August 12, 2009
DOBBS AND DEAN.... CNN President Jon Klein has reportedly decided that the cable news network shouldn't have talk-radio hosts on as guests. According to a message obtained by Media Bistro, Klein told CNN producers, "Complex issues require world class reporting." He added that talk radio hosts too often add little more than noise, with rhetoric that is "all too predictable."
And while the wisdom of this edict is open to debate, CNN's biggest problem isn't the talk-radio personalities who appear as guests, it's a talk-radio personality who appears as a host.
Lou Dobbs, for example, has been getting increasingly nutty as the year progresses, and this week he lashed out at Howard Dean. "I thought we had gotten rid of this left-wing pest for a while," Dobbs said of the former Vermont governor. "But I guess he is just resurgent.... He's a bloodsucking leftist. I mean, you gotta put a stake through his heart to stop this guy."
When some suggested such over-the-top rhetoric might be inappropriate, Dobbs backpedaled ... a little.
In a statement to the Huffington Post on Tuesday, Dobbs made a quasi-apology, wrapped in a dig at his critics.
"I'm sorry if a Bram Stoker allusion is too literary for some, and for those who could not make what was seemingly an obvious connection, my deepest apologies and I'll gladly withdraw the latter part of my remark," Dobbs said.
To clarify, Dobbs went after Dean on his syndicated far-right radio show, not to be confused with his CNN program. Indeed, CNN execs routinely emphasize the distinction -- what Dobbs says on the radio is of little interest, they say, because their interest is what he says on CNN.
But these efforts to split Lou Dobbs in two -- as if the CNN Dobbs and the radio Dobbs were somehow different people -- is unpersuasive. Like it or not, CNN, which aims to be "the most trusted name in news," pays a rather nutty demagogue quite a bit of money to host a daily news program, which has routinely focused on bizarre far-right conspiracy theories.
CNN's Klein told producers, "Complex issues require world class reporting." I couldn't agree more. But with this in mind, what's the defense for keeping Dobbs on the air?
—Steve Benen 8:35 AM
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And then there's Glenn Beck.
Oh wait - he moved to Faux News, didn't he?
Maybe that would be a good place for Dobbs too.
Posted by: Okie on August 12, 2009 at 8:51 AM | PERMALINK
Klein's hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Posted by: johnnymags on August 12, 2009 at 8:59 AM | PERMALINK
"CNN's Klein told producers, "Complex issues require world class reporting." I couldn't agree more. But with this in mind, what's the defense for keeping Dobbs on the air?"
With his ratings dropping like a stone, I would say the answer to your question is there is no defense for keeping Dobbs on the air.
Posted by: Ron Byers on August 12, 2009 at 9:01 AM | PERMALINK
But with this in mind, what's the defense for keeping Dobbs on the air?
They're not going to fire a commentator for being an arch conservative. Not as long as right-wing nutjobs have disposable income.
Posted by: chrenson on August 12, 2009 at 9:02 AM | PERMALINK
This is the key difference between Keith Olberman and the O'Reilly/Beck/Dobbs/Hannity/etc. wingnutiverse.
Keith -- while opinionated and passionate -- has journalistic ethics -- meaning that his opinions are based on factual reporting. If he gets a fact wrong, he airs a correction. On at least one occasion he even gave himself a "worst person" award for getting something wrong.
As for the other side, facts are, at best, optional and, at worst, actively shunned in favor of distortions, half-truths, and outright lies.
Posted by: Dave in DC on August 12, 2009 at 9:07 AM | PERMALINK
What's the defense for keeping CNN on the air. When it comes to "world class reporting," CNN is SOL.
Posted by: Jim B on August 12, 2009 at 9:15 AM | PERMALINK
All cable news channels should go a step farther and ban political consultants. Or have a progam on political stratagy where the consultants participate. Cable news should concentrate more on the policies and facts and not on political stratagy.
Posted by: Bruce on August 12, 2009 at 9:15 AM | PERMALINK
Perhaps Klein is incrementally backing into a decision to get rid of the increasingly deluded and embarrassing Dobbs by making a series of policy decisions that make Dobbs' position untenable. Too much spine on the part of a TV executive would be viewed negatively by his peers and bosses.
If there were any remaining journalistic standards, doubtful at best, Dobbs and his ilk would long be gone, or more realistically would never have gotten to where they are in the first place.
Posted by: rrk1 on August 12, 2009 at 9:21 AM | PERMALINK
Well, Jim B, there are Michael Ware and Christiane Amanpour, but then it's a loooong way to whomever's in third place.
Posted by: azportsider on August 12, 2009 at 9:34 AM | PERMALINK
@Bruce b...b..butt if we have no consultants...how will we fill all that air time. They all blab so well and you now barring the death of a super celebrity there is only so much nooze to spread over 24 hours.
Posted by: Jon Klein on August 12, 2009 at 9:35 AM | PERMALINK
On what planet is that an apology? Dean should sue for slander -- the network as well as the host.
