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May 13, 2009

PROVING POSNER RIGHT.... The Republican Party doesn't have an economic policy. Or a coherent foreign policy. It's more than a little fuzzy when it comes to health care, energy, the environment, and education.

But the shrinking GOP has invested quite a bit of time and energy into coming up with a new name for Democrats. Roger Simon reports:

A member of the Republican National Committee told me Tuesday that when the RNC meets in an extraordinary special session next week, it will approve a resolution rebranding Democrats as the "Democrat Socialist Party."

Notice, these clowns can't even get the grammar right. The "Democratic Socialist Party" would merely be moronic; the "Democrat Socialist Party" is both moronic and an insult to the English language.

Regardless, the effort is a breakthrough moment in political inanity. Members of the Republican National Committee are holding a special meeting so they can officially ask Democrats to change the name of their political party to something Republicans prefer. In fact, the resolution, which might as well have been written in crayon, concludes that the RNC is "calling on" the Democratic Party to embrace the GOP-endorsed name. It adds that Democrats "should agree" to the re-naming.

If Democrats disagree, the RNC has promised to stomp its feet and hold its breath.

If you're thinking the RNC might need a "time out," we're on the same page.

Richard Posner, a well-known conservative and Reagan-appointed federal judge, argued this week that "conservative intellectuals" no longer have a political party. For some reason, the Republican National Committee appears anxious to prove Posner right.

Steve Benen 1:20 PM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (59)

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How about the Republican Assholes Party?

Posted by: qwerty on May 13, 2009 at 1:15 PM | PERMALINK

saying "democrat" is just a goose-step/publicly blown kiss for Rush Limbaugh

Posted by: effluvientOne on May 13, 2009 at 1:16 PM | PERMALINK

Too damn funny. I'm dyin' here.

Posted by: Hazmatteroughagous on May 13, 2009 at 1:18 PM | PERMALINK

It's pitiful. But the ReRushlickins must be bright enough (?) to at least think about the public impact of their antics. Do they really think enough of the public are OK with such nonsense? Are enough of the public susceptible to being favorable buzzed by trashy games to make it worth the R's while? For the latter to turn out true, is maybe scarier than knowing that a major party is so diseased and infantile.

Posted by: Neil B ♪ on May 13, 2009 at 1:18 PM | PERMALINK

Steve Benen wrote: "The 'Democratic Socialist Party' would merely be moronic ..."

I beg to differ.

While that is certainly an inappropriate name for the existing Democratic (Corporatist) Party, an actual Democratic Socialist Party is just what America needs.

And of course such a political party does exist. It's called the Green Party.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on May 13, 2009 at 1:19 PM | PERMALINK

Maybe the Dems should get Barney the Dinosaur to give the official response-- just to keep the exchange on the same level.

Posted by: stan on May 13, 2009 at 1:19 PM | PERMALINK

Read the comments over at the Posner piece, they prove him right every other line. His readers simply can't grasp what he is saying and take him to task for "believing in global warming" and "not opposing the murder of unborn babies!!! 1111!!!" Posner doesn't join the fray, of course, but you can just imagine, if he does read those comments, that he washes his hands after doing so and swears never to get near the republican party again, in any of its forms.

aimai

Posted by: aimai on May 13, 2009 at 1:20 PM | PERMALINK

Oh, the GOP has rebanded the DEMs. I wasn't aware it worked that way. I suggest we come up with some names for the other side.

I actually can't believe they think this is a good idea. I think it was Haley Barbour who admitted in an NPR interview that calling them "Democrat" Party instead of the "Democractic" Party made them look pretty stupid, sincem you know, that's the actualy name. I thought they would move be on this silly stuff.

Posted by: do on May 13, 2009 at 1:20 PM | PERMALINK

I wonder if they have enough staff left to tell them they should get rid of the extra PR folks, and go back to hiring policy experts. By the way, what are their think tanks doing these days?

Posted by: Danp on May 13, 2009 at 1:21 PM | PERMALINK

I'd have to go with the Confederate Taliban, with a tip o' the hat to Pete Sessions.

