face the Nation." It's all part of his plan to "move on and make room for that young talent that's coming along."
—Steve Benen 8:00 AM
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Most Republicans have a pretty good idea of values
The values are neither the problem nor the motivatiion. For Republicans, they are merely the rationale used for justifying outrageous policies.
Posted by: Danp on May 8, 2009 at 7:58 AM | PERMALINK
Vicious old control freak can't let go. He's all yours, Republicans. Good luck getting rid of him.
Posted by: shortstop on May 8, 2009 at 8:06 AM | PERMALINK
"...what the role of government should be in our society, and our commitment to the Constitution and constitutional principles," - Dick Cheney
Mr. "Fourth Branch" speaks of constitutional principles? Now there's a laffer for ya.
Posted by: <arkozilla on May 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM | PERMALINK
When can we put a stake through the Undead Cheney?
Posted by: MR Bill on May 8, 2009 at 8:27 AM | PERMALINK
He's probably as well regarded as Tiberious was during his later years on the Isle of Capri.
Posted by: Saint Zak on May 8, 2009 at 8:27 AM | PERMALINK
This is bizzare. We don't hear a peep from Cheney for eight years. Then he leaves office as the VP, and he is all over the teevee for a few months, and NOW he is doing a "farewell tour" like he is an actual vote-getting politician and not a party aparatchik.
There really are an infinity of alternate universes and Republicans seem to live in all of them simultaneously.
Posted by: inkadu on May 8, 2009 at 8:34 AM | PERMALINK
"This weekend, Cheney is scheduled to appear on CBS's "Face the Nation." It's all part of his plan to "move on and make room for that young talent that's coming along.""
Good ole Sticky Dick
Posted by: Lab Partner on May 8, 2009 at 8:35 AM | PERMALINK
They really shouldn't act more like Democrats. That niche is taken. The Democrats tried to act more like Republicans when they were down and out. It got us Clinton and little more. On the other hand, I have a hard time understanding just what the are fundamental Republican "beliefs, values and ideas." Small government? Not really. The government has grown every time the Republicans have been in charge. Individual freedom? As long as the Peeping Tom bedroom police hold say, that is a big "NO." Lower taxes? For the rich maybe. For the rest of us, not so much. Expanding opportunity for all Americans? A REALLY BIG NO. They are owned lock, stock and barrel by the current power elite. They are big time crony capitalists. They will never give a new or little guy a break.
Cheney is right about one thing, if the Republicans hope to recover, the current generation has to retire or otherwise leave the scene. As long as he and Rush Limbaugh are the faces of the Republican party the Democrats have the field to themselves. Therein lies my greatest worry. We need a two party system. Otherwise the Democrats could become just as bad as the Republicans have been over the last 16 years. We really wouldn't want one party rule. That is the path to decline and collapse. Just ask the Mexicans how domination by Institutional Revolutionary Party for most of the 20th century brought real democracy and prosperity to what should be a prosperous land.
Posted by: Ron Byers on May 8, 2009 at 8:38 AM | PERMALINK
And, may I "pile on" and say, Well Said, Mr Byers?
Posted by: berttheclock on May 8, 2009 at 8:42 AM | PERMALINK
I, for one, can't wait till he returns to the undisclosed rock he dwells under. Nonetheless, someone should follow him back to it so the World Court can serve him their subpoena for his guest shot apparance at the Hague. A truly nauseaing individual if ever there was one, that Darth fellow...
Posted by: Stevio on May 8, 2009 at 8:43 AM | PERMALINK
Cheney should indeed move on, but his exit should be guided firmly by those he has wronged. He belongs in a cell for the rest of his life, and his money belongs in a fund to compensate (impossible) his victims. Anyone who wants to consult this destructive Republican dinosaur should be free to do so on visiting day, separated by plexiglass, or via monitored mail and telephone communications.
Posted by: Boolaboola on May 8, 2009 at 8:48 AM | PERMALINK
check out this bit of delusion;
http://www.redstate.com/e_pluribus_unum/2009/05/06/dear-black-americans-democrats-deliberately-hold-your-children-down/
and this comment in particular;
"Well stated, and gets to the heart of the matter. Rush Limbaugh said that we conservatives NEED to start promoting the message that the democrats are not kind and loving - they are the most dangerous kind of cruel. Their policies and entitlements are designed not to improve the lives of those they purport to help, but rather only to improve their chance for reelection and a continuing culture of corruption."
these are the people Cheney is speaking to. They are the lobotomized among us.
Posted by: grinning cat on May 8, 2009 at 8:56 AM | PERMALINK
Dick Cheney is like the obnoxious cousins who keep staying an extra day.
