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June 12, 2009

A FEW TOO MANY FEUDS.... I'll concede I haven't followed the bank and forth between Sarah Palin and David Letterman very closely. As I understand it, the "Late Show" host told some inappropriate jokes, the governor expressed her concerns, and Letterman apologized, conceding his attempt at humor was "ugly" and in "poor taste."

Apparently, though, Palin wants to keep the fight going against the television personality.

Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska continued her assault on CBS's David Letterman on Friday morning in an interview on NBC's "Today" show, calling the late-night host's efforts to apologize for remarks about her daughter "a weak excuse" and saying they were "a degrading comment on all young women." [...]

On the "Today" show from Texas on Friday morning, where the governor is promoting a gas pipeline for her state, she characterized Mr. Letterman's remarks as a reference to "statutory rape" and called it a sad commentary about today's culture that this sort of discussion would be considered comedy. Mr. Lauer prodded her to explain whether she really believed that Mr. Letterman posed a danger to young women, citing an earlier statement that read: "The Palins have no intention of providing a ratings boost for David Letterman by appearing on his show. Plus, it would be wise to keep Willow away from David Letterman."

Asked about that, Ms. Palin said her insinuation wasn't in bad taste, offering: "Take it however you want to take it."

Whether Palin likes Letterman is of no consequence. If Palin wants to suggest that the popular talk-show host can't be trusted around teenagers, that's odd, but not especially important in the larger political context.

What I do find interesting about all of this is the constant stream of fights the Alaskan governor seems to find herself in the middle of, most of which have nothing to do with her official responsibilities.

Palin is in a feud with Letterman. She was in a feud with the organizers of the fundraising dinner for the Senate and House Republican campaign committees. When beauty pageant contestant Carrie Prejean made headlines, Palin decided to jump into the argument. The governor has been in a feud with her teenage daughter's ex-fiance. Palin has even been in a feud with actress Ashley Judd.

Far be it for me to offer Sarah Palin advice, but I have a radical idea: maybe the governor can try an "above the fray" approach for a while?

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Republicans love them their victims, don't they?

Sure beats talking about things she knows nothing about though, which is pretty much everything.

Posted by: slappy magoo on June 12, 2009 at 12:33 PM | PERMALINK

Normally, we can count on right wing populists like Palin to reflexively attack Hollywood and New York elites like Letterman because it plays so well with their base. But here is a case where that reflex has resulted is Palin's own family getting caught in the cross fire. Yet, she doesn't seem the least concerned about having her family become collateral damage. Amazing.

Posted by: Ted Frier on June 12, 2009 at 12:34 PM | PERMALINK

As Letterman made clear, the jokes involved the 18-yr-old daughter, and she was not even the butt of the jokes. Eliot Spitzer and A-Rod were. And his swipe at Gov. Palin over her clothes was far more tame than what he regularly says about Spitzer, McGreevey, Bill Clinton, etc.

But none of that matters, of course. This is really just another move in her campaign to keep her name in the news.

Posted by: Baldrick on June 12, 2009 at 12:36 PM | PERMALINK

Forget "above the fray" when what she needs to do is stay "above the 49th."

Posted by: Th on June 12, 2009 at 12:36 PM | PERMALINK

People like this are in continuous conflict with their environment wherever they are.

That's why so many live in the hinterlands where a permanent state of conflict can seem less illegal and they can actually shoot things.

Posted by: alan on June 12, 2009 at 12:36 PM | PERMALINK

Far be it for me to offer Sarah Palin advice - Steve B

Many have tried. Many have failed.

Posted by: Danp on June 12, 2009 at 12:39 PM | PERMALINK

I'm too lazy to track the statements down, but the Palin's responses to Letterman's comments referenced "Hollywood/New York" types, and how Alaskans don't agree with this or that...

Read their statements. They clearly demonstrate that the Todd and Sarah Palin only care about Letterman's comment in the political context, not the personal (as they claim). It's manufactured outrage.

Posted by: Chris on June 12, 2009 at 12:39 PM | PERMALINK

I love that this woman, who put her dysfunctional family in the national spotlight and exploited them for whatever political gain she could, is now complaining about late-night snark...as if she herself were not entirely responsible for making her daughters into public figures worthy of mockery.

