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June 11, 2009

SHE CAN'T HELP HERSELF.... On Tuesday night, CNN invited Liz Cheney back for yet another prime-time interview, and she delivered a rather predictable performance. She falsely claimed that closing Gitmo "makes us less safe" and badly misrepresented George W. Bush's comments on Guantanamo Bay.

As a reward for the latest in a series of dishonest television appearances, and in an apparent bid to drive me batty, CNN invited Liz Cheney back onto CNN again last night, for another prime-time interview. And wouldn't you know it, the former vice president's daughter used her media platform, once again, to attack the president.

"...I would say one of the things that is troubling to Americans, I think, is extent to which this administration is focused on the president's popularity overseas. We've now seen several different occasions when he's been on the international trips, where he's not willing to say, flat out, 'I believe in American exceptionalism. I believe unequivocally, unapologetically, America is the best nation that ever existed in history, and clearly that exists today.' Instead we've seen him do what we saw him do in the speech in Cairo, which is sort of, 'on one hand this, on the other hand that,' and then attempt to put himself sort of above it all. I think that troubles people."

It's always entertaining to hear discredited, unelected Republican activists speak on behalf millions of Americans. Liz Cheney doesn't just say, "This troubles me"; she says this is "troubling to Americans." How does she know? She just does.

As for the "substance," Cheney insisted she's never heard the president say, "I believe in American exceptionalism." That would be true, if it weren't false. On April 5, during an overseas trip, the president said, "I believe in American exceptionalism."

In fact, I'd encourage readers to read exactly what President Obama said when asked about "American exceptionalism." His remarks were thoughtful and nuanced -- and apparently went right over Cheney's head.

As for her demand that the president go to foreign audiences and tell them, "America is the best nation that ever existed in history" I'm not sure what, exactly, she'd hope to see Obama achieve with this. The president reminded his audience in Cairo, for example, "The United States has been one of the greatest sources of progress that the world has ever known. We were born out of revolution against an empire. We were founded upon the ideal that all are created equal, and we have shed blood and struggled for centuries to give meaning to those words -- within our borders, and around the world." He reminded his audience in Strasbourg a couple of months ago, "Instead of recognizing the good that America so often does in the world, there have been times where Europeans choose to blame America for much of what's bad." He told his audience in Berlin last year, "I also know how much I love America. I know that for more than two centuries, we have strived -- at great cost and great sacrifice -- to form a more perfect union."

But for Liz Cheney, this isn't quite good enough. As Ben Armbruster explained very well, Cheney "essentially wants [Obama] to stand in front of a room full of foreigners and say, 'We're better than you.' This is exactly the kind of cowboy diplomacy that has hurt America's relationship with its allies over the last eight years and ultimately its standing in the world."

Steve Benen 4:30 PM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (47)
 
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Sounds to me like Liz Cheney and Michele Bachmann should start their own consulting firm. We just need to come up with a catchy name for them...

Posted by: Matt on June 11, 2009 at 4:35 PM | PERMALINK

Cheney insisted she's never heard the president say, "I believe in American exceptionalism."

She's probably playing that old game, whereby she can justify her claim by saying that what she really said was that she hasn't PERSONALLY heard the President say that..

Posted by: kanopsis on June 11, 2009 at 4:35 PM | PERMALINK

At this point, the best approach is to email CNN, informing them that you will be boycotting all CNN programming until they stop giving Liz Cheney free air time to spew her vile propaganda, and then to STOP WATCHING CNN.

I've been doing it for months now and feel much, much better. :)

Posted by: bdop4 on June 11, 2009 at 4:35 PM | PERMALINK

This Just In: Steve Benen Discovers Republicans Are Lying Douchebags. Next up, some say, Puppies Are Cute. After this.

Posted by: Cazart on June 11, 2009 at 4:38 PM | PERMALINK

I quit watching CNN years ago, except for immediate, breaking news, and even that, not much. They're useless, a ghost of what they once were.

Liz is clearly intending to run for something. It's the only explanation, other than she loves the attention and loves being on the teebee.

Posted by: LL on June 11, 2009 at 4:39 PM | PERMALINK

Can't Liz just Tweet on Twitter like all the other Republican losers and forego subjecting us to her?

Posted by: ckelly on June 11, 2009 at 4:42 PM | PERMALINK

I believe in "American exceptionalism" too. But unlike Liz Cheney and the Republicans, I don't want to preen like a professional wrestler and shout about how great we are.

