Family values, Beee-atch!

Against gay marriage because he knows what a REAL marriage is.

I know that if my husband publicly admitted that his soulmate is someone other than me, I'd get my attorney on the phone in a jiffy. There are some things you just don't say out of respect for your spouse.

That said, he still left the state for a week without finding someone to take his place, so that should get him ousted more quickly than the affair(s).

He said that during the encounters with other women he "let his guard down" with some physical contact but "didn't cross the sex line."

I have this image in my head of a scene from "Dumb and Dumber" - the one where Jeff Daniels swaps places with a masseuse, dons her itty-bitty smock, and starts giving her a vigorous rubdown.

I guess Sanford felt comfortable rejecting the stimulus package because his own package was getting stimulated just fine.

I know that if my husband publicly admitted that his soulmate is someone other than me, I'd get my attorney on the phone in a jiffy.

But he's trying to fall back in love with his wife. Trying really hard.

He was about to get busted for these other affairs, so this is his new line. Expect these revelations to go on for some time as other details emerge.

He never had sex with anyone but Maria.

Well, he did, but it wasn't good.

Okay, it was pretty good, but he never bought anyone other than Maria dinner before boinking her.

Well, maybe just the one guy.

Yeah, he said guy, but he's only had sex with one guy. The rest were all women.

Except for that one chick in the dress who turned out to have a...but her makeup was fabulous, so anyone could make that mistake. But she was definitely an adult.

Okay, just three months shy of her 18th birthday. Same diff.

Third base! No crossed lines there!

"You're not my soul-mate, but I'll try to fall back in love with you." I'll bet that made Jenny's heart go pitter-patter. Ugh, what an asshole!

Sanford should really learn to just STFU.

He's insulting not only his wife but airing private info that REALLY is not necessary.

The political consequences of his actions are clearly his absenteeism as Governor, using state funds to make booty calls and ONLY following his "d*ck" to make political and life decisions.

He needs to just fade into the background now.

All this panty sniffing shows how shallow you all are. Let's get back to discussing Morning Joe.

So is the "ultimate line" having penile-vaginal intercourse, or getting pegged?

This ultimate line business is completely juvenile. And does he really think he deserves some kind of reward for getting blow jobs from lots of women, but not schtupping them? Seriously?

People with his brand of Christianity never really seem to grow up about, ahem, "the birds and the bees."

Sanford, please, shut the fuck up. As much as I revel in seeing a Republican governor brought down, I am sickened by seeing your libido become the target of a Democratic cock hunt.

I'll bet he didn't inhale either.

I wonder if Sanford defines "not having sex" the same way Clinton did. Sanford never had sex with any other mistress other than Maria he just BJ's from them.

Jeez, he sounds like a love-struck fourteen year old. I'm guessing the results of a fundie upbringing: that doesn't really help your emotional maturity.

Sanford said Chapur is his soul mate but he's trying to fall back in love with his wife.

Good luck with that....

1. How many women did he cross how many lines with? Is that your final answer?

2. How many of those women had business before the state?

Jeez, he sounds like a love-struck fourteen year old.

You just don't understand. None of you understands the Greatness of This Love. Tragic, forbidden, it had a life of its own, a life larger than either of them. It's the first time anyone anywhere has felt exactly like this.

Sanford. Dude. Stop talking.

New south, same as the old south.

Hell no! We ain't forgettin'!

ICK! This is definitely too much information. Jenny will leave him, he will resign and SOON we can get back to the non-sexual nastiness. Please...

"South Carolinians need to know if Governor Sanford's reckless, irresponsible behavior constituted illegal behavior."
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I thought adultery in South Carolina was illegal or did all his romps fall outside their jurisdiction.

This guy is a real piece of work, how he thinks any of this is going to help him or his family is beyond me. How can any woman with a scrape of dignity let this jackass back into her life ?? I wonder if he prayed before of after he committed adultery, either way, I am sure that is when he cam up with his King David revelation.

According to Limbaugh the Junkie Closet-Case (tm), it's Obama's fault that Sanford couldn't keep it in his pants.

Politicians must be a different species of human. How else to explain that Sanford makes these public statements about his 'soul mate' and 'crossing the line with other women'.

Painfully obvious that trying to save his political career is more important to Sanford than saving his marriage and protecting his kids. If it weren't, he wouldn't have any need to go on about how his lover was his 'soul mate'. That's hard enough to take for the cheated on party in a marriage when spoken in private, uttering it in public makes it only more devastating.

If Sanford really wanted a 'zone of privacy' for his family he would stfu and, if necessary, let his political career go. It was after all him who messed up, so he should not make his wife and kids having to pay for it.

Governor, it's Larry Flint's office....again!

Hunstman - check
Sanford - check
Ensign - check
Palin - a check waiting to happen
Romney - lol

Rush should run, but then he'd be forced to come out of the closet.

A lot of self-righteousness here.

How many of the men posting in this thread have slept with women who aren't their wives?