Posted by: Mahnkenstein on June 12, 2009 at 12:40 PM | PERMALINK

This is Palin's m.o., dating back to her early days as a Wasilla council member. Fight fight fight -- with us or against us.

Fought with the mayor who recruited her onto the council? check

Fought with all the department heads in the city? check

Fought with the state politicians who recruited her onto the state boards? check

Fought with the Alaska legislature -- including the Republican leadership? check

Fought with McCain's campaign staff? check

There is a reason for this. She's an idiot who doesn't listen to other people. When someone disagrees with her she dismisses them with scorn. (Look back to her interviews and some of her visual reactions to the questions she was asked.)

Posted by: Anonny on June 12, 2009 at 12:41 PM | PERMALINK


Shouldn't somebody remind her that she's still an elected official, and not some kind of middle-aged Paris Hilton??

Posted by: neilt on June 12, 2009 at 12:44 PM | PERMALINK

As an Alaskan, I just wish she'd do her job. Ever since she got a taste of the national spotlight, we schmucks up north just can't seem to be able to get our calls returned. For as few of us as there are, this is a very complex state to run, and there's a lot of work to do.

Posted by: nemodog on June 12, 2009 at 12:45 PM | PERMALINK

Palin is politically incompetent.

Imagine another scenario: She accepts Letterman's apology and agrees to come on his show. Letterman would be in complete caution mode, and Palin would have Letterman eating out of her hand.

She could even invite Letterman to host a show from Fairbanks (and what if Letterman accepts?). She could project herself as gracious, human, funny and totally in charge of a delicate situation.

Only Sarah Palin could take a golden opportunity like this and totally blow it.

Posted by: Northern Pike on June 12, 2009 at 12:45 PM | PERMALINK

as is evidenced by the ongoing posts @ the mudflats, it would be nice if maggie o'connell would stop fighting w/us here in the lower 48 and actually did some governoring up in alaksa, where she was elected to work in the first frickin' place!

Posted by: skippy on June 12, 2009 at 12:45 PM | PERMALINK

...maybe the governor can try an "above the fray" approach for a while?

If she does that, she disappears from the news, and that's worst of all.

The devolved info-tainment creature that "the news" has become exists in symbiosis with colorful characters, even -- or especially -- stupid ones, because they elicit emotional reactions, which boosts recall of advertising, which shows up in both ratings and more sophisticated recall surveys, which increases revenue. In other words, Sarah Palin's food-fights helps sell stuff, as I'm sure she knows perfectly well.

So I wouldn't be too disappointed if your advice wasn't followed.

Posted by: bleh on June 12, 2009 at 12:48 PM | PERMALINK

Palin is not a stateswoman. She became a vice presidential candidate because John McCain is a senile lecher. She became a governor because Alaska has the highest per capita alcohol consumption in the country. It is unreasonable for you to expect behavior from her that she has never exhibited before.

Posted by: hells littlest angel on June 12, 2009 at 12:48 PM | PERMALINK

... maybe the governor can try an "above the fray" approach for a while?2

Actually, wasn't it pretty much her combative abilities that endeared her so much to the Republican base last year?

And if one looks at how Sarah Palin advanced her political career in Alaska, it becomes immediately obvious that 'above the fray' is terra incognita for her. One of the first things she did once she had climbed a step on the ladder, was to kneecap the guys who helped her do the climbing.

Posted by: SRW1 on June 12, 2009 at 12:49 PM | PERMALINK

Narcissistic personality disorder. Textbook.

Posted by: Hoyt Pollard on June 12, 2009 at 12:49 PM | PERMALINK

Not that he should have, but Letterman didn't in any way apologize. With his characteristic ironic tone and expressions, he further skewered Palin and her ridiculously shallow hissy fit. Of course, I guess it is redundant to describe Palin as "ridiculously shallow."