Posted by: pj in jesusland on May 8, 2009 at 9:01 AM | PERMALINK
The only question I have is why is Cheney being invited to speak on Meet the Press? He is not an officer of the current administration and has no role in policy decisions. He is, at best, a defender of the past not unlike Rove, Newt, Bolton, Palin and the rest of the losing crowd. Is this another example of the "liberal" media attempting to be unbiased or another example of the fact that the mass media is firmly in the grasp of the right wing???
Posted by: sparky on May 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM | PERMALINK
his farewell tour is lasting longer than cher's. how soon before commemorative t-shirts are available?
Posted by: mellowjohn on May 8, 2009 at 9:11 AM | PERMALINK
How can we miss him if he won't go away?
Posted by: phil on May 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM | PERMALINK
via monitored mail and telephone communications.
I like that. A taste of his own medicine you might say.
Therein lies my greatest worry. We need a two party system.
True, but for the reasons you iterated in your above paragraph (and concluded with "They are big time crony capitalists") I don't think I'll miss this current batch of Republican opposition much. We as a country, desperately need to move past the petty bickering of the current system (or players).
It would be nice if we lived in a stable world in which our only disagreement was over abortion. But alas, there are other things that go bump in the night. The serious problems out there need to be met with head on, and the current opposition party is acting like the only evils worth worrying about are estate taxes and abortions in the first two trimesters. Only one of which, by the way, they really give a damn about.
I accept your premise and your conclusion, but only if the Republican party we've come to know, slips quietly into the night. To be a truly strong nation, we need good faith opposition, not an oligarchy party cloaked in "American values".
Posted by: palinoscopy on May 8, 2009 at 9:16 AM | PERMALINK
Why is this man still being interviewed on mainstream media??? He is the failed symbol of a failed administration that is now gone (thankfully). He says the same thing over and over again. The problem is not Cheney, but the people who keep inviting him on to their shows and the people who keep reporting what he says. If the media stops covering him, he will stop coming on. I don't ever want to hear about him or from him again, unless it's his obit.
Dianaw
Posted by: dianaw on May 8, 2009 at 9:17 AM | PERMALINK
So long Dick...Forget to write!
Posted by: In what respect, Charlie? on May 8, 2009 at 9:18 AM | PERMALINK
his farewell tour is lasting longer than cher's.
This is more of a Blagojevich tour.
Posted by: Danp on May 8, 2009 at 9:28 AM | PERMALINK
"Most Republicans have a pretty good idea of values, and aren't eager to have someone come along and say, 'Well, the only way you can win is if you start to act more like a Democrat.'"
Someone already came along and told you to start acting like Democrats: the American people, back in November.
Or did you not notice that?
Posted by: 2Manchu on May 8, 2009 at 9:31 AM | PERMALINK
If only someone would lure him into his man-sized safe, using unfiltered Lucky Strikes, whiskey and the screams of the tortured as bait, then slam the door.
Posted by: shortstop on May 8, 2009 at 9:32 AM | PERMALINK
Man, he loves the spotlight now, doesn't he?
Posted by: g on May 8, 2009 at 9:40 AM | PERMALINK
Cheney needs to keep in mind that the Libertarian Party has a core set of ideas and values as does the Constitution Party and the Green Party. What they are missing is a constituency. Americans are increasingly realizing that Republicans are really lousy at running a government and their economic policies don't work for the majority of people.
Posted by: Th on May 8, 2009 at 9:44 AM | PERMALINK
The GOP needs to have Cheney gone.
He's as toxic to his party as Manny is to his sport.
Methinks Dick wants one more chance to say GFY to a reporter.
Remember, this guy can't even shoot a shot-gun properly.
Posted by: Tom Nicholson on May 8, 2009 at 10:49 AM | PERMALINK
Didn't he already make his exit - in a wheelchair? Should have been in a tumbril.
Posted by: maya on May 8, 2009 at 11:06 AM | PERMALINK
Meet the Press has Cheney on so that when he critiques what the current administration is doing, his comments are quoted with:
"Dick Cheney on Meet the Press Sunday said..."
It's for ratings. Which is as disgusting as Cheney's policy on torture is.
Posted by: Memoirgirl on May 8, 2009 at 12:29 PM | PERMALINK
Ron Byers writes: "They really shouldn't act more like Democrats. That niche is taken. The Democrats tried to act more like Republicans when they were down and out. It got us Clinton and little more."
No, Dem spinelessness also got us the Iraq war, the latter SCOTUS justices, torture, and every other hideous Rethug policy that they helped along. If only Dems acted like Dems with conviction, it wouldn't matter so much what Rethugs did.
Posted by: Frak on May 8, 2009 at 12:35 PM | PERMALINK
The DNCC should publicly urge Limbaugh and Cheney to immediately form the 2012 GOP Purity Ticket so they can get a head start on driving off the few remaining sane Republicans and GOP-leaning independents. By election day they'd be down to that rock-hard kernel of nothing other than nuts and loons, otherwise known as "the base."
Posted by: bluestatedon on May 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM | PERMALINK