Same old boys, only with new toys! -Kevo

Maybe in the long run it will be healthy recognition: the cultural war that started in the early 90ies disclosed ca. 30% of the US populace as core racists. And they have a party.

It's always better to have bullet-proof numbers.

So republicans are ignorant racists. Tell me something I don't know.

The problem with Twitter is that it makes it too easy to say things impulsively, which is not a good thing in politics.

On the one hand, the GOP's rank-and-file have paid attention and taken the leaders' advice.

I'm just curious. Who actually reads these things? I can't imagine having politicians send me this daily gossip.

Nothing like an impulsive comment made into a permanent record. Learning how and when to use Twitter is going to take a while. The same with Facebook. Lots of fools posting pretty confidential stuff to a public bulletin board.

On the positive side, racists aren't the brightest of bulbs. I bet a lot of them are outed as racists by their inability to control themselves in 128 characters or less.

Race would never have been an issue if Obama had been a white male.

I think Democrats should always encourage Republicans to speak freely in an unguarded manner.

Just for the hell of it, I followed TP to Diane Black's website. She shares the values of all the "right" causes, of course, and no where on the website - at all - is a picture of a non-white face.

Not One. Do no blacks live in Black's district? If so, does she not serve them? She must live in a totally white world.

Too bad.

The problem for the Republican Party is that there's no coming back from this. They've become forever synonymous with "racist." Moderate voices will come forward? Its rapidly approaching the point where anyone who identifies as Republican will be viewed as a racist.

They latched on to extremists and toxic charlatans and now they've been devoured by them. Well they made their bed and now they have to sleep in its filthy sheets.

"All your racists are belong to us!"

This is wonderful! Twitter has given us a way to see inside some people's minds. If they are prone to racism, antisemitism, or just general stupidity and expose that on twitter, we KNOW they are not ready for prime time.

Hence we can have good government by the process of elimination if people who tweet all the time are generally sane and controlled, their performance in office might tend more towards the sane and controlled.

It's not a perfect filter but it could be one of many.

Racism, coupled with the far-right theocratic agenda, possibly has forever doomed the Republican Party. It's difficult to see how they can shed those two forces that Nixon (the Dixiecrats) and St. Ronnie so adamantly pursued.
What's really important is that the public is never allowed to forget about it. The sacrifices of the civil rights movement and the secularists can be honored only by always calling attention to these kinds of people---and what they are doing.

Give them enough rope and they will hang themselves. (If they are all white, this cannot be construed as a lynching.)

Anybody who didn't learn via e-mail that electronic communications are impulsive and permanent and basically the opposite of what you want in politics, is probably not going to get it with Twitter.

A former colleague once received an e-mail "joke" that was so hurtful and racist it made some of our secretaries cry. His secretary printed it out automatically like she did all of his other e-mail correspondence and left it on the printer so everyone else could read it. I thought my office was going to explode from the tension and after that, trafficking in sexist, racist or raunchy jokes of any kind (said joke managed to traverse all three categories) was made a firing offense.

The joke was forwarded by a lobbyist who later worked in the Bush administration . . . It's not like anything has changed, has it?

I wish you were right, Zak, and maybe you are. But I find people have awfully short memories, and generally make it clear to politicians what they want to hear. In a few years, Republicans will be hollering that it's time for change. That clarion call has always found receptive ears, even when things are going pretty well as they are.

I sympathize with you, though; how are these people not hated and publicly scorned?

Interesting, looks like every instant communication technology comes with the same initial challenge.

In each case people have to re-learn that a spontaneous blurb is not the same as a well formulated thought. Kind of was the same problem when the use of emails became widespread (and some people never graduated from the abysmal beginners level).

This must be awful for people with impaired impulse control, as our GOP friends so amply demonstrate.

Cockroaches meet sunlight...