Posted by: Acorvid on June 12, 2009 at 12:51 PM | PERMALINK

WELL THEY SPELLED PALIN'S NAME RIGHT

Baldwick: "As Letterman made clear, the jokes involved the 18-yr-old daughter, and she was not even the butt of the jokes. Eliot Spitzer and A-Rod were. And his swipe at Gov. Palin over her clothes was far more tame than what he regularly says about Spitzer, McGreevey, Bill Clinton, etc"

I saw the Wednesday night show, the jokes WERE about A-ROD and Spitzer. And if Palin can't take a few jokes these days, she should forget politics.

If this is an attempt to keep her name in the press, "As long as they spell you name right." Well it's working but she should remember that piece of advice is attributed to Mae West who cultivated an image most politicians would shun.

Posted by: Kurt on June 12, 2009 at 12:52 PM | PERMALINK

The only mistake that Letterman made in this was confusing which daughter he was talking about. Maybe the Letterman staff didn't know which daughter was at the baseball game, thinking it was the 18 year old.

Unfortunately, Willow was at the game.

But it is sick beyond imagination for Palin to continue to suggest that Letterman intended to make jokes about Willow, actually regardless of the joke, Willow is not part of the news. But Letterman was talking about Palin's oldest, who has been in the news, has put herself in front of the cameras and lights, and she isn't a minor. She's 18.

At most, Letterman should apologize for the confusion, make it clear that Willow was at the game, making it seem like he was joking about her. But if Palin continues to refuse his explanation, I think Letterman should just keep at it, pointing out what Palin is doing.

Posted by: tomj on June 12, 2009 at 12:52 PM | PERMALINK

Hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn.

Palin is incapable of "staying above the fray."

The froth coming out of her mouth tis but the

rabid drivel of a pit-bull.

To be OUTRAGED about the Letterman swipe actually reveals the utter incompetency of Sarah.

She thinks she's a diva.

Last time I checked, she's an elected official of a state in which her husband sort of wanted to withdraw from the USA!

Posted by: Tom Nicholson on June 12, 2009 at 12:55 PM | PERMALINK

Letterman should apologize NOW. This is not going away. Boycotts are coming if he doesn't end this NOW. He cannot win in this fight.He will soon have to grovel for forgivness. Apologize now.

Posted by: sonny ablaza on June 12, 2009 at 12:56 PM | PERMALINK

I don't watch DL much any more. I thought the joke was pretty stupid and he should have apologized more strongly. But the Palins are complete opportunists and have no credibility on the subject of incitement or on rape. Sarah Palin made plenty of incendiary comments during her vp run, and Alaska charges rape victims for rape kits used to investigate that crime. I'd feel more comfortable leaving my daughter with Letterman than the Palins any day of the week.

Posted by: trnc on June 12, 2009 at 12:59 PM | PERMALINK

"Above the fray" does not really capture what she is failing to do here. You need to be at least moderately involved first before you can decide to back out and be "above the fray."

Ashley Judd's group and David Letterman may have brought up Palin or her family in ads/jokes but as a politician does this really mean you should be directly involved? Do people expect that kind of response every time a politician is criticized? And the Prejean nonsense... no one would have linked Palin to that mess if she hadn't dove straight into it, so had she stayed out it wouldn't be an example of staying above the fray at all.

Posted by: OmerosPeanut on June 12, 2009 at 1:01 PM | PERMALINK

Above the fray? Fray is all she's got!

Posted by: Sarah Barracuda on June 12, 2009 at 1:01 PM | PERMALINK

I think that Palin and her husband are unusually successful examples of the white trash who used to congregate on the Jerry Springer show: dumber than Georgia dirt and responding to any challenge with vindictive fury. They'll now insinuate (and maybe even believe) that Letterman is a pedophile because of his temerity in joking about them. They (and their offspring) should be banished back to their trailer park.

Posted by: Aaron Baker on June 12, 2009 at 1:03 PM | PERMALINK

"The only mistake that Letterman made in this was confusing which daughter he was talking about. Maybe the Letterman staff didn't know which daughter was at the baseball game, thinking it was the 18 year old.

Unfortunately, Willow was at the game. "

Exactly. Willow and Bristol look just alike. This is not a hard mistake to make if you really don't follow the Palins' in the tabloid websites.

Posted by: Impeach Jay Bybee on June 12, 2009 at 1:05 PM | PERMALINK

"Boycotts are coming if he doesn't end this NOW."

