these people should be arrested for treason... right now...

So, he is hoping and pleading for Osama to attack us so we can... demand the government protect us from an attack by Osama attacking.

It always sounds so much clearer coming from John Cleese or Michael Palin.

Nah, not these people. Roger Ailes for sure, but Beck is just a lunatic. You put down the rabid Pit Bull, of course, but his owner is the one you send to jail.

We on the left are not pure either.

We have a pastor who preaches "God DAM the United States"

We do have a looney left. Most of the time they are ignored.

Unfortunately, it appears the right wing equivalent is called a 'moderate' Republican Senator.

Actually, I thought I heard Beck suggest that he had been thinking the same thing and that is why Osama Bin Laden will not do it. In other words, if these fruitcakes are right then we win because Osama will not attack because that would lead to us winning> It was sort of like Osama in the cave hoping for a Kerry victory in 2004--not.

I hope the guy who sleeps with my wife will rape my kids so I can send him to prison!

I bet this guy subscribes to you the old maxim that you have to destroy a village to save it.

As I've been saying for a while now, the only way to make people understand that givernment doesn't work, is if Osama bin Laden himself puts anthrax in a million little envelopes and mails them to every media outlet in America. Only then will people understand how inefficient the post office is. And then they'll finally be willing to scrap this universal healthcare crap.

....an attack which will force Americans to demand that their government protect them effectively, consistently and with as much violence as necessary."

Damn RINO. This is the moderate GOP position.

Real Republicans want a government that protects us ineffectively, erratically, and with far more violence than necessary.

Cf. McCain/Palin 2008 campaign.

America is very sick. I wonder if there is any hope of a recovery ?

And to Nucular Pundant:
The reason government doesn't work is that it's misspelled.

"Former CIA official Michael Scheuer has taken some provocative policy positions over the years, but I never thought he'd go this far."

You just realized now he is a raving loon ?

I believe that Capitol Hill should demand consequences.

"God DAM the United States"

Did not know Rev Wright was working so closely with our Corps of Engineers.

In 1941, this former spook would have lit bon fires on the hills leading to Pearl. And, the right wonders why in hell, so many of us do not trust the CIA.

Honestly, what do you expect from people who basically breathe conspiracy theories?

Adam Serwer is wrong. This only applies if you are a Republican or Conservative.

I have a conservative friend who still whines to me about how three or four years ago MoveOn.org compared Bush to Hitler, but he loves Glenn Beck and has no problems with Beck comparing Obama to Hitler. Beck's comparison is true, my friend says. MoveOn.org's was "unhinged Bush-Derangement-Syndrome".

It's not about any political principle. It's about tribalism. If you are in their tribe, they will defend any ridiculous statement or action you make. (You are in the conservative tribe until you fuck up to the point where it's obvious to a rock, then suddenly you are a liberal. See Bush, George W.)

Another example: my conservafriend likes Mark Sanford even more after the affair, apparently because it shows that Gov. Sanford is a good, but troubled, Christian who faces the same challenges of sin as us regular folks. Of course, this is never extended to politicians with -Ds after their names.

"Patriotic is wishing for a terrorist attack on the United States."

Of course, it would make everything so much simpler. Social conservatives define themselves exclusively through antagonism.

These wingnuts love America so much that they're willing to sacrifice as many Americans, on American soil, going about the daily business of being Americans, as it takes to oust the government that the Americans elected, to protect the Americans from themselves.

Damn, that's just SO patriotic.

He just wants the money, like the rest of them.

But, but, wait! isn't Osama already dead and rotting in a cave somewhere due to the relentless pursuit by our former Commander Guy?

What do you expect from the Pro-Apocalypse Party?

So apparently what American needs is a Reichstag fire so conservatives can take the power the voters have otherwise denied them. Interesting.

It's been made abundantly clear that the far right wants a coup. That the MSM doesn't bring this type of crap to "daylight" makes one pause to wonder. I agree with the poster above that America is really sick. It often reminds me a a poster drawn by Robert Crumb that dipicts the map of our country in a sickly greeny/yellowy color showing a nauseating face with a balloon caption saying:"Love Me Or Leave Me".

I also wonder if wealthy loonies like Beck have fallout shelters where they'll hide until the shooting stops. I wonder...

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neil wilson wins today's Trollie award for False Equivalence or Bad Analogy. For those of you who have watched Death to Smoochy, you'll be happy to note the award looks just like a...a....rocket ship!

It's simpler to understand if you realize that, to these nuts, we libruls are the REAL enemy, and American politics is the only battleground that counts.

So from their POV, the U.S. really would be better off if bin Laden blew up one of our cities, resulting in Republicans being on top once again, than if Obama were to have a successful and peaceful eight years as President.

And given those assumptions, Iran really IS all about us, so advocating senseless posturing that would likely justify harder crackdowns on the Iranian protesters is indeed the right thing to do, from their POV.

"So apparently what American needs is a Reichstag fire so conservatives can take the power the voters have otherwise denied them. Interesting."

Already happened, on 9-11-2001.

Luckily for us, incompetence ruled the day and we survived, albeit barely, 8 years of neoconservative PNAC governance.

As we await Double Talk to go on Beck's show and croon "Bomb, bomb, bomb Phoenix" - Just stay away from Sedona.

In related news, the only way you can protect your daughter's virtue is by raping her, and the only way you can make sure Secret Service is on their toes is by trying to assassinate the President.

It all makes just as much sense as this dillhole's "logic." The same logic that brought us the One Per Cent Solution, and which insisted the votes in Florida in 2000 should NOT be recounted, because it would only rile up the wrong people. Just let conservatives say and do whatever they want, and we'll all be just fine! Why can't us stupid liberals wrap our teeny brains around this constantly-proven factoid?

