May 28, 2009
THE LIMITS OF SCRUTINY.... When I first saw this report yesterday, I sincerely thought it was a joke.
Sotomayor also claimed: "For me, a very special part of my being Latina is the mucho platos de arroz, gandoles y pernir -- rice, beans and pork -- that I have eaten at countless family holidays and special events."
This has prompted some Republicans to muse privately about whether Sotomayor is suggesting that distinctive Puerto Rican cuisine such as patitas de cerdo con garbanzo -- pigs' feet with chickpeas -- would somehow, in some small way influence her verdicts from the bench.
Curt Levey, the executive director of the Committee for Justice, a conservative-leaning advocacy group, said he wasn't certain whether Sotomayor had claimed her palate would color her view of legal facts but he said that President Obama's Supreme Court nominee clearly touts her subjective approach to the law.
First, that's not a good translation of the Puerto Rican dishes. (Update: The original article included a bad translation. The above reflects the corrected language.)
Second, The Hill's Alexander Bolton, who wrote the report, said some conservatives really are scrutinizing the connection between Sotomayor's favorite dishes and her judicial responsibilities.
[Bolton] confirmed, saying, "a source I spoke to said people were discussing that her [speech] had brought attention...she intimates that what she eats somehow helps her decide cases better."
Bolton said the source was drawing, "a deductive link," between Sotomayor's thoughts on Puerto Rican food and her other statements. And I guess the chain goes something like this: 1). Sotomayor implied that her Latina identity informs her jurisprudence, 2). She also implied that Puerto Rican cuisine is a crucial part of her Latina identity, 3). Ergo, her gastronomical proclivities will be a non-negligible factor for her when she's considering cases before the Supreme Court.
I realize the right hasn't launched a serious campaign against a Democratic president's Supreme Court nominee in the modern political era, so conservatives are a little out of practice. But once they start over-thinking the nominee's favorite meals, it's clear a few too many on the right have gone from zero to hysterical in less than 48 hours.
—Steve Benen 9:20 AM
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Yes, but what kind of toilet paper does she use and how will it influence her rulings. Just when you think they can't lower the bar any more.....
Posted by: John R on May 28, 2009 at 9:24 AM | PERMALINK
Friendly amendment:
"it's clear a few too many on the right have had a few too many."
Posted by: sarabeth on May 28, 2009 at 9:25 AM | PERMALINK
Perhaps Sotomayor should skip the rice and pork and gorge on the beans prior to her confirmation hearing, then subject her unhinged inquisitors with silent opinions on their intellect.
Posted by: Chopin on May 28, 2009 at 9:28 AM | PERMALINK
I am partial to 'huevos con chirizo' and 'chile verde'. Obviously imparts a racial aspect to my thinking as an older white male.
Posted by: AmusedOldVet on May 28, 2009 at 9:28 AM | PERMALINK
Clearly she will not be able to rule fairly in cases involving Big Pig!
Posted by: martin on May 28, 2009 at 9:30 AM | PERMALINK
It could be worse. She could like arugula in her salad, Dijon mustard on her hot dog, or Swiss on her cheesesteak.
Posted by: noncarborundum on May 28, 2009 at 9:32 AM | PERMALINK
Ignorance is bliss for you people.
Laugh all you want, but we in the medical profession have known for years that spicy food of the kind eaten by Puerto Ricans, Mexicans and other immigrants has negative effects on mental performance.
Too many hot peppers makes for hotheadedness. Cumin and chiles cloud the reasoning process, whether you lefties admit it or not.
Posted by: Myke K on May 28, 2009 at 9:32 AM | PERMALINK
Wonder how many right wingers will demand that a Natalie Wood type play Judge, soon to be Justice, Sotomayer in a film about her life?
Posted by: berttheclock on May 28, 2009 at 9:41 AM | PERMALINK
Mikey, you've identified the primary problem with Obama's predecessor. George W. Bush's favorite cuisine is Mexican, and as a health professional you should contact him immediately to inform him of the damaging effects this toxic food is having on his brain. The nation, and the Bushes, owe you a debt of gratitude for pointing this out.