Right, I forgot. Libs only teabag each other.

Falling in love with another woman is kind of hard when you're too busy deviating with another man.

I have only this to say:

"They also serve who only kneel and blow."

I think Churchill said that. Didn't he?

Wow, the nonstop train wreck that is Mark Sanford's sex life is some of the funniest stuff I've ever heard. Is HBO working on a series based on this?

"You're not my soul-mate, but I'll try to fall back in love with you." I'll bet that made Jenny's heart go pitter-patter.

Co-sign.

You just don't understand. None of you understands the Greatness of This Love. Tragic, forbidden, it had a life of its own, a life larger than either of them. It's the first time anyone anywhere has felt exactly like this.

Seriously. Sanford's starting to sound like a Claremont X-Men comic. Stop, already.

I think if my husband said that he would try to fall in love with me again, in private or public, I would tell him not to bother.

In Virginia, the true blue Democrat Chuck Robb apparently thought that "oral sex" with another woman (even if she was a former Miss Virginia) could be safely classified as "not sex" and I have read that Newt Gingrich made the same judgment (from a report of one of his exes also not one of his wives).

It's like there's some kind of underground manual that tells politicians how to get it on without having to admit that you are a two timing fornicator even if asked directly.

"This was a whole lot more than a simple affair, this was a love story," Sanford said. "A forbidden one, a tragic one, but a love story at the end of the day."

I don't understand this: is Sanford trying to defend himself, or pitch the movie rights to his side of the story?

I don't understand this: is Sanford trying to defend himself, or pitch the movie rights to his side of the story?

He's just channeling his inner teenager. I believe the song "Endless Love," a smash hit during his high-school years, was playing during the interview.

Makes you wonder what he was like when he was that age.

"According to Limbaugh the Junkie Closet-Case (tm), it's Obama's fault that Sanford couldn't keep it in his pants."

That apparently was before the latest admission, that his fidelity problems began back in 2001. Looks like it was Bush that led him astray.

Next up will be that 9/11 caused him to stray.

I don't understand this: is Sanford trying to defend himself, or pitch the movie rights to his side of the story? -- cmdicely, @18:18

My guess is -- neither. My guess is he's really in love with his Maria and wants to talk about her all the time, like any besotted 14yr old. And who's he gonna talk about Maria to? Jenny? Jenny, probably, doesn't have the time or the inclination (I know I wouldn't have), what with having daily powwows with her divorce lawyer. So he talks to the press.

"South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford said Tuesday that he 'crossed lines' with a handful of women other than his mistress"

I guess he didn't see Jesus the Crossing Guard waving him off.

PS I hope that, when Jenny takes him to the cleaners, she'll leave him just enough money for a one way ticket to Buenos Aires. Then, he'll be able to find out whether his Maria suffers from the same case of true love or not (apparently, she had been dating others, in between Sanford''s visits).

"...moving on to Jane Doe #12, with her I just touched her boob. I didn't even make it to second base.

But my shame forces me to admit that it was really, really good.

Ok, now if you'll please flip to page 130 in your handouts, "Liaisons Specifically Forbidden in Leviticus...."

You can survive infidelity. You can survive a few non-felonious derilections of you duty, but Pal, you can't survive looking ridiculous and pathetic in public. Sanford may not acknowledge it -- he may not even know it -- but he's toast.

Sanford seems to have forgotten Molly Ivins first rule of holes: When in one, quit digging.

For anyone interested in extra reading on this, I wrote a post on Sir Sanford and the Villainous Reality.

It's all about how Sanford's fantasyworld colluded to make him go public, and how this is typical of conservative delusional thinking. They're all heroes, if only in their dreams.

Male midlife crisis, obviously far worse than the worst menopause.

How many of the men posting in this thread have slept with women who aren't their wives?

I've slept with several women who aren't my wife, Mykey. But I did it before I got married. ;)

Stay tuned for Chapter 12, in which it is revealed that Maria Belen Chapur is actually a transsexual, and the sometime lover of Reverend Ted Haggard.

Who is now completely heterosexual, of course.

If only blog comments were votes, Sanford would be president.

How much more embarrassment can he heap upon his wife? He readily admits to being in love with Chapur, but trying to fall in love again with his wife. Few women would put up with this from their husbands, and neither should Jenny Sanford. He's made it crystal clearly for the world to see that Chapur is where his heart resides.

I'm having trouble keeping up with the sematics. Is Hiking in Appalachia (not the south end) the same as crossing lines? Pretty soon any phrase will be a metaphor for, well, ... you know.

Note to Myke K:
MYODB. That's what's wrong with you hypocrits anyway. Always sticking your noses into other folks' business and trying to tell them how to live all while doing the same thing, or worse. Liberals/progressives differ from the scum sector (conservatives) in that we don't care what you do regarding sex as long as you stay out of our business. We believe in live and let live, something the scum sector has not mastered.

majii - don't feed the trolls.