Posted by: pacato on May 13, 2009 at 1:28 PM | PERMALINK

All stupid, all the time. I'm starting to feel sorry for Steele.... well, no, not really.

Posted by: MattF on May 13, 2009 at 1:30 PM | PERMALINK

Buffoons they may be, but they're still running the U.S. Senate, and calling most of the shots on what does, or does not, happen in Congress.

Posted by: K in VA on May 13, 2009 at 1:30 PM | PERMALINK

Actually, to be grammatically consistent (if not correct), shouldn't that be "Democrat Social Party"?

Posted by: artsmith on May 13, 2009 at 1:31 PM | PERMALINK

Roger Simon is working for the Onion now?

Posted by: Lifelong Dem on May 13, 2009 at 1:33 PM | PERMALINK

Normally, I'd be tempted to suggest the DNC respond in kind, but the damage the Republican party has done to its own brand make it a moot point. "Republican" is already carries the taint of fringe group lunacy.

Posted by: Quaker in a Basement on May 13, 2009 at 1:33 PM | PERMALINK

If the Republicans ask Reid nicely, I'm sure he will happily change it for them.

Posted by: jen f on May 13, 2009 at 1:34 PM | PERMALINK

Apparently, I are speak the English goodly today.

Posted by: Quaker in a Basement on May 13, 2009 at 1:35 PM | PERMALINK

If you're thinking the RNC might need a "time out," we're on the same page.

Actually, I was thinking that the RNC might need a little vacation time aboard an abandoned aircraft carrier while it's in the process of being sunk for use as a deep-water reef. Just think of it as their own unique, justifiably-deserved "Poseidon Adventure" moment.

But if it'll make them happy, I'll hoist a big ol' hammer-n-sickle and a couple of Red Stars up the flagpole. In return, I'll have to insist that FOX inserts a cute-n-fuzzy swastika inside their "O", with a mean-looking eagle perched atop....

Posted by: S. Waybright on May 13, 2009 at 1:41 PM | PERMALINK

"K in VA" and "jen f" have it right. The Republicans might look a little silly to us, but the Democrats are starting to look awfully ineffectual to everybody. The Republicans may be the party of "No"; the Democrats are becoming the party of "Can't".

Posted by: Greg Worley on May 13, 2009 at 1:48 PM | PERMALINK

Apparently, I are speak the English goodly today.
Posted by: Quaker in a Basement

lol

goodlier than the republican'ts

Posted by: mudwall jackson on May 13, 2009 at 1:48 PM | PERMALINK

I'm with SecularAnimist on this one. I was thinking the Democratic Socialist Party sounded pretty damn good to me.

Posted by: asiangrrlMN on May 13, 2009 at 1:49 PM | PERMALINK

Yahooo !! Artsmith I'm laughing my ass off. Democat Social Part indeed.

Posted by: Gandalf on May 13, 2009 at 1:50 PM | PERMALINK

If we get to rename the Republican party, we could rearrange the letters to make it the "Can Lie, Burp" party.

Posted by: gradysu on May 13, 2009 at 1:50 PM | PERMALINK

This Friday there will be an RNC pep rally in the gym. Participants are urged to bring signs disparaging the "Democrat Socials Team" and there will be an effigy of President Obama to double as a piñata. Standard flavor kool aid will be served in the foyer. Local expert, Rush Libationist will be on hand to give a lecture on proper drug abuse.

Posted by: Capt Kirk on May 13, 2009 at 1:51 PM | PERMALINK

The only response by the Dems should be "we really don't care what they call us, as long as they don't call us republican. THAT would be an insult."

Posted by: bubba on May 13, 2009 at 1:51 PM | PERMALINK

Golly, if Barney the Dino's busy, I bet they could get the almost ,"First Dude" to ride by a news camera in shades and helmet-less on his snowmobile with the banner unfurled behind him....