Posted by: bluestatedon on May 28, 2009 at 9:42 AM | PERMALINK
Why is The Hill publishing articles by The Onion? Do they have some sort of joint operating agreement?
Posted by: Screamin' Demon on May 28, 2009 at 9:44 AM | PERMALINK
Laugh all you want, but we in the medical profession have known for years that spicy food of the kind eaten by Puerto Ricans, Mexicans and other immigrants has negative effects on mental performance.
It takes a lot to make me laugh so early in the morning (especially when it's raining and your foot hurts), but thanks for this Myke. I really think you should call the FDA and have them label chilis WMDs. *nods seriously and non-sarcastically*
Posted by: CD on May 28, 2009 at 9:47 AM | PERMALINK
Richard Nixon reportedly liked to put ketchup on cottage cheese, so maybe there is a connection between menu choices and governance.
Posted by: Andy on May 28, 2009 at 9:49 AM | PERMALINK
Ah, but will conservatives demonstrate a similar scrutiny between the ill-gotten prescription diet of their Dear Leader, Kim Jong Limbaugh, and his broadcast responsibilities?
THAT should be the question of the moment....
Posted by: S. Waybright on May 28, 2009 at 9:51 AM | PERMALINK
If it's true that you are what you eat, we now have an explanation why Bush had the intellect of a cow.
Posted by: Danp on May 28, 2009 at 9:52 AM | PERMALINK
Republicans should cut to the chase and put forward their pick for supreme court justice: Ronald McDonald.
Ronald only eats American food, so we know he's on the right side of the law. He's a clown so the base will love him, and he's as white as the stripes on the flag. He's perfect.
Posted by: inkadu on May 28, 2009 at 9:52 AM | PERMALINK
Richard Nixon reportedly liked to put ketchup on cottage cheese, so maybe there is a connection between menu choices and governance.
That is actually a myth. He put A1 Steak Sauce on his cottage cheese, which is just as bad.
Posted by: shortstop is deeply humiliated that she knows this on May 28, 2009 at 9:54 AM | PERMALINK
I'm partial to carnitas and authentic Oaxacan mole negro, myself, so I guess I can give up any high court aspirations.
Posted by: doubtful on May 28, 2009 at 9:54 AM | PERMALINK
Wonder how many right wingers will demand that a Natalie Wood type play Judge, soon to be Justice, Sotomayer in a film about her life?
Posted by: berttheclock
With singing voice, of course, dubbed by Marni Nixon.
Posted by: DJ on May 28, 2009 at 9:54 AM | PERMALINK
mmmmmole negro. (Looking around hungrily) Who says it's not for breakfast?
Posted by: shortstop on May 28, 2009 at 9:55 AM | PERMALINK
Ah, yes, the marvelous Marnie Nixon of Seattle - She was such a "My Fair Lady", as well.
I believe that suspicion by the medical community about Mexican cuisine affecting the brain is from that splendid article from the New England Journal of Medicine concerning Gonzo. "Gonzo went Bonzo, Que"
Posted by: berttheclock on May 28, 2009 at 10:01 AM | PERMALINK
arroz, gandoles y pernir -- rice, beans and pork
Yum.
(Though I thought the latter was called "pernil.")
Posted by: Steve M. on May 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM | PERMALINK
Dam, just realized that be being nothing but a Repiglican Shitstain it has affected my ability to reason .. now I realize that I simply snivel stupidity as I splutter on pretending that I can indeed reason ........
Posted by: Myke K on May 28, 2009 at 10:17 AM | PERMALINK
Don't even think about getting between me and my cuchifritos.
Posted by: HoneyBearKelly on May 28, 2009 at 10:24 AM | PERMALINK
I think you're right, Steve M., pork roast is pernil, at least in Mexico and Central America. And gondoles is a new one on me also.
