July 2, 2009
AN AMA CHANGE OF HEART? NOT REALLY.... A few weeks ago, the American Medical Association said it's open to exploring reform options, just so long a public option is not part of the larger effort. This didn't come as a surprise -- the AMA has "fought almost every major effort at health care reform of the past 70 years."
It's why it raised a few eyebrows yesterday when the incoming president of the AMA, in an interview with CNN, seemed to be staking out a new position. CNN ran an item on the segment with a headline that read, "AMA president: group open to government-funded healthcare."
Dr. J. James Rohack told CNN that the AMA supports an "American model" that includes both "a private system and a public system, working together." [...]
Rohack, who recently became AMA president, suggested Wednesday that the Federal Employee Health Benefit Program available to Congress members and other federal employees could be expanded as a public option. That would avoid having to create a new program from scratch, he said.
"If it's good enough for Congress, why shouldn't it be good enough for individuals who don't have health insurance provided by their employers?" Rohack said.
The AMA president went on to express support for universal coverage and new efficiency measures such as electronic record-keeping. Rohack called 2009 "the year we need to have affordable health insurance coverage for all Americans."
But it was that reference to a "public system" that stood out. Is the AMA shifting its position?
Not really. Brian Beutler explained that Rohack is actually endorsing "a system of managed competition that provides members of Congress and other federal employees a choice of heavily regulated private insurance plans. In the FEHBP, the government is not the insurance provider as it would be in the case of a public option -- and that's a substantial difference."
Advocates of real reform are going to need plenty of allies. Don't expect the AMA to be one of them.
—Steve Benen 8:30 AM
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Posted by: markg8 on July 2, 2009 at 8:45 AM | PERMALINK
Just to point out that the AMA represents about 19% of MDs. It represents all docs much the same way the Federalis's Society represents all lawyers. It just has a catchier name. It's unlikely that either right-leaning group is going to sign-on to any Democratic initiative.
Posted by: J Bean on July 2, 2009 at 9:08 AM | PERMALINK
Anyone surprised that our paid for media never presents the information contained in J Bean's comment above? It's also sad to me that we are among a small group of folks who are able and interested in watching ALL OF THE TOWN HALL meetings that President Obama is providing...and ACTUALLY LISTENING TO ALL HE SAYS...too many people flip on their favorite pundits to tell them what he said/meant and then decide where they stand...the DUMBING DOWN OF THE PUBLIC is going very well...MORE MICHAEL JACKSON PLEASE!!!!
Posted by: Dancer on July 2, 2009 at 9:17 AM | PERMALINK
Dr. J. James Rohack needs to be uninsured for a year. Then let's talk to that schmuck and others of his ilk about a Public Option.
That Chuck Grassley guy needs the same. These people are not human.
Come on Chuck. What gives? Ever had an upper respiratory with no chance of seing a doctor because of money? Eh? You are inhuman. Nausating...
Posted by: stevio on July 2, 2009 at 9:34 AM | PERMALINK
Dr Rohack is a very busy man. He, recently, had the time to write a letter to the editor of the Oregonian complaining about an article which had been critical of the AMA's history of attempting to link universal health care with communism and socialism and painting any proponents for such with very tarred black and red brushes.
Posted by: berttheclock on July 2, 2009 at 9:43 AM | PERMALINK
Well, regardless of the AMA's credibility, would it be a bad thing if everyone had the same health care/insurance as Congress? I hear a lot of people demanding that in response to a lot of Senators and congressmen, but I guess you're saying that it wouldn't be enough for most people.
And before anyone jumps on me, I want a real public option to keep the insurance industry honest, but I'm just wondering if the model that congress uses could actually work for everyone--if its a heavily regulated system that doesn't allow insurers to screw people over like they do so often now.
Posted by: Allan Snyder on July 2, 2009 at 10:15 AM | PERMALINK
Allan raises a good point--we've been hearing for years about how good the Federal plan is. Is this only because it has so many members that the actuarial numbers make it so?
What I haven't seen discussed is whether there will be any regional rating involved in these bills. In other words will we still be stuck with the same horrible arrangement where a small group pays more than a large group because the risk is supposedly spread over a smaller number of payees. This makes little sense in a universal plan and would be one reason why a public option would be vastly more efficient than what we have now.
Posted by: carwinrpc on July 2, 2009 at 11:37 AM | PERMALINK
So there is no confusion, the AMA is committed to health reform this year that provides all Americans with affordable, high-quality health coverage. Over the last few years we have invested more than $15 million in our Voice for the Uninsured campaign to call attention to the uninsured crisis and lay the groundwork for health reform that gets all Americans covered.
The term “public plan” has so many different meanings that it confuses more than informs the debate. As the nation’s largest physician organization, we have made it perfectly clear that we welcome and will thoughtfully consider all proposals consistent with the principles of pluralism, freedom of choice, freedom of practice, and universal access for patients.
In President Obama's recent address to the AMA he said he would listen to and work with physicians to pursue our shared goal of meaningful health reform. The AMA is actively engaged in working with Congress and the administration to achieve health reform that best meets the needs of patients and physicians.
-American Medical Association
Posted by: American Medical Association on July 2, 2009 at 1:03 PM | PERMALINK
The average AMA member is an older, male, surgical specialist from the south. Not surprisingly, the AMA reflects that demographic without being an overtly political organization.