Ooooo, I bet Letterman is scared. This kind of thing only increases his ratings. Boycott him all you want.

Posted by: Kurt on June 12, 2009 at 1:06 PM | PERMALINK

sonny ablaza - Did you watch the clip of Letterman? He's apologized as much as he wants to, and I found it very reasonable. Still unhappy? Go boycott, please. Go away. Stop watching. It just makes you angry. Never watch again. It's the right thing to do. Off, off, TV. kthxbai.

Posted by: Travis on June 12, 2009 at 1:07 PM | PERMALINK

It's very difficult to tell the difference between political calculation and serious personality pathology these days, but the governor's life history does suggest the latter.

Posted by: karen on June 12, 2009 at 1:08 PM | PERMALINK

Letterman should not apologize any more than he has.

The best way to handle trailer trash is to ignore them.

Posted by: IntelVet on June 12, 2009 at 1:09 PM | PERMALINK

You hear about famously thin-skinned politicians (hello Nixon) but this is ridiculous. Palin just doesn't seem to have the emotional maturity to be a national politician. Again, there are plenty of cry-babies in office. But Palin just doesn't seem to have the filter necessary to know when to freak-out and when, to paraphrase The One, to just brush it off your shoulder. Maybe she should drink less caffeine.

Posted by: NHCt on June 12, 2009 at 1:09 PM | PERMALINK

The jokes WERE in poor taste and it is NEVER alright to call a woman 'slutty', politician or no. It is NEVER OK to make jokes about the kids that have nothing to do with their parents chosen careers. That being said, if Palin had FOCUSED on those parts of the remarks and left the name-calling and victimhood out of the discussion, she may have had a valid argument and drawn people into her web. As it is she is incapable of that kind of subtlety.

Posted by: SYSPROG on June 12, 2009 at 1:09 PM | PERMALINK

Sarah Palin: Tonya Harding in mukluks.

Posted by: MissMudd on June 12, 2009 at 1:09 PM | PERMALINK

If Palin had worried as much about keeping Levi away from Bristol as she is about keeping Willow away from Dave, there might not be another unemployed, single, teenage mother in Alaska.

Oh, if only Palin's actions ever matched her words.

Posted by: gttim on June 12, 2009 at 1:13 PM | PERMALINK

Lefties are scared of a strong woman.

By continuing to chase David Letterman down like the dirty dog he is, Palin is showing America that she will stop at nothing to protect her children.

That's something that those of of you whose families don't have five kids created from a variety of creative mother-father combos know nothing about.

Posted by: Myke K on June 12, 2009 at 1:19 PM | PERMALINK

If Palin had worried as much about keeping Levi away from Bristol as she is about keeping Willow away from Dave

She ought to keep Willow away from Todd after what happened with Bristol.

Posted by: tasteless voice of the left on June 12, 2009 at 1:20 PM | PERMALINK

What's ironic is the only person who was "statutorily raped" was Palin's daughter Bristol, who was then held up as a model on the campaign trail.

i do suspect that whenever she picks a fight, her fundraising increases. There are alot of old, frightened white people out there hanging on every word uttered in Fox News, Palin's their hero.

Posted by: Shine on June 12, 2009 at 1:24 PM | PERMALINK

I thought Letterman was out of line attacking Palin's daughter, and it doesn't matter to me which daughter he meant, the 14-year-old or the 18-year-old. But by keeping this feud in the national spotlight the Palins are just making it worse for their daughters.

Posted by: Joe Buck on June 12, 2009 at 1:27 PM | PERMALINK

I wouldn't say he apologized. He set the record straight (as if he had to) concerning who he was referring to. Other than that, his "apology" was just another comedy bit getting laughs at Palin's expense.

...and for the record, she does look slutty.

Posted by: Saint Zak on June 12, 2009 at 1:28 PM | PERMALINK

Lefties are scared of a strong woman.

Yep, cos nothing's stronger than holding up your 14-y.o. daughter as a human shield over your thin skin.

vicious pitbull c^^t like Palin

Not cool. Even against Palin.

