June 30, 2009
THE LATEST MCCAIN DISAPPOINTMENT.... With the American Clean Energy and Security (ACES) Act on its way to the Senate, the global warming legislation's fate remains very much in doubt. Not only are there skeptical centrist Democrats to worry about, but the prospects of winning over Republican votes appear slim.
It's tempting to think John McCain would be willing to show some leadership on this. It was, after all, just a year ago, after he'd secured the Republican presidential nomination, that the Arizona senator acknowledged the climate crisis and said the United States "needs ... a cap-and-trade system." It was a position he reiterated throughout the year.
As Ryan Powers reports, however, McCain has since decided that a cap-and-trade system is a "far-left" agenda item, which he, like many far-right activists, now prefers to call a "cap-and-tax" system. Here's McCain yesterday on an Arizona talk-radio show:
"It's really terrible, because I believe that climate change is real, I believe it is something that we need to address, and I'm sure that a lot of Americans do, but to do so with a bill like this? ... What [the Obama administration is] doing is using cap-and-trade...to raise billions of dollars so they can spend money on Cash for Clunkers, you know, buying General Motors and Banks and the world's largest insurance company.... So it started on the wrong path and now it's just turned into, you know, it's laws and sausages at its worst in my view.
Ryan fact-checks McCain's criticism -- not surprisingly, McCain doesn't know what he's talking about -- but I'd just add that the Republican senator's bizarre and baseless opposition makes the larger effort that much more difficult.
Keep in mind, while reconciliation rules are in place for health care, center-right Democrats made it so that Republican obstructionism can kill climate-change legislation. To get to 60, the Democratic majority will need some support from those handful of Republicans who take science and global warming seriously.
McCain was supposed to be one of them. That now appears unlikely.
—Steve Benen 9:15 AM
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as if mccain matters, but there is a larger point. the GOP has no agenda for solving the problem so it can only say NO....they are losing the younger generation. my daughter is FOUR and she tells me to turn off lights and recycle because it is good for the earth's health. The current crop of teenagers are NOT anti-gay, they are NOT global warming deniers, they are NOT (by and large) haters of everything not popular in the 50s. The GOP and the MSM have failed to grasp this. they could still win an election cycle here and there, but their current agenda will be the death knell of the party.
So, i say keep turning to the loons and bigots and the dinosaurs of the old white southern GOP.
eric
Posted by: eric on June 30, 2009 at 9:21 AM | PERMALINK
Every day that passes I see more reasons to be grateful that Obama won the election
Posted by: Jamie on June 30, 2009 at 9:21 AM | PERMALINK
Are we surprised by this? If he agreed with Obama, it wouldn't all be about him anymore and we mustn't have that.
Posted by: wvng on June 30, 2009 at 9:22 AM | PERMALINK
I often comment on the disappointing behavior of so-and-so on the right by saying, e.g. "Rush Limbaugh is a dick", or "Sean Hannity is a dick", etc.
But it would be inaccurate to claim that John McCain is a dick. He isn't a dick; he's just a clueless idiot.
Posted by: David Bailey on June 30, 2009 at 9:22 AM | PERMALINK
you folks obviously haven't taken republican poetics...
why, st john doth spout poetry,
open verse stuff the republicans are the very best at...
the whine
the ressentiment
the insider hate and disgust
the parallel bizarro universe context
it's all there,
Bravo!
Bravissimo!
Posted by: neill on June 30, 2009 at 9:23 AM | PERMALINK
Way to forget once again, Johnny, that the bank and insurance company takeover happened on Bush's watch. Also, way to be a hypocrite. I am once again thankful to my very core that the McPain/Failin' ticket lost the election.
Posted by: Freddie on June 30, 2009 at 9:27 AM | PERMALINK
McCain is petty, he's a classic jerk who doesn't play well with others, he's a narcissist, he's bitter, he's opportunistic, he routinely spouts off on stuff without doing any homework, he's more of a crank ideologue than he gets credit for - primarily because the rest of his party increasingly looks like an insane asylum and he's not very smart. Other than that, a great American.
Posted by: brucds on June 30, 2009 at 9:29 AM | PERMALINK
i think the most appropriate contrast to McCain is Bob Dole. Dole was injured in combat and was for many a war "hero" (whatever that term really means). He lost to a democrat. And yet, even with a wife in the Senate he refrained (for the most part) from being openly partisan and rarely sought out news outlets to attack his former rivals.
For his many, many faults, Dole was the last adult of the national GOP.
eric
Posted by: eric on June 30, 2009 at 9:33 AM | PERMALINK
More bills with associated votes please. It's win-win for progressives. Provided, of course, they grow a pair and actually USE THEM during next year's campaign.
Posted by: Chopin on June 30, 2009 at 9:34 AM | PERMALINK
John McCain spent years as a POW. I find these cheap shots against him disgusting and unpatriotic.