Instead of 'talking the talk', I want my country to 'walk the walk'. That means that American should always strive to be better than any other country. And I expect that our allies, especially the ones we supply with weapons, should always behave better than our enemies.

I look at my country the same way I look at my children -- that they should be the best, but that they should keep trying to be even better. Like my children, the United States is a work in progress.

Liz Cheney seems to think of the United States as The Fatherland, a country whose actions should never be questioned (when Republicans are running things, anyway).


Posted by: SteveT on June 11, 2009 at 4:42 PM | PERMALINK

"American exceptionalism"?? What kind of utter crap is that?

Posted by: Timpanist on June 11, 2009 at 4:46 PM | PERMALINK

CNN invited Liz Cheney back for yet another prime-time...

...episode of their new reality series, Roaring Media Whores."

* The term "media" in the series title, it has been rumored, is entirely optional....

Posted by: S. Waybright on June 11, 2009 at 4:47 PM | PERMALINK

His remarks were thoughtful and nuanced -- and apparently went right over Cheney's head.

Tautological.

Posted by: Davis X. Machina on June 11, 2009 at 4:52 PM | PERMALINK

"I'm not sure what, exactly, she'd hope to see Obama achieve with this."

What she hopes to see is Obama kowtow to every single ridiculous thing she suggests.

Obviously.

Posted by: Cal Gal on June 11, 2009 at 5:02 PM | PERMALINK

Steve, you've got to listen to me. Listen: Stop Watching Cable News. Got it? Stop watching it! It's bad for you.

Just try broadcast news and PBS for a couple of weeks. You'll see. And you'll thank me.

Posted by: CT on June 11, 2009 at 5:10 PM | PERMALINK

As Ben Armbruster explained very well, Cheney "essentially wants [Obama] to stand in front of a room full of foreigners and say, 'We're better than you.'

And what's more, he has to do this without appearing elitist.

Posted by: Master Mahan on June 11, 2009 at 5:10 PM | PERMALINK

Matt,

How about naming the consultancy, "Bachmann - Cheney Overwrought", cuz they are all about Takin' Care of Business???

Posted by: Rod Hoffman on June 11, 2009 at 5:18 PM | PERMALINK
... Liz Cheney and Michele Bachmann should start their own consulting firm ...

How about "The Prince Philip School for Diplomacy". He's well known in the UK for opening his mouth, and putting his foot straight in it, the moment he speaks when abroad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A269976

Posted by: royalblue_tom on June 11, 2009 at 5:21 PM | PERMALINK

Oh, but she's such a great guest. Truthfulness has nothing to do with it. I don't blame Liz. It seems to be in her nature to distort, lie, and smear. She's only availing herself of every opportunity given. I really fault the bozos at CNN for giving her an open mike to spout her crap unchallanged with the facts.

Posted by: sparrow on June 11, 2009 at 5:28 PM | PERMALINK

Liz Cheney is, like her father, a dick.

Posted by: David Bailey on June 11, 2009 at 5:36 PM | PERMALINK

What Liz Cheney and Karl Rove are trying to do is shift the Overton Window to the right so that concepts hitherto regarded as preposterous do not appear so awful compared to the even more preposterous positions they are now taking. Sort of like Dick Cheney declaring that Reagan showed that deficits don't matter to allow the Bush administration to run up even more horrendous deficits.

Posted by: Independent on June 11, 2009 at 5:39 PM | PERMALINK

i know that when my neighbors invite me over, i go to their houses, walk into their living rooms, and say "My house is the best house ever, way better than this house, motherfuckers!"

that's totally proper, highly-productive behavior.

Posted by: steve s on June 11, 2009 at 5:39 PM | PERMALINK

And CNN is complicit in Cheney's shifting of the Overton Window.

Posted by: Independent on June 11, 2009 at 5:40 PM | PERMALINK

If Liz Cheney continues to appear in the media to promote the lie that closing GITMO makes us less safe, and if she insists on defending the Bush/Cheney torture doctrine, then I suggest that we start blogging about Liz Cheney's involvement in the Bush/Cheney cabal. In 1999, Liz and her lawyer husband, Phillip J. Perry, were both working with Dick Cheney to screen possible VP candidates. After the election they both worked with Cheney while he chose most of the player in Bush's cabinet and the DOJ. Perry was involved in some of Cheney's later legal dealings. Liz was rewarded with a job in the State Department. Nepotism was another one of the Cheney legacies. I recommend the book, Angler by Barton Gellman.