*(redacted)

Posted by: ThresherK on June 12, 2009 at 1:30 PM | PERMALINK

Palin is polishing her 'spunkiness' factor. There's nothing conservatives appreciate so much as a 'spunky' moron fighting a losing battle. They view this as, somehow, noble. Beats me, too.

Posted by: numi on June 12, 2009 at 1:30 PM | PERMALINK

Meanwhile the donations are no doubt pouring into SarahPAC, which, of course, is exactly what she intended. She'll prolong this "feud" until she's squeezed every dime she can out of her moronic supporters. Then she'll manufacture some other offense, real or imagined, and on and on and on.

And I can't believe how much time Lauer gave her this morning just so she could keep making the very same whiny points over and over. Okay, he started by asking her about Alaska's new whiz-bang natural gas pipeline, but he didn't even ding her about partnering with Canada instead of an American company.

Can somebody please make this woman go away. I feel like I'm the blackboard and she's the fingernails.

Posted by: 3reddogs on June 12, 2009 at 1:32 PM | PERMALINK

Far be it for me to offer Sarah Palin advice, but I have a radical idea: maybe the governor can try an "above the fray" approach for a while?

What for? Her base lives for this crap. They're all about fake victimhood and cheap drama, always need an enemy, and use constant hissyfits about imagined or exaggerated personal slights as a means of avoiding any substantive policy discussion whatsoever.

Palin once again crassly exploiting her children by dragging this out in a Springer screechfest while Alaska burns -- well, that gives her bona fide goddess status in this crowd.

Posted by: shortstop on June 12, 2009 at 1:33 PM | PERMALINK

Ya know, the fact that they implied that Letterman is a child molester, and one who would like to molest their very own daughter...is pretty much the most childish thing I've ever heard from an elected official (and I've heard some pretty fcking childish things).

Are the Palin's perpetually stuck in Jr High?

Posted by: neilt on June 12, 2009 at 1:38 PM | PERMALINK

For starters, Sarah Palin really does look like an actress playing an airline stewardess in a porno movie in her usual get-ups. That's not a slam, it's just an accurate observation.

As to the rest, Palin seems to have a habit of beating the horse past death (I guess that's her "hunter's instinct"), as witness her bullshit about stimnulus money and lately about keeping Alaskans from getting too much money from rising oil prices. As to going after Letterman, you have to remember that the sad losers and wannabe-assassins, the ones who know there is no chance whatsoever in this or any other universe that they would ever be a guest on Dave's show, all hate Hollywood - they hate anyone who is successful and doing something they obviously love, since they have never done anything they loved in their lives and will never have the chance to do so. Most wingers are the kind of person you forget 30 seconds after you meet them, they're such losers.

So, for Sarah Bimbo, hating on Hollywood and hating on TeeVee people is "good politics" with her loser base.

Posted by: TCinLA on June 12, 2009 at 1:41 PM | PERMALINK

Two words: political whore.

Posted by: The Galloping Trollop on June 12, 2009 at 1:42 PM | PERMALINK

"Can somebody please make this woman go away. I feel like I'm the blackboard and she's the fingernails."

While they're at it. If someone would make Rush Limbaugh, Newt, Cheney(s), and all the various Political Priests and Ministers go away, we would have a good start.

Was it Actaeon who said: "Here at last is a worthy quarry for you, my faithful hounds ..."

Posted by: Kurt on June 12, 2009 at 1:43 PM | PERMALINK

Posted by: sonny ablaza on June 12, 2009 at 12:56 PM |

I see the punk ablaza has fled from Atrios's place, where he claimed to be a Vietnam vet, yet couldn't produce a valid MOS. A pity he's polluting this nice place with his foul presence.

Posted by: DJ on June 12, 2009 at 1:47 PM | PERMALINK

Letterman said her clothes were slutty, not that she was slutty. There is a BIG difference.

Posted by: DR on June 12, 2009 at 1:49 PM | PERMALINK

She's gotta keep herself in the news somehow.

Posted by: kc on June 12, 2009 at 1:49 PM | PERMALINK

Palin derangement syndrome. How many hours until the next Sarah Palin post Steve?