Posted by: Al on June 30, 2009 at 9:40 AM | PERMALINK
@Al I'm sure that means you have never said a bad word against John Kerry then, right?
Posted by: Freddie on June 30, 2009 at 9:43 AM | PERMALINK
Al - since when is disagreeing with someone unpatriotic??????
Same old Republican bullshit.
Posted by: fred on June 30, 2009 at 9:50 AM | PERMALINK
wvng: If he agreed with Obama, it wouldn't all be about him anymore and we mustn't have that.
Bingo. McCain is all the things brucds says he is, but his overriding role is attention whore. He will literally say anything and reverse himself an unlimited number of times if it will get him another 15 minutes. And it always does, thanks to our worthless MSM.
And now he's raised and sent forth an attention-whore daughter whose grasp of the issues is possibly no worse than her father's, and whose uncontrolled temper and giant sense of entitlement look like they may successfully compete with his.
Posted by: shortstop on June 30, 2009 at 9:53 AM | PERMALINK
Ryan fact-checks McCain's criticism -- not surprisingly, McCain doesn't know what he's talking about
Indeed, McCain doesn't understand a lot of the subjects he yaks about and votes on. At one point in the campaign, McCain was questioned about C & T and said he didn't want a mandatory cap.
Selling C & T as a "market based" approach and selling against "command and control" schemes would have been a simple, effective, and obvious way to go. But the Dem leadership has never been accused of simple and effective.
Posted by: ed on June 30, 2009 at 9:54 AM | PERMALINK
For his many, many faults, Dole was the last adult of the national GOP.
Until 1994, when he joined in with Gingrich's sabotaging of ClintonCare. Dole could have stood up to his own party's nutcases, but he didn't. Screw him.
Posted by: low-tech cyclist on June 30, 2009 at 9:55 AM | PERMALINK
The courage and intellectual honesty of even those few GOP Senators who are theoretically not wingnuts is impressive, isn't it?
First, Grassley says he won't vote for health care that includes a public plan unless Senators even more conservative than he is do so as well.
Now McCain, who claimed to support cap-and-trade all through his campaign, takes a big crap on the idea.
And these are supposedly the non-lunatic fringe of the GOP. Really, is there any point in wasting time trying to deal with them?
Posted by: low-tech cyclist on June 30, 2009 at 10:00 AM | PERMALINK
Low Tech, with all due respect, i dont think ClintonCare was sabotaged by Dole or the GOP, it was unbelievably poorly managed by a group of very arrogant policy folks who tried to triangulate a solution so complex that it allowed for the attacks from the Right.
eric
Posted by: eric on June 30, 2009 at 10:01 AM | PERMALINK
"John McCain spent years as a POW. I find these cheap shots against him disgusting and unpatriotic."
Fine. Go away, then.
Posted by: msmolly on June 30, 2009 at 10:01 AM | PERMALINK
THE LATEST MCCAIN DISAPPOINTMENT...
Dude, the fact that a morally defective mental midget like McCain is even in the United States Senate is a continuing disappointment and a national embarrassment.
Posted by: Screamin' Demon on June 30, 2009 at 10:04 AM | PERMALINK
McCain was almost point blank asked during the campaign if he knew what a cap and trade policy was and he dodged the question. The addled fool simply doesn't know what he's talking about and it just being cantankerous and contrary for the sake of his own ego.
Posted by: doubtful on June 30, 2009 at 10:06 AM | PERMALINK
it was unbelievably poorly managed by a group of very arrogant policy folks who tried to triangulate a solution so complex that it allowed for the attacks from the Right.
Finally. Someone who gets it.
Posted by: Screamin' Demon on June 30, 2009 at 10:06 AM | PERMALINK
So it started on the wrong path and now it's just turned into, you know, it's laws and sausages at its worst in my view.
Sounds as if he's taking syntax lessons from his ex-running mate.
Posted by: Steve M. on June 30, 2009 at 10:06 AM | PERMALINK
You don't get McSomething for McNothing
The real disappointment is that the wizened people of Arizona are going to return this senile ass to the Senate with alacrity.
But the Grim McReaper comes with a heavy price tag:
The science is already in. Global warming is going to destroy the Southwest with horrific droughts. The first 2-3 year drought will be devastating on a desert population grown way too large and thirsty. It will get real ugly real fast. I guarantee it.
I am betting this will happen by 2015.
McCain will probably still be a senator.
Which is sort of nice, in a karmic sort of way.
Posted by: koreyel on June 30, 2009 at 10:08 AM | PERMALINK
Interesting that Cash for Clunkers program - Unless, you are trading in for a hybrid, such as the Prius or the Ford Hybrid Fusion, many new models will not qualify. For example, I checked the government rating site for switching from a '96 Mercury Mystique to a 2019 Subaru Forester. The new model was rated one gallon lower than the '96 Mistake. So, it will be either the Prius or the Fusion. Not bad choices, but, the field is very limited.
