it is interesting to see just how many Republicans are deranged enough to sign on as co-sponsors

In the spirit of bipartisanship, half of the Democrats should agree to co-sponsor this bill as well.

Genrally, I'd say the right doesn't need anyone's help to look foolish.

However, I am getting a bit worried that this "birther" b.s. is getting so much attention.
Sure, it's nonsense, but like a lot of right-wing drivel, there's just enough common sensical gloss to it ("hey, why doesn't Obama release his birth certificate?") that I fear it may get more traction, thus forcing Obama to address the issue making Obama seem weak.

Notice how many of these of these birther space-cadets are treacherous, secessionists from TX? It's something like 50 - 60%. Coincidence, or...

Is that succession thing a promise or a threat?

Obama should request a copy of his birth certificate to be sent one to every gooper in Congress - with a dot of blood for DNA testing, to ensure he's not a monkey alien from the Planet Ist (as in Socialist, Communist, Marxist, etc.)

How can so many dumb ass people get elected again and again?

What's the saying?... After being repeatedly hit over the head with a shovel, you would think that they would turn around to see who is wielding that shovel.

That would be the GOP.

And they keep getting reelected.

Thirty years of brainwashing has been effective.

The purpose of this is to fill up the cable networks and broadcast airwaves and political blogs with inane drivel, thereby preempting serious discussion of serious issues, thereby furthering the corporate-owned media's goal of keeping the American people ignorant and making them stupid.

Good. Dems should force the bill to the floor for a full vote (no voice vote here!). Force Republicans to take a stand.

Gohmert's not deranged, he's from Texas.

" "What I don't know is why the president can't produce a birth certificate. I don't know anybody else that can't produce one. "

Well I do; one of my parents, in fact. Born at home on a midwest farm in the 30's, county courthouse burned down at some point later. No birth certificate.

That's for a REAL american, from the HEARTLAND, not some swishy beltway urban wanker like Blunt. So of course he doewn't know anyone like that.

I think the "Marry the GOP to the Nutballs" branding strategy shows great promise but they're seriously missing a bet by not getting on board with the Moon Landing Hoaxers, what with this being the 40th anniversary and all.

Maybe they could attach a rider to the Birther Bill. Let's clear up *all* the mysteries guys!

From a broader perspective, this sort of thing has been happening to Democratic presidents since Carter. For whatever reason, The Powers That Be simply cannot stand a Democratic president and will take advantage of every opportunity they can find to make their lives miserable. The media dogged Carter and Clinton and now Obama with a ferocity and determination thatthey never, ever exhibited with Reagan or Bush I or Bush II.

This "birther" nonsense is another example of that trend.

Stetson Kennedy, I'm writing your name in. You got it right.

Roy Blunt has no regard in the state of Missouri -clearly where his son, Matt, gets his /lack-of-ethics streak...'

Unless I'm mistaken, all of them except for Campbell, Carter and Marchant voted yea on the bill that affirmed Hawaii as the president's birthplace.

I actually saw a car today with a sign in the window that read "Where is the birth certificate?"

People that dumb, ignorant, or nutty should not be issued driver's licenses.

When Posey unveiled the bill in March, he stood alone, literally and figuratively.

This literally is confusing me. Do all reps stand up together when they cosponsor a bill? I haven't watched enough CSPAN to know.

what does every other Hawaiian citizen's birth certificate from that year look like? Don't they look exactly the same as Obama's? Are we disputing their citizenship, too?

And now Andrew Sullivan, a reasonable conservative, has gone Birfer as well. So sad. http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/07/the-original-1.html

@Missourimule
Maybe some entrepreneur can print some bumper stickers you can carry with you and slap on birthers' cars that say, "Yes, I'm batsh*t crazy."

Didn't the House just unanimously agree this week that Obama was natural born?

Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961.

The speed with which they contradict themselves is almost Beckish.

This, ultimately, is like the end of 1984.

It's the ability to look at a birth certificate and say 'that's not a birth certificate."

How many fingers am I holding up?

WHACK!

How many fingers am I holding up?

WHACK!

When you can deny the evidence of your own eyes, then you can truly love Big Brother.

So if this Birther Bill somehow passed, do the wingnut reps who sponsored it feel that Obama has the legitimacy as President to sign it and turn it into law? Just wondering.

THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!

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For Nut-Jobs Only: "OBAMA'S REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE" Bwahawhawhahahaaaaaa!!!!

Golly, what a co-inkydink that this bullsh*t suddenly comes to head at the same time as our healthcare legislation. Hm. Conspiracy theories, anyone?
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Yesterday, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) became the latest Republican congressman to declare support for the bill.