Steve Benen wrote: "I'd just add that there will almost certainly be no consequences for this."

Well, we've already seen the sort of consequences there are for this sort of thing.

The Project For A New American Century guys said the exact same thing about a "new Pearl Harbor" in the 1990s, and the consequence was that they took power in a stolen election and ruled the country for eight years.

And once in power, they made sure to be as deliberately negligent at anti-terrorism as necessary to ensure that they got their "new Pearl Harbor".

Parboiled dregs

As more intelligent television viewers boil off to the net...
the networks are left competing for a condensed soup of virulent nuts.

In short: TV in the new talk radio...

With no proof of any kind, in the wake of a horrid disaster in this country, the lil' bushies were able to turn this country into a fascist nightmare for the lot of us. And the people laid down and took it. Is it any wonder that the lil' bushies would now idolize OBL, longing for him to rescue them from Democracy?

If patriotism is to be defined as wishing for the occurrence of unimaginable, physical horrors upon certain segments of the American populace, so long as they (the horrors) might serve a specific political agenda, then might I not be deemed a patriot in the eyes of the Right---by wishing for the total, unrestricted, malicious destruction of the Right and all its babble-speaking minions?

I'm certain that Beck is incapable of imagining his own destruction as I imagine it to be (what I have in mind makes waterboarding look good), and it serves a specific political purpose, by submitting to the Right that they still have an opportunity to step back from the brink of their own eternal demise....

I sometimes wish for a terrorist attack on the Fox News studios.

This is yet another piece of evidence that for some on the right authoritarian policy is an end in itself, not a means to the end of national security. Think about how ass-backwards this is - rather than advocating authoritarian policy to protect us from terrorist attack, he's advocating for a terrorist attack to protect our national security policy! Sick. Just sick.

Don't be so hard on Glen Beck! I happen to like him. So much that I wish he would come visit me. I have a rubber suit and a padded room waiting for him.

Did not realize Scheuer was this nutty -- I read his book Imperial Hubris a coupla years ago and thought it was pretty good.

As a non-US citizen, every time I read these sorts of articles, I'm asking myself whether this is just your run-of-the-mill neoconservative host nodding along or whether their millions of viewers/listeners are nodding along as well?

Cause are we talking about one lone crackpot inviting another or a genuine political view when between Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Savage and O'Reilly we're talking about what, tens of millions of fans?

There you have it, the New Republican Platform: Hope America fails and pray for another terrorist attack.

Is it possible that Obama-Derangement-Syndrome has rendered them all unable to hear the words they are saying?

I'm thinking the only hope is Universal Gov't run Health Care. Then these fools will hopefully protest by never seeing a doctor again.

I'd just add that there will almost certainly be no consequences for this.

Is the reason for this that people already assume the worst of conservatives and Fox in general, and of Beck in particular? It's like the way the DC suburbs treat news of murder in Anacostia.

It's an example of what Moynihan called "Defining Deviancy Down." Or, to paraphrase the subtitle of that work, "How We’ve Become Accustomed to Alarming Levels of Stupidity and Destructive Behavior."

If you really want to understand the hypocrisy at work here, just imagine if, say, Joseph Wilson had said this on the Rachel Maddow show, and she nodded along.

It's been made abundantly clear that the far right wants a coup.

Not to mention the lovely little purge that will follow it. Don't forget, to these guys, Pinochet is a hero.

Over the years since Viet Nam we have destroyed a lot of villages to save those villages, but this is the first time that I recall the village destruction advocates recommending the destruction of our own village to save our village.
Comes of the rewriting of history, I suppose.

What is he, Vincent Vega? "It'd be worth them doing it just so we could catch them doing it."

Oh, and this asshole isn't fooling anyone either:

We on the left are not pure either.

We have a pastor who preaches "God DAM the United States"

We do have a looney left. Most of the time they are ignored.

Yeah, right, "we" on the left.

Okay, in fairness to Scheuer I know he was canned from running the Bin Laden unit some time before 9/11. Nonetheless, I just have to say...

NO WONDER F*&%ING 9/11 HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!

It's been made abundantly clear that the far right wants a coup.

1970's: White House Plumbers (Watergate + much more), Halloween Massacre
1980's: October Surprise, Iran-Contra
1990's: All that Clinton-hating nonsense
2000's: The whole f'ing Bush administration

Just for a start. Anyone who doesn't see the deeply anti-democratic trend is willfully blind. There has not been a Republican administration since Eisenhower without a MAJOR abuse of power scandal.

Now, Scheuer is just a lone drunk who got deep-sixed from the CIA for general insanity. But the last maroon to make this "let's hope for a nuke" argument was the goddamn ambassador to the UN for a while.

Poor Michael Scheuer. I don't think he's really advocating for a bin Laudin attack on the US. I just think he believes we've become so complacent that the only thing that WOULD shake us up is another attack. But he made that point rather flamboyantly and it's come back to haunt. He forgot that we live in a time when Right Wing loons like John Bolton and Bill Kristol and Michael Ledeen are urging all the time that we "Hurry Please" (as Ledeen would say) and bomb everyone who disagrees with us. So, when someone seems to suggest it would be a good thing if we were attacked again he tends to get taken literally and seriously, though I'm sure that is not what he meant.

kevmo:

It always sounds so much clearer coming from John Cleese or Michael Palin.

ditto

qwerty:

I sometimes wish for a terrorist attack on the Fox News studios.

Just sometimes?

Slaney Black:

in fairness to Scheuer I know he was canned from running the Bin Laden unit some time before 9/11.

Interesting. So what does he want now, to show that since HE wasn't in charge that we deserve to be nuked? Talk about hubris and bizarrity.

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