Posted by: berttheclock on June 30, 2009 at 10:20 AM | PERMALINK
"continuing disappointment and national embarrass ment"
May, I add Coburn, Inhoye, McConnell, Chambliss, Enzi, Little Lindsay, Sessions, Kyl and our so-called Dem Baucus to that list.
Posted by: berttheclock on June 30, 2009 at 10:29 AM | PERMALINK
Wet-start Johnny wasn't any good on climate change last year, either. Back in late 2007, he and his sleepover buddy Joe Lieberman introduced the Climate Security Act, which did most everything ACES does, as well as hike auto emissions and mileage (which was taken care of this year with the EPA announcement in May). The bill actually had bipartisan support in both houses, but it failed to overcome a vote for cloture in the Senate, 59-40. There were 99 senators present and voting that day. Who was missing? Wet-start Johnny, who claimed his campaign schedule was such he couldn't catch a plane to Washington in time (this from the guy who shut down his campaign on a moment's notice to take part in the "momentous effort" to deal with the Wall Street crash three months later).
The only thing Wet-start Johnny has ever been dependable about - going back to his days as an underclassman at Annapolis, if not before - is to look and see "what's in it for me????"
He has not the slightest idea what personal honor and integrity mean, other than spouting off enough to get the otherwise-unemployables of the Village Press Corpse on his side.
Posted by: TCinLA on June 30, 2009 at 10:29 AM | PERMALINK
Not to shill, but...berttheclock, not only is the Ford Fusion (hybrid and regular) great, but the Focus (35 mpg highway) and Escape hybrid might be options as well. If you're not in a rush to turn in a "clunker", the Fiesta coming next spring will be tremendous with a regular 4.0 liter engine.... Sorry, couldn't help myself.
Posted by: RR on June 30, 2009 at 10:36 AM | PERMALINK
It's becoming more clear to me that this mythical 'bipartisanship' is being used by the DINOs as political cover. This way they can throw up their hands in mock frustration and blame their inaction on Republicans.
Posted by: JWK on June 30, 2009 at 10:37 AM | PERMALINK
Steve Benen wrote: "... not surprisingly, McCain doesn't know what he's talking about ..."
Why make excuses for him? McCain is neither stupid nor ignorant. McCain is a deliberate, malicious liar.
McCain is just as much a bought-and-paid-for, lying tool of the fossil fuel corporations as Inhofe.
The only difference is that Inhofe's particular role is to preach phony-baloney denialist pseudoscience to the Ditto-Heads, while McCain's role is to claim that he "believes that climate change is real" while he obstructs any serious effort to reduce GHG emissions from fossil fuels and opposes and denigrates investment in renewable energy.
Posted by: SecularAnimist on June 30, 2009 at 10:45 AM | PERMALINK
It's tempting to think John McCain would be willing to show some leadership on this.
Classic Benen.
Posted by: inkadu on June 30, 2009 at 10:46 AM | PERMALINK
McCain was supposed to be one of them. That now appears unlikely.
Can't say I'm surprised. As I recall in the 2000 campaign, W said he was "concerned" about climate change and vowed to jump start technology in the private sector to help deal with it. We all know how that turned out.
Republicans are liars.
Posted by: about time on June 30, 2009 at 10:49 AM | PERMALINK
Politics and money always trump science. It shouldn't, but it does. McCain may not be that smart, but he knows what he has to do and say to stay in business.
Posted by: qwerty on June 30, 2009 at 11:00 AM | PERMALINK
Thanks, RR
Posted by: berttheclock on June 30, 2009 at 12:49 PM | PERMALINK
Even with all the selling out that went on to get the House version through, ACES passed by 7 votes.
I can't imagine it passing the Senate, but I wouldn't be surprised if, after counting the nays, Repubs realize it can't even get 51 -- and so, actually vote for cloture so that Obama gets handed a defeat on the floor vote.
Posted by: beep52 on June 30, 2009 at 1:17 PM | PERMALINK
If I recall correctly wasn't McCain only for cap and trade as long as it was voluntary?
Posted by: sparrow on June 30, 2009 at 2:09 PM | PERMALINK
"McCain was supposed to be one of them. That now appears unlikely."
I understand the Neverland ranch may be for sale soon.
Posted by: rbe1 on June 30, 2009 at 2:09 PM | PERMALINK
"McCain was supposed to be one of them. That now appears unlikely.
Can't say I'm surprised. As I recall in the 2000 campaign, W said he was "concerned" about climate change and vowed to jump start technology in the private sector to help deal with it. We all know how that turned out.
Republicans are liars"
Not directed at you about time, but:
and democrats are waiting for the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, and Santa Claus.
Posted by: rbe1 on June 30, 2009 at 2:12 PM | PERMALINK
Eek -- what a place for a typo. I meant the upcoming Ford Fiesta has a 1.6 liter Duratec engine with combined city-highway mileage estimated at nearly 40mpg. Egads. Done with the shilling. :-)
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