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August 1, 2009

INTERESTING GUEST LIST.... When I first received an email yesterday telling me that Michelle Malkin would be a guest on ABC's "This Week with George Stephanopoulos," I thought it was a joke. I assumed it was an example of exaggerating for comedic effect -- as in, "The Sunday morning shows' guest lists tilt to the right so often, one of these days, we'll even see Malkin on."

It turns out, this wasn't a joke.

Here are the scheduled guests for the Sunday public affairs shows and other weekend programs....

This Week hosts Treas. Sec. Tim Geithner and ex-Fed Chair Alan Greenspan. The roundtable is author/columnist Michelle Malkin, Atlanta Journal-Constitution's Cynthia Tucker, Bloomberg's Al Hunt and Wall Street Journal's Jerry Seib.

This is the Malkin of "The Defeatocrats' Cheer." The Malkin of "In Defense of Internment." The Malkin who went after a 12 year old and his family over their support for expanding S-CHIP. This Michelle Malkin.

Malkin has her shtick, and she's a very effective advocate of far-right ideas. But her appearance tomorrow is a reminder that it doesn't matter how right wing a political observer is; if he/she has something provocative to say, he/she will get airtime from major media outlets.

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Stopped watching Georgie a long time ago

Posted by: polaris on August 1, 2009 at 10:43 AM | PERMALINK

Malkin's the most popular columnist in the local newspaper. Then again, our Member of Congress wants to abolish the income tax and forbid deficit spending, while expanding NASA (which is an important bit of the local economy) and building more VA hospitals (lots of retired military, too).

Posted by: David Martin on August 1, 2009 at 10:45 AM | PERMALINK

I'll pass. But next week is cool, they have the guy with the "Get a brain Morans!" sign.

Posted by: Essjay on August 1, 2009 at 10:46 AM | PERMALINK

Who cares....it's not like anybody outside the Beltway actually watches these things anyway!

Heck, here in Seattle, our local affiliates often run paid informercials instead.

Nobody outside of the politically obsessed could give a hoot about the Sunday talk shows, so stop obsessing over them!

Posted by: mfw13 on August 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM | PERMALINK

Actual debates about actual policies that are related to actual reality is booooriiiing.

Posted by: MattF on August 1, 2009 at 10:54 AM | PERMALINK

That Geporge Stephanopoulos and James Carville were the two guys most responsible for inflicting the Clintons on us says all you need to know about both of these whores - neither of whom ever met a buck they'd turn aside.

But thanks for an additional reason not to watch Villager TV, which is what I call the Sunday morning talk shows, all of which I stopped watching 20 years ago.

Posted by: TCinLA on August 1, 2009 at 10:55 AM | PERMALINK

I think she's pimping her new book. I actually saw her on C-Span last night here in Tampa, Washington Journal, I believe. It was kind of funny (in a gruesome way, of course) to hear her refer to her latest screed as a "thesis". I guess Liz Cheney and Ann Coulter were busy this week.

Posted by: Kordo on August 1, 2009 at 10:57 AM | PERMALINK

What is it with the sudden media resurgence of Malkin? After her S-CHIP debacle, I thought she had been banished to the outer reaches of the right-wingnuttia.

There is no reason why the likes of Malkin should be taken seriously by the mainstream media. None.

Posted by: grape_crush on August 1, 2009 at 10:58 AM | PERMALINK

I'm continually fascinated that these shows never book the far left equivalents to the far right bloviators. You see the likes of Ann Coulter and Malkin and Pat Buchanan on the tube day and night. Folks like Howard Zinn and Noam Chomsky are apparently off-limits.

Just goes to show how narrow the Village consensus is.

Posted by: Doctor Whom on August 1, 2009 at 10:58 AM | PERMALINK

Back before the internet, I used to watch those shows all the time. Brinkley, McLaughlin, the Paul Duke Washington Week. The pundits had refreshing candor, compared to the staid and often unenlightening hard news coverage. Plus, in those days it wasn't quite so obviously tilted right, as there was no Fox News to feed constant Wurlitzer crap into the discourse.

By now the pundit shows are fossilized, predictable and stuffed to the gills with rightie whackjobs. I haven't watched one of those things all the way through in many years.