Posted by: stevio on May 13, 2009 at 1:51 PM | PERMALINK

I am afraid Posner is a little loopy in his piece:
The end of the Cold War, the collapse of the Soviet Union, the surge of prosperity worldwide that marked the global triumph of capitalism, the essentially conservative policies, especially in economics, of the Clinton administration, and finally the election and early years of the Bush Administration, marked the apogee of the conservative movement.
Yes, if you can think that the Clinton's economic policies were the same as Bush's, then the conservative movement was a big success that "can rest, for at least a little while, on its laurels."

Posted by: Hipporider on May 13, 2009 at 1:52 PM | PERMALINK

The good news here is that the Rescumlicans are further diluting the effectiveness of the whole 'socialist' diatribe/label that they regularly abuse.

I'm sure most all members of the RNC will be driving on the 'socialist' highway and roads system and/or using the 'socialist' air traffic control system to get to the meeting to vote on this asinine proposal.

Posted by: BrianInMKE on May 13, 2009 at 1:52 PM | PERMALINK

That's fine, I hope they keep themselves busy doing totally inane stuff like this. It's right about at their level of competence and intellectual vigor. Live it up, kids, now leave the adults alone so we can get some work done.

Posted by: Skepticat on May 13, 2009 at 1:54 PM | PERMALINK

So can the GOP's opponents officially rename it the "Party of No"? Or, my favorite, the "Party of Know-Nothings".

Posted by: JohnC on May 13, 2009 at 1:55 PM | PERMALINK

..."conservative intellectuals" no longer have a political party.

"conservative intellectual" is an oxymoron. George Will needs to suck it up and stop whinging; he and his merry band of "conservative intellectuals" are reaping what they've been sowing for the past 30 years.

Posted by: grape_crush on May 13, 2009 at 1:59 PM | PERMALINK

Normally, I'd be tempted to suggest the DNC respond

The White Republic Party? (sorry, couldn't resist)

Posted by: kth on May 13, 2009 at 1:59 PM | PERMALINK

Posner is wrong. This was always what the "conservative" party was all about. They just can't dress it up any more.

Posted by: Jay on May 13, 2009 at 2:01 PM | PERMALINK

If you're thinking the RNC might need a "time out," we're on the same page.

Au contraire, let them keep talking. It seems the more they talk these days the more the curtain is pulled back to reveal the ugly truth. The RNC seems hellbent on a total flame-out, crash-n-burn style of collapse. Go away quietly, no siree. I say more power to them.

Posted by: hopeful on May 13, 2009 at 2:01 PM | PERMALINK

Somebody's getting tiewood and cranky. The defeat is starting to sink in.

Posted by: tb on May 13, 2009 at 2:01 PM | PERMALINK

We're on the playground, right? And the mean kid likes to call us ugly names, and now the mean kid, who doesn't have a friend in the world to back him up because he's so frickin' mean, says that we have to call ourselves by the ugly name he made up for us?

And there's an upside in this for the mean kid, how?

(Damn, those guys are dumb.)

Posted by: mcmama on May 13, 2009 at 2:01 PM | PERMALINK

How does McGruber know this? Look at what the liberal media doesn't tell you:- McGruber

Now I know McG is a parody. Referring to oneself in the first person is so Lord Of The Rings Gollum territory.

Pretty soon he'll start talking about his precious.

Posted by: oh my on May 13, 2009 at 2:07 PM | PERMALINK

my bad, I meant 3rd person.

Posted by: oh my on May 13, 2009 at 2:09 PM | PERMALINK

[...] the "Democrat Socialist Party" is both moronic and an insult to the English language. -- Steve Benen

An' you ain't careful, the Grub is gonna call you a "grammar prig".

Posted by: exlibra on May 13, 2009 at 2:14 PM | PERMALINK

Not True! It just that they do not have politically feasible policies:

economic policy -- cut or elimninate all taxes foreign/military policy -- stay the Bush course health care -- let the free market rule
energy -- let the free market rule
environment -- denial: there is no problem education -- abolish public schools

Posted by: Tom on May 13, 2009 at 2:15 PM | PERMALINK

I just skimmed the Posner piece. Shorter Posner: "We won, so we can afford to act like buffoons now."