Posted by: sceptic on May 28, 2009 at 10:33 AM | PERMALINK
Shortstop wrote:
> He put A1 Steak Sauce on his cottage cheese, which is just as bad.
Indeed. Everyone knows it's Heinz 57 for cottage cheese.
Posted by: Andy on May 28, 2009 at 10:43 AM | PERMALINK
i've got yer dijon mustard right here.....
the new york times reports: "Today, Judge Sotomayor’s culinary tastes range from tuna fish and cottage cheese for lunch with clerks in her chambers, to her standard order at the Blue Ribbon Bakery: smoked sturgeon on toast, with Dijon mustard, onions and capers......"
swiped from john cole....
Posted by: dj spellchecka on May 28, 2009 at 10:44 AM | PERMALINK
@ Andy Re: Nixon... Everyone loves to trash him , but by today's standard he was a flamin' LIBRUL. among other things he created Environmental Protection Agency and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, instituting racial quotas and preferences through the Labor Department's "Philadelphia Plan," and supporting the National Endowment for the Arts. He also developed a policy toward Native Americans that is still in place today, proposed a Family Assistance Program to provide a guaranteed income to welfare recipients, and, after the 1972 election, implemented wage and price controls. Finally, Nixon cut a deal with House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Wilbur Mills to increase Social Security payments and index them to inflation, which Barone called a "tremendous piece of public policy" that lifted elderly people out of poverty.
Posted by: John R on May 28, 2009 at 10:45 AM | PERMALINK
Best pork cooking is from Michoacan where they have plenty of rendered lard. Ah, carnitas cooked in lard. Almost as good as fish and chips cooked the same way.
However, as I ate some "smokies", yesterday, with the excellent Roland's Dijon mustard slathered atop, your point, dj spellchecka?
Posted by: berttheclock on May 28, 2009 at 10:52 AM | PERMALINK
I think current Republicans have Alzheimers. They have lost all ability to think logically.
Posted by: Mari on May 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM | PERMALINK
John R wrote:
> Everyone loves to trash him , but by today's standard he was a flamin'
> LIBRUL. . . .
I entirely agree with you that, on many points, Nixon was saner than the current leaders of the GOP. But I remain unconvinced that being on the right side of all those things you mentioned absolves the very real, if somewhat less tangible, damage he did to his own office, to the federal government generally, and to the country as a whole.
Times do change, but there are fundamental and universal truths that know no bounds of time, culture or history. Steak sauce on cottage cheese is still disgusting.
Posted by: Andy on May 28, 2009 at 11:11 AM | PERMALINK
You're all being too quick to judge the Gopers on this. They're quite right. All too often we ignore the dietary choices of our politicians when considering them at our own peril. For example, had we but known that Cheney breakfasted on the hearts of infants, preferred a lunch of puppy-tartare, and regularly dined on the souls of the innocent, I think we could have seen long ago where his policy choices might lead us all.
Posted by: Diogenes on May 28, 2009 at 11:19 AM | PERMALINK
So many wins on this thread. Thanks for the laughs, guys!
Posted by: Gingerpye on May 28, 2009 at 11:23 AM | PERMALINK
I have yet to see a comment on this that points out that she must have said "muchoS platoS..." (although Puerto Rican s's can be hard to hear). Didn't anybody in this country ever take Spanish 101? By the way, it sounds delicious.
Posted by: jhill on May 28, 2009 at 11:44 AM | PERMALINK
They couldn't even bother to check their spelling. Yes, as far as I know -- and I have been eating Spanish food when I could find decent stuff for twenty five years -- it is "gandUles" not 'gandoles' and 'perniL,' not 'pernir.'
I wonder what they would have said if she had announced a preference for 'ropa vieja' a wonderful stew of shredded beef and peppers, but which translates, roughly, as 'old rope.'