Posted by: Carol A on June 11, 2009 at 5:42 PM | PERMALINK

On Tuesday night, CNN invited Liz Cheney back for yet another prime-time interview

Why don't they just give Liz her own fucking show?

Posted by: electrolite on June 11, 2009 at 5:46 PM | PERMALINK

Well put, commenter Steve T.!

Isn't there any major media that will just say no when the unelected, unqualified, useless and thoroughly wrong likes of Liz Cheney (or any other political offspring) come calling?

Posted by: Chris S. on June 11, 2009 at 5:54 PM | PERMALINK

The important point here is not Liz Cheney's disgusting blatant lies, but rather that the giant media corporation behind CNN is deliberately, knowingly and intentionally using Liz Cheney's disgusting blatant lies to attack Obama and to undermine public support for and confidence in the Obama administration and the Democratic majority in Congress.

Given that CNN, along with the other corporate-owned media, consistently propagandizes the American people by filling their airtime with the disgusting blatant lies of right-wing partisan Republican propagandists like Liz Cheney, and almost completely excludes any real "left wing" voices (e.g. labor, environmentalists, pacifists, socialists, advocates of single-payer medical insurance) in a deliberate campaign to undermine public support for and confidence in the Obama administration and the Democratic majority in Congress and hammer the American people with the corporate agenda, one might think that Steve Benen would be writing at least occasional blog articles about the problem of the near-totalitarian control that a handful of giant corporations hold over the mass media from which most Americans get most of their information rather than focusing on whatever drivel one or another propagandist spews on any given day.

But pardon me. I forget that -- as commenter NonyNony reminded me the other day -- Steve Benen's articles are written for "comedic effect", and this is a political comedy site, not a place for serious analysis of serious problems.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on June 11, 2009 at 6:18 PM | PERMALINK

she says this is "troubling to Americans." How does she know? She just does.

You have to remember that people like Cheney only consider other people that agree with them to be real Americans.

Posted by: qwerty on June 11, 2009 at 6:19 PM | PERMALINK

No, she can't help herself.

And neither can SecularAnimist.

Posted by: Susan Johnson on June 11, 2009 at 6:27 PM | PERMALINK

I believe in American exceptionalism. I believe we're an exceptionally spoiled, ignorant, wasteful, trivial, self-absorbed, narrow-minded, over-medicated, overweight, consumption-addicted, advertising-brainwashed, celebrity-obsessed country.

Posted by: Danno on June 11, 2009 at 6:36 PM | PERMALINK
Matt: "Sounds to me like Liz Cheney and Michele Bachmann should start their own consulting firm. We just need to come up with a catchy name for them."

LILA KADDOGUE & Associates, LLC.

When it comes to such important matters, it's always best to call in a gay professional with an innate affinity for high camp.

And surely, there are very few campier than Ms. Cheney and Ms. Bachmann, both of whom literally beg to be immortalized in drag persona.

Posted by: Out & About in the Castro on June 11, 2009 at 6:38 PM | PERMALINK

Just how insecure is Liz Cheney?

I love my mom, but I don't go to other people's homes and proclaim "My mother is unequivocally the best parent who has ever lived in all of human history."

Posted by: Mike W on June 11, 2009 at 6:40 PM | PERMALINK

David Bailey: "Liz Cheney is, like her father, a dick."

Well, you obviously don't know dick -- (sigh!) while I, on the other hand, often find myself knowing way too much, and wishing that I never did ...

Posted by: Lynne C. on June 11, 2009 at 6:49 PM | PERMALINK
Mike W: "I love my mom, but I don't go to other people's homes and proclaim 'My mother is unequivocally the best parent who has ever lived in all of human history.'"

My mother? Let me tell you about my mother ...

Posted by: Leon from "Blade Runner" on June 11, 2009 at 6:55 PM | PERMALINK

I refuse to allow Liz Cheney to lecture anyone on patriotism. She and her ilk have gotten thousands killed and have hurt America in many tangible ways. She has lain with dogs, and has come up a torturing flea bag.

Posted by: Sparko on June 11, 2009 at 6:59 PM | PERMALINK

I would point out that it is the Cretins' News Network that keeps inviting this airheaded bimbo moron back.

Posted by: TCinLA on June 11, 2009 at 7:31 PM | PERMALINK

Isn't it neurotic to feel you have to tell others you're better than them?

And, isn't it really sick to then feel you have to force those other people to repeat it back...with feeling?

That's why the sicko Right were really into the Bushies. I only wish the whole public had figured that out in 2004.