Posted by: jimBOB on August 1, 2009 at 11:03 AM | PERMALINK

Malkin on a Sunday Hot Gas Bag MSM outlet? Not an issue for me as I choose Sunday as a day of worship, not a day to spend watching idiocy on the boobtoob. Cheers to Michelle - I hope the camera angles are kind to her. After all, I've heard there's a reason people choose to do radio! -Kevo

Posted by: kevo on August 1, 2009 at 11:10 AM | PERMALINK

If Michelle Malkin looked like Helen Thomas, does anyone honestly think she'd ever be booked on television?

Posted by: clonus on August 1, 2009 at 11:10 AM | PERMALINK

After recently reading two (lengthy) reviews of the brave , brave , Michelle Malkin defence of internment , it seems she has been encouraged to seize opportunity with another exercise including her curious talent of amazin' befuddled reason .

Malkin's latest screed on Obamas' 'culture of corruption' has a distinctly Clintonesque scent

Thursday, July 30, 2009

by Dave

Michelle Malkin has a new book out. If it's as well researched as her two most recent outings -- which featured the classic right-wing technique of gathering any smidgen of evidence one can find to support a thesis (no matter how dubious or downright false) while carefully excising any smidgen of contradictory evidence (no matter how mountainous) -- it promises to be a real mess.

Ahh yes, her calendar is busy because of ?

The darn old liberal media strikes again
I miss the honesty of the John Birch Society
Intentional befuddlement or as Sen Franken might say Lies and the lying Liars

Posted by: FRP on August 1, 2009 at 11:11 AM | PERMALINK

I'm going to come to Gwen Ifill's defense again. I think Washington Week is the best talking heads show on TV, perhaps because there are no pols appearing on it, and no pundits. It's all working reporters talking about the stories they are actually, you know, researching.

Of the Sunday Gasbags, I think Schieffer on Face the Nation is still worth a look. Only a half hour and rarely fluff, perhaps because he IS of the old school.

Could never figure out George Steph's journalism creds when they gave him this job. Insider Washington creds, maybe.

Posted by: Cal Gal on August 1, 2009 at 11:12 AM | PERMALINK


Posted by: FRP on August 1, 2009 at 11:14 AM | PERMALINK

BTW, if you Google This Week with George you get a direct link to
"Have Your Say."

I've had my say. Go have yours.

Posted by: Cal Gal on August 1, 2009 at 11:24 AM | PERMALINK

Uh Dr.Whom I'm stunned that you would compare Zinn and Chomsky with any of the clowns you mentioned.It's like comparing gold to cow patties.

Posted by: par4 on August 1, 2009 at 11:30 AM | PERMALINK

"Folks like Howard Zinn and Noam Chomsky are apparently off limits."

Uh Dr.Whom I'm stunned that you would compare Zinn and Chomsky with any of the clowns you mentioned.It's like comparing gold to cow patties.ff-limits."

Which begs the question, who are the left wing nut jobs other than those smeared by the MSM as out there? There have to be some.

Posted by: Glen on August 1, 2009 at 11:35 AM | PERMALINK

I'm not sure even Zinn or Chomsky qualify as left-wing nutjobs comparable to Malkin of Coulter.
Zinn is a historian that wrote a popular history of the United States by responsibly using primary documents (AFAIK, I found the book really tedious and overly dramatic). Chomsky complains about how corrosive discourse has become and also supports his ideas with facts. You may be horrified by his conclusions, but I think his ideas are carefully thought out.

The frightening thing is WHO CAN WE EVEN THINK OF? The left has been so wiped out of the media landscape that the only people we can think of both had their heyday in the seventies and early eighties. The most "extreme" respected figure on the left right now is Michael Moore, and he's only radical because he's fat, dresses like crap, and doesn't shave... I can't think of any really extreme lefties on par with Chomski. Moyers, Dean, Maddow, Olberman -- think they're all tame compared to the right wing radicals.

We've been so shut out, we don't even know who could possibly push the overton window for the left.

Posted by: inkadu on August 1, 2009 at 11:54 AM | PERMALINK

Dennis Kucinich has reserved special , frothy attentions .

Posted by: FRP on August 1, 2009 at 11:55 AM | PERMALINK

Malkin didn't just "go after" a 12 year old boy and his family, she stalked them, going so far as so spy into their windows.

That woman is creepy, and dangerously self-righteous.