Can anyone recommend a good movie about amour fou? This political episode is bizarrely reminding me of frantic conversations with my friends in our 20s, as many were driving madly off of different emotional & romantic cliffs. It is frankly embarrassing to see a grown, married man so completely off the rails. He can't even pretend to be normal. Kind of funny in a college-age roommate, but increasingly pathetic later in life.

Some of this story keeps making me giggle -- a holier-than-thou Christian compares his multiple transgressions to King David's! -- but my heart aches for his poor wife. If my wife were to say that she had found her soul-mate, it just wasn't me, my insides would be torn out. No one deserves this kind of public humiliation.

I am an atheist...

But still it would be the greatest irony of all time if Sanford got hit by a lightning bolt.

TZAPPP!!!

a scandal that has derailed his once-promising political career.

I don't understand who comes up with this nonsense: mccain, ghouliani, gingrich, craig, vitter, reagan,...and on and on. How exactly does marital infidelity, hypocrisy, and being a cad derail a republican career. Looks more like a critical ingredient to me.
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This story is the same old, same old. Democrats would be wise to just let this drop. Last time I checked, Democrats were just as fond as Republicans when it comes to fooling around. If you create a climate where marital infidelity is a political circus, then it will be a circus for everyone.

Sanford's political career is toast. There's no need to dance over the cinders gleefully.

Shortstop kills me! LOL!

He was lying when he said he was telling the truth now. THAT is some twisted freaking logic right there. . .

And Mutton: I hope to God that you are a satire troll. Clenis dominated the 1990s. Most progressives would rather let adults have their privacy. But the repressives? Man a stiff wind gets Fox News on a non-stop sex frenzy.

My conclusions:
> Mark Sanford has not only fallen out of love with his wife, he despises her. Why else would he continuously wield emotional shivs in public - in venues where she is absolutely powerless to call him on it? As others have stated, his declaration that he finds Ms. Chapur to be his soul mate (though I thought that was the unspoken message of the Day 1 press conference) is a cruel and selfish a public act as I can imagine (I guess Rudy has him beat, but not by much). It is quite possible that I would not find much to like about Jenny Sanford, but her husband's cruelty has become gratuitous in my view. I hope she can find the strength to extricate herself from the morass her marriage appears to be and preserve a little dignity for herself.
> From this point forward, I will never read or hear the word "wanker" when Mark Sanford is not the first person who pops into my head. He is the gold standard.
> Sanford believes that the Harlequin Defense is best for him right now. I think he believes the public is on the side of "love." This is "different," this was for love! If he can push the narrative away from dereliction of duties public and private and cast himself as some tormented person entangled in the web of l'amor, perhaps he can resurrect his sorry ass sometime down the road. Too bad he forgot that "crossing the line" with non-soul mates and non-wife individuals does not fit well with the Harlequin Defense. It earns only "You, Sir, are a cad!" kind of scorn.
>I wonder if Maria is so blinded by love/lust that she is not deeply troubled by Sanford's casual and self-absorbed cruelty towards a woman with whom he has shared so many years, dreams, and four children. Perhaps she is enough of a free spirit that his other dalliances with "the line" do not undermine her trust in her soul mate. Or maybe she is really confident that the love/lust they share is the real thing - something to hold in the fading night's light. Ick.
I hope Sanford collects himself, abandons the Harlequin Defense, which is to say shuts the hell up. As far as I am concerned the people of SC can decide whether it is God's plan for them that Sanford remains their governor. I do not think Sanford will ever be a threat to hold national office (this is all that matters to me). He has proved himself to be too much a selfish buffoon.

This story is the same old, same old. Democrats would be wise to just let this drop. Last time I checked, Democrats were just as fond as Republicans when it comes to fooling around. If you create a climate where marital infidelity is a political circus, then it will be a circus for everyone.

Sanford's political career is toast. There's no need to dance over the cinders gleefully.

Shorter Mutton: Concern troll is concerned.

The difference is that Democrats don't go around on their moral high horse yapping about "traditional family values" while working to deny other people the marital rights they themselves enjoy.

Maybe, just maybe, the steady exposure of Republican hypocrisy will lead them to drop their self-righteousness, and then we can grow up a little as a nation.

Besides, with Sanford, it wasn't only the infidelity, it's the abandonment of his office for nearly a week.

If Sanford's political career is toast, that's every reason to dance on the cinders, thank you very much.

So Sanford's Argentine Momma is the love of his life, his soulmate.
And Sanford has cheated with others (He said he didn't go as far with them; probably only to the next town).
And he wants to reconcile with his wife.
The question I would like to hear the Press ask him is "Governor, now that your marriage is totally shot to hell, are you going to divorce?"

Has anyone noticed that said "soul mate" is staying in Argentina?

She's not at a Motel 6 near the capitol, hell, she's not even in the US! She has not rushed to his side.

Sanford is in "luv", girlfriend is just having a good time.

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