Posted by: MarkH on June 11, 2009 at 7:35 PM | PERMALINK

"We were founded upon the ideal that all are created equal, and we have shed blood and struggled for centuries to give meaning to those words -- within our borders and around the world."

Is that part "around the world" true?

Have we fought wars explicitly for human rights? I'm blanking... WWII was ARGUABLY self-defense and aiding allies in the European part, and self-defense in the Pacific part. (I did say *arguably*). Would we have let Japan keep parts of China, the Philippines, etc., if they had stopped there? Would we have let Hitler keep Poland? (I'm ignorant in WWII history, so I don't know).

Posted by: flubber on June 11, 2009 at 7:38 PM | PERMALINK

Liz Cheney is famous and listened to for exactly the same reason that Jonah Goldberg is: They both have a parent who is on the uphill side of mean and slimey. Why the media works like that is anybody's guess.

Posted by: Jim Strain on June 11, 2009 at 7:39 PM | PERMALINK

Surely I'm not the only one here tired of The Further Adventures of the Cheneys? Why are they worth your trouble and our -- assuming I'm speaking for more than myself -- boredom, Steve?

Really. I don't get it. We've got more interesting and important topics available, no?

Posted by: lotus on June 11, 2009 at 7:46 PM | PERMALINK

Keep your cool
We must not sucumb to the bait that are all the non sense speech on Fox and else.
Their ultimate goal is to have weak minds take action like these white supremacist.
They want to start a war within the US, between american, and seize power.
Avoid Fox news and take yoga classes

Posted by: paloma on June 11, 2009 at 7:57 PM | PERMALINK

Cheney forgot to add the "nananananana" part.

Posted by: Bonnie on June 11, 2009 at 9:19 PM | PERMALINK

That's it. This woman is making me crazy... and pissed off... and I don't even watch TV!
I'm gonna write a letter to CNN right now. Won't do much good but it's good for my blood pressure.

Posted by: cha on June 11, 2009 at 10:14 PM | PERMALINK

The Lizzer seems to have become the primary line of defense for a few individuals who cannot appear in person (such as David Addington and John Yoo) and those whose public appearances cause the sky to swirl like a black cauldron and begin raining toads (like her daddy). She's just a loyal footsoldier for the cabal, getting plenty of facetime and pumping out the vibe. Will it keep those folks out of jail? They were probably never going to jail anyway. Quick! send out some colourful butterflies or something, to distract the cloddish masses while they forget.

Lizzer's near-constant appearances should be read as a signal of how worried they really are, but I don't think they were ever in any real danger of prosecution. I'd love to be wrong, but I don't think so.

Posted by: Mark on June 11, 2009 at 10:23 PM | PERMALINK

cha: "I'm gonna write a letter to CNN right now. Won't do much good but it's good for my blood pressure."

I know you're mad, dear, but let's think this through first, and not go about this haphazardly. You need to say something about Liz Cheney in your letter that immediately grabs the CNN brass's attention.

Hey, I know! What if you told CNN that the red lingerie found by Thai police in David Carradine's hotel room belonged to her?

Posted by: Out & About in the Castro on June 11, 2009 at 11:51 PM | PERMALINK

What threatens America most is having a couple of half-cocked Cheney's running off at the mouth on TV.

Posted by: vwmeggs on June 12, 2009 at 12:53 AM | PERMALINK

Personally, I say American exceptionalism is bunk. America has its own history, culture, values, and people...just like every other nation. To borrow from Kibology, we are all exceptional in exactly the same way!

Patriotism is a mug's game. When my country does something worthy of admiration, I don't need patriotism to feel it, and when it does something worthy of shame, patriotism doesn't hide it.

Posted by: Royko on June 12, 2009 at 1:58 AM | PERMALINK

Liz Cheney may not be able to help herself -- after all, her act gets her on TV! -- but CNN can sure as hell help putting her on the air all the time.

Posted by: Gregory on June 12, 2009 at 7:42 AM | PERMALINK

American exceptionalism ? I bet that must start with the doctrine, "Christian" in nature, that was called "Manifest Destiny" that was used to justify the genocide of the American Indians. Yes, that is really fucking exceptional ............

Posted by: stormskies on June 12, 2009 at 9:19 AM | PERMALINK

No, Liz, it doesn't trouble me at all. In fact, it makes me quite happy to hear him say the even-handed things that he does. I dare say, fairness is a good thing.

Posted by: DCX2 on June 12, 2009 at 11:15 AM | PERMALINK




 

 
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