Posted by: jcricket on August 1, 2009 at 11:56 AM | PERMALINK

The appellation "left" doesn't really exist . The common term is Far , far , Left ...

Posted by: FRP on August 1, 2009 at 11:58 AM | PERMALINK

Taken from "A Tale of two Cities"
"It is far , far , extremist thing I do"

Posted by: FRP on August 1, 2009 at 12:01 PM | PERMALINK


Posted by: mhr on August 1, 2009 at 12:25 PM | PERMALINK

So where are the progressives and leftists with something provocative to say? Do you realize that NO ONE has ever really talked about or tried to sell a true universal health care plan?!? All Obama did was dump it onto the corrupt Congress, which is why whatever we get will be a piece of you-know-what.

Posted by: John Hamilton Farr on August 1, 2009 at 12:28 PM | PERMALINK

MHR - My point is that our centrists have a few programs, but our extremists can't even get on Sunday talk shows.

Meanwhile MM does not have her own show, but extremist Glenn Beck has a national show and a radio show, and there are several more like him.

But you are neurologically unable to discuss this because you see things only in black and white, liberal OR conservative. Though, to be fair, you probably also include conservative race traitor into your schema.

Posted by: inkadu on August 1, 2009 at 12:48 PM | PERMALINK

I understand that immediately following Malkin, Stephanopolous will interview the crazy birther lady waving her birth certificate in a baggy. Should be a real ratings grabber!

Posted by: Capt Kirk on August 1, 2009 at 12:54 PM | PERMALINK


Now that's a comparison I'll take ALL DAY LONG.

Let's get those two together and put it on national TV. Another 30% of conservatives would switch to independent in complete disgust of what the Republican party has become by the end of the show.

Posted by: Glen on August 1, 2009 at 12:57 PM | PERMALINK

Oberlin's flag lowers itself to half staff whenever Malkin's name is mentioned.

Talk about slipping through the cracks.

Posted by: berttheclock on August 1, 2009 at 1:23 PM | PERMALINK

"The honest John Birchers"

Makes me want to run out and buy some of Walter Knott's boysenberry jam. Nah, marionberries are in their last week.

Posted by: berttheclock on August 1, 2009 at 1:39 PM | PERMALINK

all i wanna know: is our ms malkin gonna wear her schoolgirl outfit from that video???...i might have ta run out and score a converter box....

Posted by: dj spellchecka on August 1, 2009 at 2:03 PM | PERMALINK

If ABC has invited Malkin on to completely humiliate her by showing what a fool she is and so send a message to all other right wingnuts that the mainstream media is finally insisting on journalistic standards, then her appearnace is a good thing. But if she is actually being taken seriously then I was right to stop watching This Week long ago.

Posted by: Ted Frier on August 1, 2009 at 2:14 PM | PERMALINK

It is not that Malkin is far-right I object to. It's that's she's a clown with scant experience nor expertise nor education to offer any valid, reasoned and articulate analysis to any issue. ABC is obviously only after ratings, giving no thought to the mental pollution they are spewing on the air waves.

Posted by: Darsan 54 on August 1, 2009 at 4:57 PM | PERMALINK

I, like most here, never watch these shows except as referenced on the net but Malkin is an insult to intelligence and evolution. Putting her on TV as credible on any subject just gives rise to the term "media whore". Just look at the research she calls research...hearsay from anonymous sources of anonymous sources. What is it is the common response to witnesses of Malkin's ilk. I refuse to even say she is an American by the embarrassing things that come out of her mouth. George proves his tasteless petty motivations by even allowing this vomit on his program...meaning he will fish the gutters just to find players to demean the democratic agenda. Kucinich made George look like a drowned rat in his desperation to smear Dennis. That was something to witness...George's head exploding. Any show which features Malkin (besides Jerry Springer)instantly becomes trash. Liberal media would never...ever do such a thing.

What Darsan 54 said Xs 10.

Posted by: bjobotts on August 1, 2009 at 5:54 PM | PERMALINK

"...Malkin didn't just "go after" a 12 year old boy and his family, she stalked them, going so far as so spy into their windows..."-jcrickett

She's the one with the rope in any lynch mob who drools as she practices tying the knot. "Give me an M...give me a ..."...and they actually put this person on TV to give her opinion? Our media can really suck.