Posted by: grinning cat on June 12, 2009 at 1:50 PM | PERMALINK

Palin is the one who brought her kids into the campaign as props. Daughter is on tv promoting abstinence that she admits doesn't work. Many folks in public eye keep family privacy a priority. Not this lady. Trot 'em out when it's good pub, whine when they become the butt of jokes. Can't be both ways.

Posted by: Wes on June 12, 2009 at 1:54 PM | PERMALINK

She's truly pathological. Any sane person realizes Dave was talking about the 18 yo daughter that was already knocked up, not the 14 yo. But, in true Palin demonizing fashion she twists his words to make him seem like a pervert. Please. Let's see, "Who can I demonize today?" Dave was joking. He's a comedian. She's a governor falsely accusing him of lusting after 14 yo girls. Thank god :) she's not vice president.

Posted by: John Henry on June 12, 2009 at 1:59 PM | PERMALINK

Letterman should apologize NOW. This is not going away. Boycotts are coming if he doesn't end this NOW. He cannot win in this fight.He will soon have to grovel for forgivness. Apologize now.

But then Palin would have to offer her daughter to a real rapist, just to keep the story going.

Don't think she wouldn't.

Posted by: JM on June 12, 2009 at 2:03 PM | PERMALINK

If Palin wants to suggest that the popular talk-show host can't be trusted around teenagers, that's odd, but not especially important in the larger political context.

I'd go a bit stronger than 'odd' -- she's clearly calling him a pedophile.

It's probably just her dim-witted, adolescent idea of a 'zinger' rather than an actual belief, but it's pretty revealing nonetheless.

Even the resident trolls here today can't work up much of a defense. Sometimes bad character (and horrible parenting) becomes obvious to everyone, even if only some people can admit it.

Posted by: bh on June 12, 2009 at 2:19 PM | PERMALINK

Your quote omits what Palin said AFTER being asked if what she said was in bad taste - she said
Hey, maybe he couldn't be trusted because Willow's had enough of this type of comments and maybe Willow would want to react to him in a way that maybe would catch him off guard.

Which I thought was a little bizarre. She's offering a speculation that maybe her 14 year old daughter would do something to Letterman? Like what, slap him? Yell at him? Confront him? Or something weirder? Is she setting up Willow for some kind of public statement?

Isn't that kind of like goading someone into a fight. "C'mon Willow, you're not going to let him talk to you that way are you?"

I find it really bizarre she would do that, especially with her child. It's like "Let you and him fight."

Posted by: g on June 12, 2009 at 2:24 PM | PERMALINK

"Statesman", many a time used to describe politicians, is not a word I'd use for Palin. Ever.

And while we're discussing this woman, has anyone ever asked her why she didn't RSVP for Alaska's Memorial Day ceremony, then just showed up... in completely inappropriate attire: a mini skirt and open-toed shoes.
http://www.themudflats.net/2009/05/27/daily-wrap-up-showing-some-skin/

Posted by: Hannah on June 12, 2009 at 2:25 PM | PERMALINK

Palin is foolish to invent and escalate a feud with Letterman (remember McCain last fall). Letterman's jokes were about her makeup- "slutty",
Spitzer- difficult to keep away from young girls, and Alex Rodriguez- Palin's daughters- whichever one, were merely the setting for digs at Spitzer and Rodriguez (which Letterman does on a regular basis).

Posted by: Johnny Canuck on June 12, 2009 at 2:30 PM | PERMALINK

Letterman is in the wrong. You don't involve a public figure's teenage children. Completely tasteless.

Posted by: impartial on June 12, 2009 at 2:35 PM | PERMALINK

impartial - yeah, well, he apologized. She's the one who's keeping it in the news.

Posted by: g on June 12, 2009 at 2:40 PM | PERMALINK

You don't involve a public figure's teenage children.

As I said in the other thread, it's pretty tasteless to involve a public figures children at all, full stop.

However, I wonder if "teenage" in this case is meant to imply some equivalence to Letterman's mockery of Sarah Palin's use as a campaign prop of her daughter -- who is now a legal adult -- with Limbaugh's ridiculing Chelsea Clinton's adolescent awkwardness at a much younger age.