It's also worth noting that the AMA does not control medical education, medical licensing, medical practices of any sort or access to medical visas for immigration.
Posted by: J Bean on July 2, 2009 at 2:10 PM | PERMALINK
AMERICAS NATIONAL HEALTHCARE EMERGENCY!
Its official. America and the World are now in a GLOBAL PANDEMIC. A World EPIDEMIC with potential catastrophic consequences for ALL of the American people. The first PANDEMIC in 41 years. And WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES will have to face this PANDEMIC with the 37th worst quality of healthcare in the developed World.
STAND READY AMERICA TO SEIZE CONTROL OF YOUR NATIONAL HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
We spend over twice as much of our GDP on healthcare as any other country in the World. And Individual American spend about ten times as much out of pocket on healthcare as any other people in the World. All because of GREED! And the PRIVATE FOR PROFIT healthcare system in America.
And while all this is going on, some members of congress seem mostly concern about how to protect the corporate PROFITS! of our GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT NATIONAL DISGRACE. A PRIVATE FOR PROFIT DISGRACE that is in fact, totally valueless to the public health. And a detriment to national security, public safety, and the public health.
Progressive democrats the Tri-Caucus and others should stand firm in their demand for a robust public option for all Americans, with all of the minimum requirements progressive democrats demanded. If congress can not pass a robust public option with at least 51 votes and all robust minimum requirements, congress should immediately move to scrap healthcare reform and request that President Obama declare a state of NATIONAL HEALTHCARE EMERGENCY! Seizing and replacing all PRIVATE FOR PROFIT health insurance plans with the immediate implementation of National Healthcare for all Americans under the provisions of HR676 (A Single-payer National Healthcare Plan For All).
Coverage can begin immediately through our current medicare system. With immediate expansion through recruitment of displaced workers from the canceled private sector insurance industry. Funding can also begin immediately by substitution of payroll deductions for private insurance plans with payroll deductions for the national healthcare plan. This is what the vast majority of the American people want. And this is what all objective experts unanimously agree would be the best, and most cost effective for the American people and our economy.
In Mexico on average people who received medical care for A-H1N1 (Swine Flu) with in 3 days survived. People who did not receive medical care until 7 days or more died. This has been the same results in the US. But 50 million Americans dont even have any healthcare coverage. And at least 200 million of you with insurance could not get in to see your private insurance plans doctors in 2 or 3 days, even if your life depended on it. WHICH IT DOES!
If President Obama has to declare a NATIONAL STATE OF EMERGENCY to rescue the American people from our healthcare crisis, he will need all the sustained support you can give him. STICK WITH HIM! Hes doing a brilliant job.
THIS IS THE BIG ONE!
THE BATTLE OF GOOD Vs EVIL!
Join the fight.
Contact congress and your representatives NOW! AND SPREAD THE WORD!
God Bless You
Jacksmith WORKING CLASS
Posted by: jacksmith on July 2, 2009 at 3:28 PM | PERMALINK
I'm not so sure this is a bad option. The key to being able to negotiate with insurance companies is to have a BIG, BIIIGGG pool of "patients" that the insurers want access to.
No one has a bigger pool than the federal government, and as a consequence, they get the best deal by far from the insurers.
If anyone could buy into the FEHBP, that pool would get even larger, giving the government even more clout.
Imagine, if you will, that every self-employed person in the country, every individual with no employer insurance, and every business in the country could buy into that plan. And that every insurer wanting access to those patients would have to agree, no denial for "pre-existing conditions."
I can see a future not to far away where everyone is in that plan, and the federal government is indeed negotiating with the insurers and Big Pharma. Kick an insurer out, and they'd be done.
If this is what it takes, I say go for it. I would sign up for sure.
Posted by: Cal Gal on July 2, 2009 at 4:05 PM | PERMALINK
Just for grins, I compared what it would cost for similar plans from HMO if I paid as an individual v. if I paid the TOTAL premium (employer + employee) under the FEHBP.
The private plan is a $25 copay plan, the Fed plan (Standard, i.e. the lowest cost one) is a $30 copay plan. You pay that every time you go to the doctor.
Each charges $10 per lab visit.
Prescription drugs, 30 day supply: Feds: $15 for generic and $35 for brand name. Individual plan: $10 for generic and $35 for brand name. (As a transplant recipient, who cannot get private health care insurance, the full price for just one of my drugs is $1,200 per month.)
Emergency room visits: $100 for both plans..
Hospitalization: $500 per VISIT feds, $200 per DAY individual.
Out of pocket maximum (does not include prescription drugs) after which there is no copay at all: Fed plan - $2,000; individual plan - $2,500.
So they are not the same, but they are close.
Total monthly premium under the Fed plan: $183.58
(If you're a fed employee, the govt pays $137.69 and you pay $45.89).
Total monthly premium under the individual plan, for a 40 year old woman: $358. And this rate increases as you age. No mention of age under the FEHBP.
So I think you see right there the bargaining power of the federal government.
Posted by: Cal Gal on July 2, 2009 at 4:56 PM | PERMALINK
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Posted by: Fhdehwai on July 14, 2009 at 4:35 AM | PERMALINK