Must be a slow news day to mention this clown

He should go on Stewart and Colbert. They will help out his cause.

That's quite a team he's assembled. WTF is it with R-TX politicians?!

No Michelle Bachmann?

Who are the Mugwumps who elected these fools. How they could not be profoundly embarrassed to have cast a vote for these congressmen with less mental abilty than a turnup is beyond me.

dk you beat me to it. This seems ideal for Michelle.

I was looking for Steve King from Iowa.

Wow. Three out of four wingnut fellow travelers are Texas Republicans. Color me shocked!

Lousy conservatives! Conservatives want an immigration system where the foreigner applies for permission to enter the US and waits his turn until he is called for an interview and a physical examination to check for smallpox, TB, Aids etc. That was the way it was done in "the old days."
Liberals prefer the current system- immigrants come in whenever they feel like it, through tunnels they build under the border, in trucks, walking across the desert at risk of life and limb. Then they are free to wander around US cities with no worries that police will ask for papers. They are free to attend school, even be admitted to state universities with resident status, get health care, SSI etc. Anyone who objects to the wisdom of this "system" is called- guess what?- a racist.

When did the legislative branch of government become part of the entertainment industry?

I'd like to respond to the blathering of mhr but I'm certain that the troll police here would berate me for it.

What's wrong with presenting a birth certificate to run for president? Obama could have done that. He was born in Hawaii. The constitution says you have to be a natural-born citizen to be president, which even McCain was, despite being born in Panama. So at first blush it appears to me that the bill makes sense as a measure to preserve and protect the constitution. Nothing wrong with that. This has nothing to do with immigration policy. It's constitutional law. Things have always been fine without this law, but it's fine if it passes. I bet Obama would sign it too.

What's wrong with presenting a birth certificate to run for president? -Haik Bedrosian

There are natural born US citizens without birth certificates.

SASQ.

Haik - in the same way that there's nothing wrong with the question "when did you stop beating your wife?"

You say Obama could have done that. But of course, he has done so several times. This rumor has been debunked multiple times in multiple ways by multiple disinterested parties. It is boring as fuck to hear you guys bleat over the election that you lost, creating these whackadoo non-issues. Man up. Accept reality.

What's wrong with presenting a birth certificate to run for president?

It is neither a Constitutional nor even a legal requirement.

Obama could have done that.

And, in fact, did.

He was born in Hawaii.

Correct. Case closed.

The constitution says you have to be a natural-born citizen to be president,

Which, as you note in your preceding sentence, Obama is. End of story.

which even McCain was, despite being born in Panama.

He was not a citizen at the time of his birth, either by operation of statute law or by Constitutional birthright, but became one by virtue of a law with retroactive application passed after he was born. There is certainly plenty of room for debate over whether McCain is, in the Constitutional sense required for the Presidency, a "natural born citizen", but it is entirely academic, since the American people soundly rejected his bid for the Presidency, rendering his legal qualifications moot.

I am aware that Obama has make his birth certificate public. I just said he was born in Hawaii. "Whackadoo?"

At least 'doubtful' has attempted to explain what might be wrong with the law, however unconvincingly.

I am aware there are natural born citizens without birth certificates, such as those like McCain born abroad. They would have to produce an FS-240 or DS-1350.

What is the big deal? I can't imagine any remotely serious contender for the presidency not having one of these documents. I mean the bill is probably not the best use of time, but there's also no use in wasting time fighting it either.

Ah- 'cmdicely' I hadn't considered the date of McCain's birth vis-a-vis the date of the statute defining a natural born citizen. I wonder how McCain would prove that he was one. That's interesting.

Whatever. I'm just trying to look at the thing on its merits. Why are you all so hostile? I voted for Obama, of course. Jesus.

there's also no use in wasting time fighting it either.

Right. The best way to deal with pointless, adolescent distractions from the fringe right is to give them our time and attention. No use fighting crazy. Just go with it, man.

And Steve, what's wrong with wanting to be on Rachel Maddow? She's only the total bees knees and everybody knows it, including right wing fringies! She's the best thing on TV and radio.

Sigh. Haik, Posey doesn't actually want to be on Rachel Maddow. He thinks he's insulting her. Get it?

Right. The best way to deal with pointless, adolescent distractions from the fringe right is to give them our time and attention.