Posted by: Gregory on June 12, 2009 at 2:40 PM | PERMALINK

re Chelsea Clinton: That was equally reprehensible. Thought about including it as an example but didn't remember the exact phrasing. A public figure's children should be off limits period.

re the apology: I saw a clip of that; it was more defense of his behavior than apology. Letterman is in the wrong here.

Posted by: impartial on June 12, 2009 at 2:46 PM | PERMALINK

A public figure's children should be off limits period.

You and I agree.

Letterman is in the wrong here.

You, I and Letterman agree. He apologized; it's Palin keeping this incident in the spotlight, likely because she perceives a benefit in prolonging the controversy.

Posted by: Gregory on June 12, 2009 at 2:48 PM | PERMALINK

Palin has won. Her name is still in the news. Feigned outrage works in today's media environment. Palin understands the Jerry Springer media world better than Jerry Springer.

By the way, since Letterman is one of those New York/Hollywood elites that "real Americans" find offensive, how is a boycott supposed to affect him? One would suspect that the "real Americans" in the Republican base would be "boycotting" him already.

Posted by: Ron Byers on June 12, 2009 at 2:54 PM | PERMALINK


Impartial,

I tend to agree with you, 18 yr olds still are children. However this situation raises some interesting questions. I mean, this particular 18 yr old is a mother, and is treated as an adult not only in the eyes of the law but in the eyes of the public. And certainly her family feels that she is an adult capable of making adult decisions, otherwise they would probably have sought guardianship over their grandchild. Is this individual still a child and in need of shielding?

Or is the family of a politician always off-bounds then? Again, I can see an argument for that...but what of the politician who makes their children and family life a focal point of their public persona? (To be fair, every American politician does that...to the neverending befuddlement of this Canadian :). What do we do in this situation then? Is a family always only available to paint the politician in the best possible light? That any news relating to their family that isn't for the above mentioned purposes is strictly verboten?

Also, what happens when that adult child of the politician enters into the public fora in a manner that is separate from their parent's? Is being the adult child of a politician akin to diplomatic immunity?

I'm interested to hear your reply.

cheers!

Posted by: neilt on June 12, 2009 at 2:58 PM | PERMALINK

Which I thought was a little bizarre. She's offering a speculation that maybe her 14 year old daughter would do something to Letterman? Like what, slap him? Yell at him? Confront him? Or something weirder? Is she setting up Willow for some kind of public statement?

Maybe shoot at him out of a helicopter?

Posted by: gttim on June 12, 2009 at 2:59 PM | PERMALINK

Classic Palin, whose addiction to media attention would make a crack addict look dignified, purposefully misunderstands Letterman's joke and attempts to promote herself as standing up for young girls. This would be less laughable if she hadn't gone all out to exploit the 18 year old daughter Letterman was talking about in the last election and even afterwards with her faux abstinence tour... Bizarre, dishonest, and pathetic Palin really should have a future in the GOP.

Posted by: Cioran Sellars on June 12, 2009 at 3:02 PM | PERMALINK

Letterman didn't apologize for saying Palin is "slutty". That was the whole point of the "joke". He did not apologize.

He also made a joke about her daughter being impregnated by some guy during the seventh inning. Was it really too much trouble to bother to find out which of her children were at the game with her so he could make what passes for an "appropriate" misogynistic joke, you know, like calling her a dog, instead of this vile crap?
What a wanker.

Posted by: thebewilderness on June 12, 2009 at 3:09 PM | PERMALINK

You are right about Letterman not apologizing for referring to Sarah Palin's slutty flight attendant look. I take it you have never looked closely at Sarah Palin or considered her fashion choices. She looks to me like somebody who cultivates a slutty flight attendant look. Of course, there aren't many slutty flight attendants, but Ms. Palin imitates the few who are to a T. That is why the Larry Flynt porn movie about Sarah Palin was relatively successful. The porn actress who played her didn't have to stretch with her wardrobe choices.

Posted by: Ron Byers on June 12, 2009 at 3:16 PM | PERMALINK

Lefties are scared of a strong woman.

So that's what all the complaining about Sonia Sotomayor is all about --It's the leftists who are afraid of her!

Now I understand.

Posted by: alan on June 12, 2009 at 3:35 PM | PERMALINK

Ron Byers,
Are you seriously too stupid to figure out that half the population might not think that calling a woman a slut is a "joke"?
Seriously?

