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July 22, 2009

QUOTE OF THE DAY.... Sen. George Voinovich (R-Ohio) appeared on CNBC's "Squawk Box" this morning for the kind of softball interview one might ordinarily associate with Fox News. One of the two hosts, for example, thanked the Republican "for his leadership" because "we're headed off a fiscal cliff."

The interview wrapped up with this interesting exchange.

Host: Senator, one question, before we go, on health care. How much of this disagreement with the administration is about the policy of health care and how to fix it, and how much of it is Republicans' obviously understandable desire to declaw the president politically. How much does that fit into the equation?

Voinovich: I think it's probably 50-50.

Putting aside the obvious slant of the question, Voinovich's candid response was nevertheless interesting. At least half of the Republican opposition to health care reform, according to a sitting Republican senator, is nothing more than partisan politics.

Good to know.

Steve Benen 12:40 PM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (11)

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It's fun to watch the right-wingers openly plotting against the Democrats on the Fair'n'Balanced network.

"So, do we use two or three gunmen when his car comes through the plaza?"
"We should use three, just to be on the safe side."

Posted by: Speed on July 22, 2009 at 12:46 PM | PERMALINK

50-50 my arse...

Posted by: Mike Lamb on July 22, 2009 at 12:46 PM | PERMALINK

I'm starting to feel about the healthcare reform "debate" the same way I felt in October about the presidential election: when we win, I'm gonna be dancing in the fuckin' street.

Posted by: Chocolate Thunder on July 22, 2009 at 12:53 PM | PERMALINK

the teevee sure does have a buncha shit to shovel. fun stuff...

i liked geo voinovich better back when he cried a lot and thought his republican asylum-mates we're out to get him.

looks like he's back off his meds and joined the chorus.

Posted by: neill on July 22, 2009 at 12:56 PM | PERMALINK

Did anyone in the msm ever use the term "declaw" in reference to Bush?

I realize this is hopelessly naive, but whatever happened to doing what's best for the country?

(& btw in reference to the "fiscal cliff" thing -- I was under the impression that much of Obama's budget buster policies are simply inherited from Bush. We'd have to go all the way back to LBJ to find a free-spending Democratic president. And still, the meme has legs. A population of under-educated people who don't pay attention to their government is a wonderful thing.)

Posted by: zhak on July 22, 2009 at 12:59 PM | PERMALINK

But partisan politics illustrates a bipartisan nobility, if you're a Republican. Democrats cannot choose to be partisan, because that wouldn't be bipartisan.

Posted by: qwerty on July 22, 2009 at 1:09 PM | PERMALINK

50/50? That's bi-partisanship you can believe in.

Posted by: superfly on July 22, 2009 at 1:11 PM | PERMALINK

Did anyone in the MSM ever use the term "fiscal cliff" in reference to Bush/Cheney.

Posted by: ckelly on July 22, 2009 at 1:19 PM | PERMALINK

Fie on the Senator.

My meds cost $110 a month 5% of my income. This does not include regular Dr's visits, 2 per month at $25 per visit, plus various deductables. My health indurance costs me $128 per month and my employeer about $300 per month (and that's negotiated lowest bid for an entity with over 6000 employees)

Now, I realize that the Republicans would rather have me die than have the government try to lower these costs for myself and my employeer -- but it's costing about $600 per month to keep me healthy.

And I am a single guy, people with spouses and kids are even more expensive.

We are about to layoff bunches of people and if health costs were reduce by half, we could afford to keep these employees.

So I am of the opinion that its better to have the government create a public plan which will lower costs, than to have things continue the way they are.

I think Republicans rather have massive amounts of people unemployeed, and become a liability for the various governments, than to lower costs and preserve jobs for many of them.

I wish I was wrong.

Posted by: Kurt on July 22, 2009 at 1:23 PM | PERMALINK
At least half of the Republican opposition to health care reform, according to a sitting Republican senator, is nothing more than partisan politics.

More precisely, according to a sitting Republican Senator, exactly half of the Republican opposition to health care reform being partisan politics is the most likely case.

One can, of course, reasonably infer that—since a sitting Republican Senator has no motive to overstate the degree to which the opposition is based on partisan politics, and every reason to understate it—the amount is at least 50%, but you cannot properly attribute that inference to the sitting Republican Senator.

Posted by: cmdicely on July 22, 2009 at 1:25 PM | PERMALINK

"One of the two hosts, for example, thanked the Republican 'for his leadership' because 'we're headed off a fiscal cliff'."

They're only about nine years behind the curve.

Posted by: Joe Friday on July 22, 2009 at 1:30 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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