Kurt: This is wonderful! Twitter has given us a way to see inside some people's minds. If they are prone to racism, antisemitism, or just general stupidity and expose that on twitter, we KNOW they are not ready for prime time.

Interesting thesis.
One of the reasons I was vociferously for BHO:

Cheney's 20% dead-enders would expose themselves for what they are. And so it is:
Day by day the sun shines a little sharper...
Day by day, the corners to hide in get a little brighter...

"were hurtful, wrong and have no place in civil discourse."

And yet, nevertheless, I made them anyway.

We all say stupid things from time to time, even Obama does too. And where would we be as a society without Joe Biden to remind us that one should always have brain on before engaing mouth? Yet one gets the impression a mindset is being revealed here that simply cannot be explained by foot-in-mouth diease.

I challenge Obama opponents to go at least a week without post =ing about the Administration.

And I challenge liberals to join the Republican Party for the sake of two-party democracy in this country. As the recent Gallup poll shows, parties based entirely on ideology do not work. This is not Europe.

That's what all respectable slave-state GOP boys learned at Uncle Pa's knee. That, and 'watch out for Uncle Pa's lapbone!'

I kind of like this prejudice stuff.

Disappointingly, voters looking for higher standards of interracial respect have little to choose from. From the GOP's recent Twitter and email messages to the anti-white words of Sonia Sotomayor, we've learned that racism knows no party lines.

Damn, I just saw something on TPM or something about a racist South Carolina GOP operative apologizes for Twitter comment about Obama and wondered if TPM was slow to the take.

Little did I know it was about ANOTHER racist South Carolina GOP operative apologizing for Twitter comment about Obama.

Not to mention, this "aspirin - white and it works" thing has been all the rage in right wing forwards for at least the past 6 months.

Do the racists have to be racist AND unoriginal?

The problem with Twitter is that it makes it too easy to say things impulsively, which is not a good thing in politics. -Colin

It is rather the beauty of Twitter that is makes it too easy for moron Republicans to say things impulsively, which is a great thing for politics. Let the sunshine in. On the whole, Twitter is as useless a nipples on a man, but if it proves to be the banana peel these ignoramuses keep slipping on, by all means, let them have at it.

Yeah it's time to pull out the cracker card for a change. Handle them snakes for Jesus, Abner! the Lord will hep ya stop humpin on your sister all the time.

I challenge Obama opponents to go at least a week without post =ing about the Administration.

And I challenge liberals to join the Republican Party for the sake of two-party democracy in this country.

LOL. What? Your expectation is that we should turn our back on every one of our principles and policy positions and join a party that's collapsing under the weight of its own incompetence because you're uncomfortable with the idea of said party having some accountability? And your idea of a fair trade is that you guys will shut your yaps for a week?

You're pathetic. And about 16 years old, from the sound of you.

It's not surprising to see you panic at the prospect of your guys reaping what you've sown. And nobody really thinks a true one-party system -- were it actually to come to be in anything but the minds of disgruntled conservatives -- is desirable. You losing, and losing big, and feeling sad about being out of power for a whopping five months, however, is not sufficient cause for us to start freaking out at the spectre of a one-party state...particularly when the not-particularly-loyal opposition is doing such a good job of making sure that nothing much gets done by the party in power.

You voted for these guys. Every time. Clean up your own mess in your party. We're too busy cleaning up the country you pooped all over.

mhr wrote: "Today's Democrats are the illegitimate heirs of a corrupt and evil system."

No, don't you remember? We traded you Southern White racists for blacks and coastal liberals back in the last century. You're the one who pushed for the deal, remember?

We were the heirs, but we sold you our inheritance and now it's yours, sucker.

GOP, puting the 19th into the 21st century.....

Disappointingly, voters looking for higher standards of interracial respect have little to choose from. From the GOP's recent Twitter and email messages to the anti-white words of Sonia Sotomayor, we've learned that racism knows no party lines.

No, Matthew, we've learned that you have no idea what racism is.