No shortstop, the house leadership probably won't bring it up anyway. But if somehow they do, I wouldn't go to the wall over it. Just hammer out an amendment that would let poor old John McCain to run again, or whatever and pass it. Who cares?

No use fighting crazy. Just go with it, man.

You see, calling something "crazy" is not an argument, in much the same way "um" is not an answer in Judge Judy's court. You have to do better.

"...Um is not an answer sir!"

Sigh. Haik, Posey doesn't actually want to be on Rachel Maddow. He thinks he's insulting her. Get it?

No. I didn't get that, and I find it hard to believe. Of course he wants to go on her show. A politician would have to be crazy not to.

I'm tired of this story already.

I'm tired of this story already.

Now you're starting to get it.

Moonwalk? Did this guy really use the term moonwalk? As in Michael Jackson and his moonwalk...made famous, oh I dunno, 25 freaking years ago?

My gods, are all conservatives permanently unhip or something? They are just stuck.

Now I know why my local PBS station re-runs those creepy Lawrence Welk shows from the 60s

That smug "Texas" accent ain't even American. I want to see some of that notarized Posey material that proves he was a live birth. And DNA that proves he isn't just trying to pass as a full-blooded racist.

Is he the illegitimate grandson of an alligator?

He should agree to a DNA test... WHAT IS HE AFRAID OF???

If politicians want to be on Daily Show and Colbert Report, why wouldn't they want to be on Maddow's?

The "illegitimate grandson of an alligator" thing is a red herring. Colbert suggested Posey might be the grandson of an alligator. Posey never denied that he is the grandson of an alligator. He did deny that he is the "illegitimate grandson of an alligator." He's trying to distract you, by waving his grandparents' marriage certificate, from the question of whether they were all mammals.

Also, Abraham Lincoln claimed he was born in a log cabin in Kentucky, but there are no living witnesses or notarized documents to prove it. Can't the House Judiciary Committee do something about clearing up his alleged presidency?

These Republicans are laughably inept, still carrying a most dubious 25% approval rating, and still so hypocritical demanding marital fidelity and anti-gay values-- while so unfaithful, and so prone to affairs, and then---gay as hell. Everyone I know just thinks they have gone beyond and Dems will rule for a long, long time

No Michelle Bachmann?
Posted by: dk on June 18, 2009 at 4:53 PM | PERMALINK

Her designation is R-Huranus.

Lousy conservatives! Conservatives want an immigration system where the foreigner applies for permission to enter the US and waits his turn until he is called for an interview and a physical examination to check for smallpox, TB, Aids etc. That was the way it was done in "the old days."
Liberals prefer the current system- immigrants come in whenever they feel like it, through tunnels they build under the border, in trucks, walking across the desert at risk of life and limb. Then they are free to wander around US cities with no worries that police will ask for papers. They are free to attend school, even be admitted to state universities with resident status, get health care, SSI etc. Anyone who objects to the wisdom of this "system" is called- guess what?- a racist.
Posted by: mhr on June 18, 2009 at 5:12 PM | PERMALINK

Geez...go figure!

mhr--you still ranting your imperial delusions and poor reality contact?

If politicians want to be on Daily Show and Colbert Report, why wouldn't they want to be on Maddow's?

There are a lot of politicians on the right who are scared stiff to go on any of these three shows. Posey's one of them. The crap about not wanting to "give her the ratings" was pure bluster.

I'm surprised my favorite insane Repub Congresswoman, Michelle Bachmann, hasn't signed on to this...

Is he the illegitimate grandson of an alligator?

He should agree to a DNA test... WHAT IS HE AFRAID OF??? -- David, @19:44

Actually, it's the other way 'round... He *asked* for a DNA test, but the SCOTUS, in a 5:4 decision, denied him the right, since he's already been convicted (in the court of public opinion). The righteous 5 said: "once a lizard, always a lizard, and you can't tell exactly *which* lizard. Gingrich is already paying too much in child support to risk being sued again"

Notice that three of them are from Texas and the fourth is from Orangutang County, CA - need one say more?????

Why hasn't Obama authorized the release of his original 1961 typewritten, long-form birth certificate? All I've ever seen is a 2007 computer-generated print-out if the alleged information. It's disingenuous to pretend that the matter is conclusively settled when the best evidence -- the contemporaneous certificate issued by the hospital -- has been withheld.

"time wounds all heels"??? Must be real fun sitting in those Reverse Mensa meetings.