Posted by: thebewilderness on June 12, 2009 at 3:59 PM | PERMALINK

thebewilderness:
"Letterman didn't apologize for saying Palin is "slutty"."
That would be because he didn't say she was slutty rather that her makeup styling was.

"He also made a joke about her daughter being impregnated by some guy during the seventh inning."

"some guy" - was Alex Rodriguez third baseman of the New York Yankees (that is a professional baseball team), who was the real butt of the joke- he has been known to chase after women.

Posted by: Johnny Canuck on June 12, 2009 at 4:02 PM | PERMALINK

Maybe Letterman should try the typical retardican style of apology:

I'm sorry if you may have been offended.

Posted by: wbn on June 12, 2009 at 4:10 PM | PERMALINK

What Letterman should do is direct his apology to Rush Limbaugh.

That would fix it.

Posted by: alan on June 12, 2009 at 4:16 PM | PERMALINK

A-Palin: "Take it however you want to take it".
Not just Dave, I think ALL men should stay away from Willow and the rest of the family until we are certain that whatever is wrong with that family is not contagious.

Posted by: Chopin on June 12, 2009 at 4:26 PM | PERMALINK

thebewilderness, are you seriously too stupid to have actually listened to Letterman's joke. He never called her a slut. He said she cultivated a "slutty flight attendant look."

My only suggestion for your level of invincible ignorance is that you watch Conan instead of Letterman.

Posted by: Ron Byers on June 12, 2009 at 4:31 PM | PERMALINK

That is why the Larry Flynt porn movie about Sarah Palin was relatively successful. The porn actress who played her didn't have to stretch with her wardrobe choices.

What? That wasn't the real Sarah Palin? Or even Tina Fey?

Posted by: CJColucci on June 12, 2009 at 4:44 PM | PERMALINK


This piece of white trash will continue to put herself and her kids in the news as long as it suits her. Letterman has apologized. It's enough. Send that beyotch back to Alaska (and send her baby daddy back with her) so the rest of us can be done with her.

Posted by: DT on June 12, 2009 at 5:23 PM | PERMALINK


Former Republican political advisor Mike Murphy said on the NBC Nightly News that Palin "is snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory by overreacting".

Posted by: Joe Friday on June 12, 2009 at 7:23 PM | PERMALINK

You would know more about it than I.
My half of the population are the ones who get called slut and bitch on the teevee, and in this comment thread. So obviously we don't understand it the way a wise white male with his wise white male experience would. Especially a middle aged white male who gets paid for taking cheap shots at women on the teevee.
Criminy!

Posted by: thebewilderness on June 12, 2009 at 8:15 PM | PERMALINK

Interesting that Palin herself refers to the fictional sex act between Letterman and her 14 year old as statutory rape. That would infer that the act was consensual on the part of both parties.
If the 14 year old did not consent and the act was force on her, it would be plain old rape.

Sarah, you are so stupid you make my skin hurt.

Posted by: Marnie on June 12, 2009 at 8:30 PM | PERMALINK

Palin's first move after her election was to moon the capital city and become the first governor ever sworn in outside of Juneau. She has spurned village Alaska with her appoinments to critical fish and game boards, and rejected urgently needed energy assistance to people who spent last winter making the dreadful choice between buying food for their families and heating their homes in way sub-zero temperatures, and causing rural to urban migration that creates a whole additional load of problems. Her petty, pouty, prom queen act may be funny at times, but the end result of her governorship has been cold, mean harm to a large share of our residents and communities, and degradation of state government.

Posted by: ghillie on June 12, 2009 at 8:37 PM | PERMALINK

Letterman pretty much single-handedly destroyed Dan Quayle's career. Glad to see Palin looking for the same treatment.

Posted by: Disputo on June 13, 2009 at 1:59 AM | PERMALINK

Poor Sarah. She couldn't even arrange a shotgun wedding for her daughter. It was a shotgun engagement. She's an incompetent putz, even by the low standards of her own ridiculous, backwards world view.

Posted by: Aatos on June 13, 2009 at 11:48 AM | PERMALINK




 

 

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