Posted by: kc on May 13, 2009 at 2:24 PM | PERMALINK

Voting on a resolution for the opposition to change its name? That's what they are spending their time on? Why is it that they don't see that this kind of ridiculous waste of time is EXACTLY why the lost?

Rather than look at the issues Americans care about and coming up with answers, they are still throwing tantrums - but nicely, with a vote. Even I can think of how they can improve their Party and I'd like to see them fail again and again.

Keep the resolutions coming, boys!

Posted by: Memoirgirl on May 13, 2009 at 2:27 PM | PERMALINK

So let me get this straight:

Our economy is on the verge of total collapse ... most large banks are, in fact, insolvent ... unemployment is in double digits in many areas of the nation ... the environment has been raped and/or ignored for three decades and is teetering on catastrophe ... our health care system is fundamentally broken, with millions of our fellow citizens filing for bankruptcy because they got sick ... we are trying to fight two wars, one of which has been a clusterf*** since the beginning ... the policies of the past 8 years created more terrorists than it destroyed ... our education system is the laughingstock of the industrialized world ... the American auto industry is in shambles, with a few bondholders willing to force hundreds of thousands of people (all of whom have seen their benefits cut in half, pay frozen, and pension eliminated) into unemployment just because the bondholders wanted a few extra pennies on the dollar ... and millions more Americans are finding themselves homeless as the housing bubble continues to burst ...

and the GOP's response is to ... call Democrats names?

Not even J.C. General could have come up with parody that good.

Posted by: Mark D on May 13, 2009 at 2:36 PM | PERMALINK

it will approve a resolution rebranding Democrats as the "Democrat Socialist Party."

Because just calling the Democratic Party the Democrat Party was working so well for them...

Posted by: Gregory on May 13, 2009 at 3:09 PM | PERMALINK

The Democrats should respond with commensurate maturity by resolving to call the GOP the Fartypants Doodybreath Party.

But seriously, folks...I can't wait to see how "serious" conservatives respond to this latest piece of childishness. These are the people who seriously expect the voters to put them back in charge?

Posted by: mikeypal on May 13, 2009 at 3:12 PM | PERMALINK

On a more serious note...

If the Republicans are officialy resorting to name calling, when can we expect actual stone or punch throwing. That's the natural progression for pre-pubescent bullys.

I begin to worry that these people who like to label everyone else as "Socialist" are beginning to see the value of chairman Mao's belief that, politics is war without bloodshed, but maybe it's time for some bloddshed.

Posted by: Winkandanod on May 13, 2009 at 3:19 PM | PERMALINK


Can't. Stop. Laughing.

Posted by: Joe Friday on May 13, 2009 at 3:19 PM | PERMALINK

Go ahead and hire a bunch of PhDs at 90k/year to teach at some poor-performing public school. It won't do a lick of good if the parents/parent are/is too involved in their tweets and watching American Idol -- McGrubber, @14:29

You're absolutely right. The Twitter Twits Brigade and the American Idol Idolaters being, mostly, right-wing nuts, they all "hom skool" their children, so any improvements in the public school system would, indeed, be for naught.

A strong family will solve most problems, along with a vibrant local government. -- same source as above

Funny..."all white males" doesn't seem to come up as a synonym for "vibrant" in my Roget's Thesaurus. Nor do I readily accept your interpretation of "strong family", which seems to be "women at home, dreading the return of the strongman from his governing exercises".

Unless, of course, you meant to say "vibrator", rather than "vibrant". I've heard that it does, indeed, keep some families strong sometimes.

Posted by: exlibra on May 13, 2009 at 3:20 PM | PERMALINK

Too bad McGoober can't even comprehend the articles that he links to:

"Regulators have long had the power to sanction a bank for excessive pay structures, but have rarely used it."