Posted by: bjobotts on August 1, 2009 at 6:02 PM | PERMALINK

As bad as Malkin is, look at the rest of the line-up. She is "balanced" by the not-at-all-extreme liberal Cynthia Tucker, and reporters from two business journals. All to discuss economic issues with Geithner and Greenspan. No wonder minimum wages, collective bargaining rights and other working-class issues get such pathetic coverage in the MSM.

Posted by: tanstaafl on August 1, 2009 at 6:05 PM | PERMALINK

Actually, it's spelled 'Maglalang'.

Posted by: melior on August 1, 2009 at 7:12 PM | PERMALINK

As tanstaafl says, it's stupid putting a self-promoting, know-nothing lunatic like Malkin on a show. But, the real problem is that even without Malkin, these shows cover the full spectrum of political and policy opinion, all the way from A to B. How many people watch these shows? I know I stopped years ago. I think the only people who care are the Sabbath Gasbags themselves, keeping score of their appearances to puff up resumes for the next punditocracy gig that comes along.

Posted by: jrw on August 1, 2009 at 7:17 PM | PERMALINK
mhr: "*"

Oh, really?

Posted by: Donald from Hawaii on August 1, 2009 at 8:34 PM | PERMALINK

If the so-called liberals invited to share the stage with her will do their homework, they'll make her look ridiculous.

I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: Quaker in a Basement on August 1, 2009 at 9:21 PM | PERMALINK

Stephanopolous is a whore of the lowest order. I have more respect for those who are out working the street.

Posted by: bluestatedon on August 1, 2009 at 10:58 PM | PERMALINK

Glenn Grennwald has a discussion on the corporate media that would shed light on this. Perhaps MM is on TV because the corporation that runs the network is scratching the back of another corporation that happens to be a publisher?


Posted by: Always Hopeful on August 2, 2009 at 12:33 AM | PERMALINK

It's not just a matter of how far right she is; it's that all the other roundtable participants are professional journalists, whereas Malkin is not.

Posted by: Nancy Irving on August 2, 2009 at 3:52 AM | PERMALINK

If you have a hard time figuring out how Malkin still has an audience, just spend 10 minutes looking at her. There's really nothing more to it than that.

Posted by: soullite on August 2, 2009 at 9:01 AM | PERMALINK
"If you have a hard time figuring out how Malkin still has an audience, just spend 10 minutes looking at her. There's really nothing more to it than that."

If I'm going to do that, she had better be dancing and writhing in nubile ecstacy around a pole onstage, while suggestively shedding her clothing one item at a time and most importantly, not speaking. Nobody who's sane would go to a "gentlemen's club" to see Dick Cheney in drag.

Posted by: Donald from Hawaii on August 2, 2009 at 2:02 PM | PERMALINK

This is why I do not shed tears when I hear the Internet is taking over news coverage, putting newspapers out of business and giving the major news networks a run for their money. Why anyone, anywhere would still be watching television to get their news is beyond me. Why watch channel after channel with the same (lying) talking heads, the same stories (often at the *same time*), and with the most asinine "analysis" of complex issues?

Luckily, there's www.washingtonmonthly.com and many other reliable news websites. My TV can just sit and collect dust.

Posted by: Limbaugh's Diabetes on August 2, 2009 at 3:18 PM | PERMALINK

Okay, okay. Nothing to see hear, move along...
I watched the segment and while George allowed her to yap on a bit here and there, he basically only directed one question to her and the other guests refused to even acknowledge her "points."
Cynthia Tucker eviscerated her arguments quickly and with no strain at all and surprisingly enough...the two business guys also gave her short shrift and dished out completely conventional wisdom, not right wing talking points. In fact, the guy from Bloomberg, after Malkin's rant on health care reform, just said dismissively in a very condescending tone something to the effect of, our health care system is a disaster and everyone with any intelligence knows it...

I was actually surprised at how moderate the WSJ and Bloomberg guys were. If the GOP was comprised of people like this, this country would be much better off because we would be having a legitimate debate. Instead we have morons like Beck in the right wing media, Michelle Bachman in congress and Michael Steele at the head. All sane, moderate GOP members should abdicate their party so that they don't have to be associated with these crazies. The only way the radical right can win any debate is to lie and frighten people. It is refreshing to know that there are conservatives out there who still want to fight fair.

Posted by: Ajaye on August 2, 2009 at 7:15 PM | PERMALINK



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