Kee-rist.

As the recent Gallup poll shows, parties based entirely on ideology do not work. -Sean Scallon

What should we base political parties on if not ideology?

Race? Religion? Region? Shoe Size?

You should be very careful about leaping to conclusions based on polling, especially an isolated poll. Otherwise, you risk sounding a little silly.

The problem with Twitter is that it makes it too easy to say things impulsively, which is not a good thing in politics.

Depends. Not good for many Republicans when we learn that their first impulses are racist, but good for everyone else to know what they really think. And the composite picture of presidents doesn't seem like a very impulsive thing, more something that was thought out and worked on over a period of time. Like the other Republican racist who made those "Obama dollars" with pictures of watermelon and fried chicken on them. I think the explanation there was that they just chose random food items. Uh-huh.

It's some pretty ugly stuff, but good that these creeps are actually exposing themselves for who they really are.

What should we base political parties on if not ideology?

The ability to win elections and hold power without actually being judged by voters on your ideas, policies or priorities, apparently.

And you're a lot nicer than I am. At least today. ;)

How very and sickly typical of Republicans, for this "lady", when caught, to complain only about it being found out. Ugh, the South is "rising again" in just the wrong way.

MRM, you're such a dope and equivalency/apology troll. For one thing, talking about cultural experiences isn't about "race" literally, and she didn't say whites were born inferior, just not exposed to her special experiences. Real racists talk bout monkey ancestors and send pictures of googly eyes, watermelons on the WH lawn, or shoot people.

BTW, it isn't just Obama as a set of eyes, it is those googly, round white eyes with black centers on black - the old Sambo/minstrel stereotype, the childish, scaredey-cat Negro being startled and with bulging eyes etc.

What to do? Well, for one thing: publicize, publicize, publicize!

Sorry MRQ, I skimmed and mistook you for the real thing! (But since he was caught by the Mod., using MRQ as a handle too, how do I know anyway?) And it's something the "real" one could have said, too ...

The trouble with the new media as far as the ideological conservatives is concerned is that sending messages out to the true-believers who actually believe that ideology also exposes their idiocy to mature, educated and thinking adults who try to ground their opinions on reality and documented outcomes.

Conservatives normally avoid this risk by speaking primarily to true-believers and, within those groups of true-believers, promulgating the myth that the adult, educated critics cannot be trusted and believed. This is classic brainwashing technique. Isolate the audience and use both ideology and social group pressured to impress the ideas on them. The new media does not allow this tactic for brainwashing to work. You can't effectively brainwash someone when they are open to critical views of your ideology and its results. That's the purpose of their attacks on the so-called "liberal" media, on intellectuals and universities, and (with the Discovery Institute) the attack on the scientific method and scientific thinking.

These items in the article are all cruel and hurtful, not funny. I wish people would think before sharing such "jokes".

US, the suspect thing is the people who think of such "jokes" to begin with, not their indiscretion in sending them out, and outside their circle of racist buddies.

MatthewRQuarreler on June 16, 2009 at 3:48 PM

I did write that everybody touts their particular experiences, and I cited the case of Oliver Wendell Holmes junior in response to Gwen Ifill's comment that singularly white male experiences never count as "white". The reason that I mentioned Justice Holmes as illustrating her point was that, at that time, African-Americans were prohibited from serving as officers in the military. Up until the Tuskegee Squadron, combat leadership was a "white males only" club.

It has, therefore, also been sexist to tout one's combat leadership experience, but there may soon be female combat veterans running for office -- fighter pilots and decorated ground troops, and so on.

The aspirin joke does no credit to whiney whites (I have heard lots of jokes like that, and it isn't the worst.) As someone else wrote, the US had affirmative action for white males for centuries. Now whenever some white doesn't get promoted some whites complain about affirmative action. I don't how how the Supreme Court will rule in the Ricci case, but I side with Judge Sotomayor on that one.

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