Unless I'm reading Jonathan Cohn's article wrong, this is how statistics lie. The total cost of the program would be between one and 1.3 trillion dollars over 10 years. But the relevant committees and Obama have promised to keep the measure "budget neutral", and therefore the deficit will not go up a dime. It sounds like it's free, unless what it really means is that a deficit has already been projected, partly in anticipation of a health care reform bill, and this bill is perfectly in line with that projection. In other words, "the deficit won't go up" means "it won't go up any more than we said it would." So, am I reading that right?

97 percent? What about the other 3 percent?

Danp,

If you can track it down, Obama indicated how he would pay for the additional cost in his speech to the AMA.

He's going to tax your insurance! That's how he's paying for it. So much for not raiseing my taxes Obama. I wouldn't have spent a year bashing Hillary if I knew Obama was a liar.

Rick - Are you one of these people who gets a hundred thousand dollars worth of health insurance from your employer. If not, take a breath.

CJ - I couldn't find the speech itself, but I found some articles about it. Thanks. He talked about things like the CER and on-line medical records. But is it his intent to offset the whole trillion?

Hey Danp, FU! What I have for insurance has nothing to do with Obama being a liar!

So, --if I'm unemployed and have no money at, how does it 'help' me?

Seems to me the whole "tax company health insurance" thing is pretty simple: if it is in the final bill health reform is dead for now.

Any such tax would be extremely unpopular with the people who vote in mid-term elections so no such tax will pass so any plan including it is dead.

This leaves me with two options for explaining why some people seem to support it. Either they want to sabotage health insurance reform or they are fools.

Ease up Rick the Dick. Only and the 28% that is in some way beholden to insurance/big-pharma or just an incompassionate asshole has a problem with real healthcare reform that covers everyone.

Rick - I don't find any quotes that suggests Obama favors taxing anything but executive level policies, which, assuming the recipients get over $250K/yr, would not violate any campaign promises. I see right wing media insisting that he will, and concern troll media suggesting that "there is speculation...", but nothing to justify hyperventilation. Feel free to share if you found something.

We are spending $2 trillion (and rising) PER YEAR on healthcare - so $1 trillion over 10 years should not hurt, especially since the upfront spending will bend the curve DOWN from $2 trillion per year to much much less.

Here's how Obama laid out how he wants to pay for it:

300 bring tax deductions for rich to reagan era
177 medicare part D inefficiencies
25 medicare reimbursements focus on no readmission
30 generic drugs
109 medicare match payments to economy
106 cut current spending on uninsured
75 efficient drug purchasing

among other things like health IT, it comes to $950 billion.

So what's the big deal, people???

Alan, as presently envisioned, if you're below a certain income - & unemployment would definitely fall below that - there will be subsidies helping you to pay for your insurance. Then when you got a job, you would pay all or some of the insurance costs, depending on how much money the new job got you, or switch to your employer's coverage. (For those of you who are upset about the government paying any of these costs - remember, right now, you're paying for the government to pay for this care in the emergency room - the absolutely most expensive place to get your healthcare.)

Too complex. All people want is a system in which the out of pocket amount creates NO anxiety.

The correct answer is Single Payer. Everybody pitches in (like now except the $$$ will be deflected to Medicare and away from insurance companies).

Use the insurance company's high rise buildings to house the homeless.

Wow, that's gotta be the most unparseable title for a blog post I've read all week. I had to read the first paragraph to find out there wasn't a bill (or a person named Bill) who was helped by a real or metaphorical heart of some sort supplied by the White House. I was trying to think of a clearer way of phrasing it, but realized that as long as you have "HELP BILL" in there, you'll have at least two different possible interpretations of pretty much any title.

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