Hey McGoober, just because you're too young to have seen real regulations in action doesn't mean that they aren't valid and legitimate restrictions on institutions that control the safety and soundness of our financial system. Christ, you would think that some of you would have the decency to shut your mouth about such drivel when we are *still in the midst of a financial crisis brought on by these very institutions*.

Posted by: OhNoNotAgain on May 13, 2009 at 3:29 PM | PERMALINK

"Start at the lowest level and move up, if need be. A strong family will solve most problems, along with a vibrant local government."

Hey McGoober, how do you suppose that you get "strong families" ? Do you suppose it has anything to do with a large and vibrant middle class and increasing economic opportunities (increasing wages) for those in the lower classes so that they can move up into the middle class ? Nah, that's too hard for you, so instead you'll just throw out meaningless slogans that don't solve a damn thing.

Posted by: OhNoNotAgain on May 13, 2009 at 3:35 PM | PERMALINK

You know, Socialist-Democrat Party seems to make some grammatical sense....

Posted by: MNPundit on May 13, 2009 at 3:41 PM | PERMALINK

Posner doesn't join the fray, of course, but you can just imagine, if he does read those comments, that he washes his hands after doing so and swears never to get near the republican party again, in any of its forms.

Oh goody, another right-wing Democrat.

Posted by: dr sardonicus on May 13, 2009 at 3:50 PM | PERMALINK

Ok and I'll rebrand the republicans as the Conservative Christian Corporate Party (CCCP) because of their affinity for Stalinist interrigation techniques, party purges, and revisionist history.

The advantage is that all the badges, uniforms, and speeches already exist. Cheney, Rush & Gingrich wouldn't have to spend a nickel on that stuff.

Posted by: Kurt on May 13, 2009 at 3:51 PM | PERMALINK

I think they could use a rebranding as well.

How about, the Evangelical Party Of Southeastern Republicans Sponsored By NewsCorp

Posted by: Steve Simitzis on May 13, 2009 at 4:31 PM | PERMALINK

McGoofer, having a tax on X isn't socialism just becasue you don't like that particular tax or the purpose it's put for. In fact, irony-challenged idiot, such taxes on soda etc. are "more fair" in conservative terms (and maybe just are, period, this time) because they're "user taxes" (~ user fees.) They target a specific use that costs society money, and makes the users pay for it - don't you like that idea?

Second, the government espcially has the right to control financial institutions pretty much as it wants to, since their use of money is tied to a system of debt monetization etc. that need not come w/o strings attached (unlike, trading fruits for tools etc.)

Go back to SNL where you belong, or hang out (or dangle your "teabags") with fellow Rushtalibans.

Posted by: Neil B. ♪ on May 13, 2009 at 4:34 PM | PERMALINK

By the end of his life the modern founder of conservative thought William Buckley had all but outright repudiated the Republican party. He denounced the war the Iraq. He spoke out the anti-intellectualism of the religious right. The majority of his heirs (including his son) ended up endorsing Obama in 2008. Virtually all of them sighted that while they disagreed with Obama on many positions they respected his intellect.

In other words they wanted to ruled by someone with a brain in their head, not a bible in their hand.

Posted by: thorin-1 on May 13, 2009 at 4:48 PM | PERMALINK

I vote for changing Republicans to the Morans Party.

Posted by: Shalimar on May 13, 2009 at 6:33 PM | PERMALINK

"No, money does not make a strong family. I didn't think I had to point that out, but maybe I do. Sorry about that."

Lack of money can significantly weaken a family. I didn't think I had to point that out, but maybe I do. Sorry about that.

Posted by: PaulB on May 13, 2009 at 6:52 PM | PERMALINK

This is too easy a game to play: "Officials of a) ______ met together to rebrand b)___________ as c)___________"

Let's see . . .

a) Hertz; b) Avis; c) "Deathtrap Rentals"
a) Pepsi; b) CocaCola; c) "Black Swill"
a) San Francisco; b) Los Angeles; c) "Sim City"
a) UNC; b) Duke; c) "Headupmyass College"

Posted by: Ignatz on May 14, 2009 at 5:58 AM | PERMALINK




 

 

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