Sorry, I meant his cousin, Gohmert Pyle.

The birther movement unfortunately delves into more than just the bare claim that Obama wasn't born in HI after all. At e.g. http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2009/07/28/why-cant-hawaii-officials-get-their-story-straight/, we find complaints that officials first reportedly said, that the original BCs were destroyed; then later reportedly said they wouldn't destroy originals and had seen them. AFAICT this blogger is a PUMA.

Which is it: Vital records destroyed in 2001, or kept in archive?

I’ve said this dozens of times, but it bears repeating. I believe Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. There just isn’t any reason to believe otherwise. However, I maintain that he is hiding his birth records. Last year, I was the first commentator to theorize that Obama’s original birth certificate in the name Obama was sealed and replaced with one in the name Soetoro, as a result of his adoption by step-father Lolo Soetoro. Why did Obama want to conceal that information? I don’t know; you’d have to ask him. Maybe because the updated certificate reveals Indonesian citizenship?

So they will keep nibbling at edges like that. I don't know why there's an apparent conflict in the story of the birth certificates, but when someone even believes Obama was born in HI and still doesn't like the way the cookie crumbles, it shows how far such a thing can keep going.

Hawaii isn't really part of the United States; therefore, being born there does not make one a real American.

That may be the next line of attack.

No one forced House member to co-sign a birther bill, they did it all themselves. So how is it the GOP -- the party of Individual Responsibility -- blames Democrats for their own foolishness? Will they ever own up to their actions, not to mention the consequences of their actions?

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Mhr you worthless shithead, very few of us believe that Bush/Cheney were behind the 9/11 plot - but many "street" Republicans really believe Obama was not born in HI etc. And Bush/Cheney did fail to protect us that day, that is a *fact.*

The birfer nutjobs aren't gonna let go of this anytime soon. They're never gonna give up trying to turn this insanity into Obama's Whitewater.

'Cause they got nothin' else.

"What I don't know is why the president can't produce a birth certificate. I don't know anybody else that can't produce one. "

I can't produce one. All I have is a copy of a certificate of live birth from the state of Washington, and a hospital BC signed by the administrator and the surgeon who delivered me. It even has my cute li'l ol' baby footprints on it.

Neither one of them is a birth certificate.

Last year, I was the first commentator to theorize that Obama’s original birth certificate in the name Obama was sealed and replaced with one in the name Soetoro, as a result of his adoption by step-father Lolo Soetoro. Why did Obama want to conceal that information? I don’t know; you’d have to ask him. Maybe because the updated certificate reveals Indonesian citizenship?

Priceless, isn't it. Some Wacko 'theorizes', ie pulls some stuff out of his/her back side, and in the next sentence that stuff is already a fact which Obama is concealing. And while we're at it, let's whip this horse some more.

These guys are really wondering why they are being ridiculed.

The economy may be starting to turn around, the war in US role in the war in Iraq is winding down, we're having a serious debate about health care on Capitol Hill and the GOP answers not with their own alternatives but with . . . teabags and "birther" issues. This despite the fact that GOP party leaders agree Obama was born in Hawaii and in spite of the fact that Bush's tax cuts and de-regulation got us to where we were seven months ago, before Obama even took office.

I'm at a loss to describe the utter asininity of the modern-day GOP. They have all the relevance of mud wrestlers.

as a result of his adoption by step-father Lolo Soetoro. Why did Obama want to conceal that information? I don’t know; you’d have to ask him. Maybe because the updated certificate reveals Indonesian citizenship?

If a child is a US citizen, nothing his parents or step parents do can alter that status. Citizenship can be renounced, but only by an adult.

I can't produce one. All I have is a copy of a certificate of live birth from the state of Washington, and a hospital BC signed by the administrator and the surgeon who delivered me. It even has my cute li'l ol' baby footprints on it.

Ditto. in fact I tried to submit the hospital one to the passport agency while a college student and they laughed in my face. Had to borrow my parents' credit card to get the state of Ky to mail me the correct "official" one. Which looked exactly like Obama's COLB, only blue. hmmmm. what are my parents hiding?

I wonder if a Born Again Christian needs a new birth certificate?

That aside, maybe the Supreme Court could declare that President Obama is, indeed, the President. It worked for the Bush/Cheney grab for power, didn't it? Even though Cheney was born on Remulak, child of conehead parents.

The time lines, places, actions, motives, when analyzed, support, and are consistent with, what is the answer to the Obama birth puzzle:

Obama’s grandmother is his mother and his mother is his sister.

Think about it. Review all the facts and claims.