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June 15, 2009
By: Hilzoy

Iran: Sunday

Laura Rozen:

"Iranian opposition presidential candidate Mir Hussein Moussavi is planning a march of his supporters at 4 p.m. Monday in Tehran, Iranian sources said. He apparently went to see the supreme leader Sunday to seek a permit for it, but one hasn't yet been obtained. If he is prevented from getting permission, he has said he plans to march to the mausoleum of Ayatollah Khomenei, an act that Iranians say the authorities of the Islamic Republic would be disinclined to prevent.

Iranian sources said former Iranian President Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani is in Qom, seeking to persuade clerics (the assembly of experts) not to certify the Iranian elections. (...)

"Over the past two evenings, the air in Tehran has been filled with loud cries of 'Allah-u Akbar' following a request to this end by Moussavi's supporters," a person in Tehran informed an Iran-oriented list Sunday. "Tonight, the chanting started at around 9 pm local time, and has been escalating since. People in all parts of town are reporting the same phenomenon in their neighbourhoods. Amidst the chanting, you can also hear loud bangs, which are either bullets or teargas being fired ..."

For the record, 4pm in Tehran is 7:30am EST.

There are a lot of reports of violence. Andrew Sullivan and Nico Pitney have been doing a wonderful job of covering this. Via Nico, here's a first-hand account from a journalist who was mistaken for a protester and detained.

Spencer Ackerman has a really good post on the Obama administration's thinking:

"As reports of political violence in Iran intensified after Friday's fiercely disputed election, the Obama administration insisted that it would not interfere with the struggle for power between regime-backed President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the thousands of demonstrators who contend the election was stolen. Administration officials, on and off the record, said that President Obama would offer support for human rights in Iran generally and would not back away from his diplomatic outreach to the longtime U.S. adversary, regardless of the ultimate outcome of the election.

The stance began to attract criticism on Sunday, with some politicians arguing that the U.S. needed to come out firmly on the side of protesters who have been victimized by regime-backed violence and had their communications with the outside world restricted. But the administration's position has the support of Iranian human rights groups, which fear the clerical regime will exploit any perception of U.S. interference to slander the opposition as American puppets — a caustic charge in a nation with a deep memory of U.S. interference in its politics. (...)

A senior Obama administration official who did not want to be identified or quoted explained that the president was deeply conscious of appearing not to favor any side in the election. Officials had ruled out calling for a recount or a revote out of a concern for undermining the Iranian opposition. The official said it was important to have a policy toward Iran that advanced the administration's desire for liberalization and human rights in Iran, not one that merely vented American outrage at Ahmadinejad. (...)

No administration official mentioned recognizing the legitimacy of Ahmadinejad's proclaimed victory at this point as a policy option under consideration (...) But in no case will the administration back away from its long-expressed desire to directly engage Iran diplomatically. (...) At the same time, the official said, the administration would not have endless patience for unreciprocated outreach."

Read the whole thing. Ackerman details some of the criticism Obama's approach is getting from people who would like to see us come down clearly on the side of the demonstrators, along with the view of Iranian human rights activists that this would be an enormous mistake. They know a lot more than I do, obviously, but for what it's worth, I completely agree. I can't imagine anything more counterproductive than doing anything to make it easier for Ahmedinejad to cast the opposition as American puppets, especially given our history in Iran.

May this end peacefully, and may the Iranian people get the government they chose.

Hilzoy 1:30 AM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (16)

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I think it is time to realize we have a very intelligent president now. Sometimes he just has to pick the choice that does the least damage. I wish the talking heads would quit second guessing and criticizing everything he does. We need to accept that he knows more than we do and support his decisions.

Posted by: Mari on June 15, 2009 at 1:52 AM | PERMALINK

Crazy stupid idea ... why not come out in support of Ahmadinejad and confuse everybody. Make him the center of distrust.

Posted by: Wacky Librul on June 15, 2009 at 3:49 AM | PERMALINK

All the people hyperventilating over the results of the Iran election need to read this.

Posted by: Disputo on June 15, 2009 at 6:16 AM | PERMALINK

Try not to think of how quick-draw McCain would have reacted.

Posted by: jhm on June 15, 2009 at 7:16 AM | PERMALINK

Considering our history with Iran and our current "relationship" with them, there is really nothing the admistration can do.

I also believe this is something the Iranian people need to do for themselves.

Posted by: Saint Zak on June 15, 2009 at 7:38 AM | PERMALINK

We need a President with balls who will threaten to nuke Iran unless they put Moussavi in power. We're all about Freedom.

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The list of the fraternety that supports the Neocon who wrote the article.
It reads like a who's who of people who have difficulty dealing with reality.

Posted by: John R on June 15, 2009 at 8:06 AM | PERMALINK

Hmmm, Mr Disputo, was Ken Ballen the brainiac who allowed Ollie North to be granted immunity before his testimony in the Iran-Contra investigation? Yeah, don't take his deposition, just give him immunity. So, now, we are to believe Mssrs Ballen and Daugherty, who work for a board which comprises that marvelous Financial Triage Expert, one Bill Frist and the intrepid John "Double Talk" McCain? Oh, yeah, Lee Hamilton and Robb provide "fair and balanced" cover, eh? Better polling, Disputo.

Posted by: berttheclock on June 15, 2009 at 8:51 AM | PERMALINK

IIRC, Ahmadinejad got elected in part because W did inject himself into the Iranian election right before the election and "endorsed" the reform candidate. Ahmadinejad, who was not predicted to win, picked up anti-american support and won. So, the clerics won, and W won because he got a new "enemy" to rail against.

Posted by: g on June 15, 2009 at 9:34 AM | PERMALINK

Careful about taking Sullivan's reporting too seriously. He's relying mainly on what a few people are saying in English-language Twitter messages. When someone says on Twitter that Mousavi is under house arrest, that doesn't mean that it's true, though it might be; much of the Twitter traffic appears to be rumors.

Posted by: Joe Buck on June 15, 2009 at 11:06 AM | PERMALINK

All of this is beginning to remind me of the various colored media-driven revolutions, such as those in Ukraine and Georgia. And look at how well they turned out ! Both are now shining examples of democracy in action. I think we have enough problems with what's left of our own so-called democracy (which appears to have developed a few serious additional flaws of its own in recent years), that it behooves us to keep out noses out of Iran's political culture, that is, of course, provided our masters in Tel Aviv decide to allow us to do so.

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