Btw, Steve, you make the same mistake 'they' do. Unlike Mexican food, "Carribean Spanish" (Puerto Rican, Dominican and Cuban, particularly) is well seasoned, but not particularly 'hot' they don't use chili peppers that much. (Carribean ENGLISH food, i.e., Jamaican does, but that's a completely different cuisine.)
Posted by: Prup (aka Jim Benton) on May 28, 2009 at 11:44 AM | PERMALINK
This relates to the issue of "I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life." That wasn't a racist comment, because racism is the idea that other races are inherently inferior etc. Racism isn't about the salutatory effect of differing and special "experiences." Note that conservatives hate broad definitions of "racism" that make it easier to rope in people the conservatives say (often rightly) don't deserve the label.
It could be a sort of "reverse cultural chauvinism", but it is not "racism." Even then, who would criticize e.g. a military man who said, "I would hope a battle-tested wise old soldier would more often ... reach better conclusions than a civilian who never had to face warfare" etc? There's nothing outrageous about claiming that your experiences gave you greater wisdom than the crowd has. It could be from military service, it could be from going through the great depression, it could be from being an ethnic minority, or being a woman in a man's world - or any combination thereof.
tyrannogenius
Posted by: N e i l B ☼ on May 28, 2009 at 11:47 AM | PERMALINK
Unlike Mexican food, "Carribean Spanish" (Puerto Rican, Dominican and Cuban, particularly) is well seasoned, but not particularly 'hot' they don't use chili peppers that much.
Right. And "Spanish food," as you call it, includes such things as tapas, paella, sherry, manchego cheese, serrano ham...
A friend of mine has a horribly bigoted old father who hates every non-Anglo Saxon. He once denigrated some acquaintances by announcing that they "live like Spaniards," which still puts my friend and me in hysterics every time we think of it. Oh, to live like a Barcelonan...
Posted by: shortstop on May 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM | PERMALINK
The conservatives' risible (to quote George Will, who thinks he's so clever for using words like that) concern for SotamayOR's eating habits shows their simple-minded abuse of logic. Since SS said that she's informed by her ethnic-related experiences, ergo *all* of them carry significant weight. Conservatives can't parse ideas like "some of", subdivisions within a category, etc. Their sophomoric, caricature-Aristotelianism is mirrored in their simplistic moral calculus, such as it is.
Posted by: Neil B ☺ on May 28, 2009 at 12:17 PM | PERMALINK
To repeat something I read on a blog recently (sorry, don't recall where), the unspoken assumption on the right seems to be that white, straight males' perspective is the default, neutral, "normal" one, and that anyone else's is therefore both suspect and likely to upset the well-ordered, established system.
If there's ever been a better argument for upsetting that particular apple cart, just on principle, I haven't heard it.
Posted by: Andy on May 28, 2009 at 12:31 PM | PERMALINK
This relates to the issue of "I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."
Neil, Your comment is true regarding the quote, but omits the critical point that the quote is taken out of context. Her speech was saying "I would hope....blahblah, BUT...." - essentially, this is how one would naturally feel, but as a judge one has to recognize this human tendancy and transcend it.
Frankly, I think it's reprehensible the conservatives are cherry picking this, and it's inexcusable of the media to let them get away with it unchallenged.
Posted by: g on May 28, 2009 at 12:40 PM | PERMALINK
OK, wait... When I was in PR a couple of years ago, I'm pretty sure beans were called abichuela. Anybody know if this is a different kind of beans?
Posted by: Kris on May 28, 2009 at 1:32 PM | PERMALINK
HoneyBear K: While your at the counter, get me a couple of alcapurrias, and if they have a good rellenos de papa...
Posted by: Prup (aka Jim Benton) on May 28, 2009 at 2:25 PM | PERMALINK
Well, even the update's Spanish terms for the dishes are incorrect.
The phrase that reads "mucho platos de arroz, gandoles y pernir..." should read "muchos platos de arroz con gandules y pernil" (many dishes of rice with pigeon peas and roast pork shoulder).
Posted by: Bluecrab on May 28, 2009 at 3:24 PM | PERMALINK