Free REIN, not free reign. Sheesh.

Since we're being pedantic:

slamming on the BRAKES,
not slamming on the breaks

No single payer? No public option? No reform till 2013? This isn't health care reform, this could be worse that Bush's Medicare reform.

Wall St gets trillions in a couple of months, laid off workers lose their homes and suffer a jobless recovery if/when it comes. The Dems will be nailed in 2010 and 2012 with the Blue Dogs getting it the worst. Talk about ironic self destruction.

Very short sighted.

"Free REIN, not free reign. Sheesh."

Give it up, it has become part of the idiom. Just try to be, you know, nonplussed about it.

I've been thinking about the House plan making new private health care insurance policies illegal and have begun to think that it is unconstitutional.

Don't think of "Roe v Wade" as having anything but a cursory attachment to abortion, but rather think of it as a proven endorsement of health care privacy from the intrusion of the government into your health care decisions.

Yes, put a rein on that reign.

However, how ill considerate many of you are for wanting single pay or even public option. If these are implemented, who will fill the coffers of Baucus and his ilk? They might even have to find real work in order to survive. Have you no "emphathy"?

Now, back to my pedantic rage against "exact same" and those Americans who pronounce herbs as though it is "Urbs"

Neo, are referring to the quickly-debunked (and, obviously, facially ridiculous-from-the-start) idea that the proposal limits health care providers and you can never change? Because that was from the definition section of the document, referring to the definition of "grandfathered plans," that is, not letting people make new plans and fit the definition of "grandfathered."

Pretty. Basic. Stuff.

Hey, Berttheclock: I betcha you don't the way 'murricans pronounce 'valet', either. Rhyming it with 'ballet' and 'alley'.

Me too. . .

DAY, since everyone is being pedantic, I think you mean "allay", not alley. Alley rhymes with valley.

Hurrah, a pedant's thread! Let's beat up some more on DAY:
(1) you apparently left out a 'like' after 'don't';
(2) your preferred pronunciation is a recent and most unfortunate innovation. It's truly ghastly to listen to someone pronounce 'pasta' with a very short 'a', just to show that it's not Italian. Ugh.

Bemusedly amused

Give it up, it has become part of the idiom.

Yep it is beyond the pail.

Obama is rightly defending metacompetition - the idea that different sectors or realms should compete against each other too, not just private companies against other private companies etc.

I'm with Glen. Need to change people's lives right now to inoculate those who vote in favor from swing districts.

Beyond the pail. Too funny.

Pedants unite! You have nothing to lose but your reigns!

And bert? Sorry, but it is "urbs". And the Massachusetts town in which the state university is located is "AMM-urst".
Quoting Lou Gosset Jr. in "Roots": You in 'murrica now, boy!

Speaking of pedantic: I worked in classical music radio for twenty years. You could just watch the phones light up if you mispronounced some really, really obscure Baltic or Balkan or Scandinavian name. [And yes, they "lit up." Phones don't ring in a studio.]

It's actually "free range." Insurance companies taste better that way.

Right-wingers keep repeating their talking point that our nation's insurance company-driven, profit motive-driven healthcare system is far superior to Canada's or Europe's, citing scattered examples of lapses in coverage outside the U.S. to support their claims.

If this right-wing claim were true, then wouldn't all other Western industrialized democracies have converted by now to this "far superior" American brand of healthcare?

This hasn't happened, has it?

Apparently, most citizens in these "less superior" healthcare systems outside the United States are happy with their country's healthcare makeup, in one country after another, where healthcare risks and costs are spread out across the entire population, with many having public and private plan options and far fewer citizens falling through the cracks in healthcare coverage, as evidenced in the U.S. brand of healthcare.

So what the Republicans and conservatives in general are saying is: why don't these foreign countries adopt our so-called "far superior" healthcare system, turning the well-being of their nation's citizens over to the for-profit insurance companies, for-profit pharmaceuticals and for-profit HMOs, replacing their widespread and equitable healthcare system with ours, shredding their social safety net to tatters just like some individuals in the U.S. have done and continue to try to do to our nation's social safety net?

Like I said, hasn't happened, has it?

So, their healthcare systems ARE far superior to our healthcare system in the United States, and no matter how much the duplicitous conservatives in the United States lie, there is no getting around this fact.

I confess, the errant reign of reign over rein forced me to comment as well. Is there a transcript of the address? I do so hope it's not actually reign in there.

Are they letting on nobody but BlueDogs & Republicans on the media?

Today's 'All Things Considered' had Blue Dog, Congressman Mike Ross (D., AK-04) and that was it.

Neo, are you referring to the quickly-debunked (and, obviously, facially ridiculous-from-the-start) idea that the proposal limits health care providers and you can never change? Because that was from the definition section of the document, referring to the definition of "grandfathered plans," that is, not letting people make new plans and fit the definition of "grandfathered."

Yes, I do believe that was what Neo referred to. I think, however, that "quickly-debunked" is also misleading.

As I am reading the various blogs on this issue, there is a common agreement that to be able to continue to offer insurance, providers must offer fully "qualifying" plans, which would appear to be defined by the govt and may mean offering the same benefits as the govt plan. If so, then having a non-profit taxpayer supported plan competing against private insurance plans would likely soon make the private one non-competitive, effectively forcing the single payer plan that appears to be a major focus of concern by opponents of the plan. Similarly, botique plans that tailor health coverage in specific ways to limit cost or to meet individual needs would no longer be supported.

Dr Lemming @ 6:02
And it is always best served cold. ;-)

This thread is totally off the rails, it's our (lack of) common sense health care for crying out loud! Why can't repuglicans just state that the current system seems to be working out great for everyone. I still feel like some others that whatever hack ever makes it to signing, it probably won't be worth the signature. Industry owns the system.

I thank the President for his steadfastness on the public option.

Stay strong, Obama!

Kevin, you just may be right.

It's obvious, the GOP doesn't like government, yet, they receive paychecks from government, receive government contracts for their friends/family.

It's so sooo obvious who the Anti-Christ is - the GOP!

Oracle: So what the Republicans and conservatives in general are saying is: why don't these foreign countries adopt our so-called "far superior" healthcare system, turning the well-being of their nation's citizens over to the for-profit insurance companies, for-profit pharmaceuticals and for-profit HMOs, replacing their widespread and equitable healthcare system with ours, shredding their social safety net to tatters just like some individuals in the U.S. have done and continue to try to do to our nation's social safety net?

European nations and Canada are enlarging their systems by allowing private insurance companies to provide (and charge for) services that the national plans to not provide.

We know Ben Nelson of Nebraska is one of the senators leading against health care reform, evidently his state is happy with what they have, why couldn't we do the reform and allow Nebraska and any like minded state to opt out, I would think that would take care of the problem, why should Nelson deny others what they want?

JS

Well, if we want to have a mobile workforce, and if we don't want to leave Nebraska workers too afraid of losing coverage to change jobs, we need a national plan.

I know that you can call people on the iphone and not the itouch, but what else is different? For example, do both of them have internet? If so, do you pay extra fees for the internet? Or does it come with the package? Please give information about other applications as well! I'm planning on getting one...don't know which yet...so yeah. Thanks!

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