Posted by: stinger on August 12, 2009 at 9:49 AM | PERMALINK
I hope Lou Dobbs elucidates and cues us in as to what this "obvious connection" is. I'm confused.
Is the "obvious connection" to Bram Stoker, who apparently isn't the first in people's minds when it comes to advocating violence against fellow citizens?
Okay, Lou, how about this -- I think someone should drive a stake through YOUR center left chest area (I doubt the existence of your heart) and through the center left chest area of Rush, Hannity, Glenn Beck, John McCain, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Ronald Reagan (just in case), John Bolton, Bill O'Reilly, the people on Fox & Friends, Rupert Murdoch, Roger Ailes, John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Michael Steele, evangelical conservatives, Mitt Romney, Rudy Guiliani, Karl Rove, Yoo and Bybee, Alberto Gonzales, Bill Kristol, Antonin Scalia and John Roberts.
And that's just for a start. I have left off the names of a number of deserving people but I just don't have time as I have actual work to do.
I'm sure others can complete the list for me over the course of the day.
Posted by: karen marie on August 12, 2009 at 9:57 AM | PERMALINK
Oh shit Barba -- how could I forget? Include at the top of that list Dick Cheney (and his spawn Liz) and his fingerpuppet George.
That should round out the list for the moment.
Posted by: karen marie on August 12, 2009 at 9:59 AM | PERMALINK
What do you bet that exceptions are made for hosts on the right, but Stephanie Miller, Ron Reagan, and Bill Press never make it back on CNN.
Well, until the board fires Klein, anyway.
Posted by: doubtful on August 12, 2009 at 10:10 AM | PERMALINK
Just the way traffic slows so that each driver can take a gander at the wreck beside the road, so too do people watch cable TeeVee.
It matters little to the producers if the airtime is consumed by Southern California car chases, troubled celebrities telling all, or a Right and a Left screaming at each other.
All three deliver eyeballs to advertisers.
NEVER FORGET broadcasting is a BUSINESS. . .
Posted by: DAY on August 12, 2009 at 10:17 AM | PERMALINK
Unfortunately, CNN has either become a tool of the White House, or their cowardly tails are tucked so far between their legs that their manhood is fighting for equal rights.
Posted by: Aisha 180 on August 12, 2009 at 10:40 AM | PERMALINK
CNN President Jon Klein is a laughable phony and a blatant hypocrite. Lou Dobbs is at least as bad, if not worse, than anyone on Fox News, and he is nearly as bad as Rush Limbaugh as a purveyor of lies and hate.
Posted by: SecularAnimist on August 12, 2009 at 11:08 AM | PERMALINK
What's ridiculous is that CNN knows full well that Lou Dobbs is a frothing right-winger, and yet they bill him as an independent.
Posted by: STL_progress on August 12, 2009 at 11:53 AM | PERMALINK
Glad to hear of the no incendiary radio personalities policy. Too little too late.
Methinks CNN is already too far gone. Suspect its prime audience is the elderly and those trapped in the rare public spaces with a TV not broadcasting Fox News.
CNN shines only in comparison to HLN, now NancyGraceland, but once a great place to catch a well prepared news roundup, similar to the nightly news broadcasts of years past.
RIP CNN. I'm already gone.
Posted by: Elizabelle on August 12, 2009 at 12:18 PM | PERMALINK
Dobbs tried to play it middle-right for many years, but he seemed to go off the rails when he morphed from "outsourcing is destroying America's Middle Class" to "Illegal Aliens (Mexicans) are taking your jobs from you."
Ever since, he's just gotten worse. There is something fundamentally pathetic about alluding to Bram Stoker's Dracula (which is still fine reading for a fourteen-year-old) as proof of not merely superior literacy, but of literary SUPERIORITY.
Back in the old daze [sic], a Conservative intellectual -- a term that's become an oxymoron -- would make an allusion to some obscure Latin phrase. Now Dobbs cites Dracula, only taking back the part about putting a stake through Howard Dean's heart. To The New Dobbs, this "leftist" now is a "pest."
Careful, Lou. People in glass jackboots shouldn't goose-step.
Posted by: Hart Williams on August 12, 2009 at 1:02 PM | PERMALINK
RIP CNN and HLN. back in 2004 i probably watched at least 8 hours a day on these channels, now i can only stand mornings on HLN and sat and sun morning on CNN. news around the world could easily fill a 24-hour news channel without much repetition. if only somebody would invent a channel that *just has the news*! CNN once called people like me an infomaniac; i still am one.
Posted by: DyNama on August 12, 2009 at 1:16 PM | PERMALINK
The crazy "base" of the Republican Party is now CNN's base audience. Who else would be stupid enough to watch their crap? CNN recognizes this and adjusts their programming accordingly. Both CNN and Fox are fighting over the same demographic - white, middle-aged and older, ignorant, pissed-off white people who listen to right-wing talk radio. It's an unsustainable business model, doomed to failure by the emergence of the Internet.
Posted by: Patrick Starr on August 12, 2009 at 1:19 PM | PERMALINK
Lou Dobbs is nuts and is now lying rather than reporting news on CNN. Too bad for CNN.
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