August 13, 2009
SHIFTING WITH THE WIND.... After Sarah Palin began making incoherent arguments about "death panels," Newt Gingrich was the first high-profile conservative to come to her defense. It was odd, at first blush, since many assumed the former House Speaker must have realized how ridiculous this was.
But Matt Taibbi found an even more important point: Newt Gingrich has spent years enthusiastically praising the same Advance Directives.
[W]hat happens when suddenly the Republican party decides it wants to scare the shit out of a bunch of old people by telling them the new health care bill is going to include a provision in which "death panels" ask them "when they want to die"? Now all of the sudden Gingrich is violently against the same programs he was so windily praising earlier this year.
And make no mistake, this is exactly the same thing. The only thing that's actually in the health care proposals is a provision that would allow Medicare to pay for exactly the kind of programs Gingrich praised, on a voluntary basis. The programs are not government-administered in any way, there's just government money now to pay for the private programs. And now Gingrich is suddenly aghast at them. [...]
This is as clear a case as you will ever find of a politician just getting up on television and just flat-out dogging it, saying something without even the faintest shred of belief, just as a means to an end.... [T]here are limits to how much even a politician should be allowed to lie.
Well, one would certainly like to think so. Of course, there are no limits -- anyone willing to bet Gingrich's shameless dishonesty will prevent him from being invited back to a Sunday morning show? -- which is why the lying happens in the first place.
Also note, Gingrich makes 180-degree turns all the time. Just two years ago, Newt said a cap-and-trade system on carbon emissions would be a "very good" idea that he "would strongly support." When Democrats did just that, Gingrich condemned the proposal he'd already praised.
And the reason this still matters is that the disgraced former Speaker is still a go-to leader in Republican circles, and is considered a "statesman" and a "visionary" by the media.
Gingrich is a pseudo-intellectual con man, as his "death panels" nonsense makes clear.
—Steve Benen 9:15 AM
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Newt's the future of the Repugnant party --always has been and always will be. especially now, right, al?
Posted by: neill on August 13, 2009 at 9:17 AM | PERMALINK
Hold up a minute, Steve. You're telling me that Newt Gingrich is capable of hypocrisy? Newt?
Well, I'll be.
Posted by: chrenson on August 13, 2009 at 9:24 AM | PERMALINK
From the Unabridged Dictionary of Republican-Speak:
Lie - anything said by a democrat
Truth - whatever we believe (whether we really believe it or not)
The entire point of the last 30+ years of rethugnican assault upon the Amerikan worker is to have a continuous bombarding of half-truths, mis-truths, and outright lies.
The result is to provide fodder for the reich-wing who will believe anything negative they are told about democrats. The result is to provide confusion for another large percentage of the population who will 'throw up their hands' and believe that everyone is lying to them.
And the winner is... Corporate amerika who continues to get their way because the amerikan publik is too stupid and too confused to understand they are being manipulated.
Posted by: SadOldVet on August 13, 2009 at 9:26 AM | PERMALINK
it is shocking to find that out after all these years, i'll have to admit.
Posted by: mudwall jackson on August 13, 2009 at 9:26 AM | PERMALINK
And the winner is... Corporate amerika who continues to get their way because the amerikan publik is too stupid and too confused to understand they are being manipulated.
Posted by: SadOldVet
are you talking about corporate "amerika" that's for reform, or the corporate amerika that's against it? i know this is shocking, but the corporate world ain't a monolith.
Posted by: mudwall jackson on August 13, 2009 at 9:30 AM | PERMALINK
So when are the Democrats going to take the gloves off and start pointing out the obvious hypocrisy of politicians like Newt, Grassley, etc. who were all for advanced directives, hospice care, and counseling a few months ago, and now proclaim their resemblance to Nazi policies? Why won't anyone in the MSM, state the plain truth in plain English?
Is Matt Taibbi the only one capable of this simple task?
Even more to the point: when does the full-fledged White House/ OFA campaign begin that points out how the Republicans have fought against every Government-sponsored health and social safety net plan since the Great Depression. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and so on were all labeled as socialist and part of a creeping Democratic-party run dictatorship to be unleashed on the American people. Instead they are all indispensable parts of our national social safety net. Ask anyone over 62 if they want to get rid of Medicare or Social Security. Then ask if they support politicians who have consistently fought against those programs. Then point out which party those politicians belong to. There are lots of brief, informative narratives to be explored in this genre with 30 and 60 second commercials.
On the other hand If Obama persists in maintaining his commitment to "bipartisanship" with an opposing party that kicks him in the face at every opportunity, he deserves to be a one-term president.
Posted by: frank on August 13, 2009 at 9:41 AM | PERMALINK
This is WHY newt is still the go-to guy for the republicans. He's a quote machine, doesn't matter what the facts are.
Posted by: paul on August 13, 2009 at 9:43 AM | PERMALINK
You forgot to mention his 180-degree turn on political leaders committing adultery.
Posted by: ibid on August 13, 2009 at 9:51 AM | PERMALINK
Steve writes:"Gingrich is a pseudo-intellectual con man"
Well, duh. P.T.Barnum had a sign in his sideshow that said 'This Way to the Egress', and Bernie Madoff said 'I can get you 20% per anum, ad infinitum.'
As to "news people" calling Newt out, well, first they put their finger in the air, to see which way the wind blows.
A wind, oddly enough, in corporate controlled "newsrooms" that carries not leaves, but dollar bills. . .
Posted by: DAY on August 13, 2009 at 9:53 AM | PERMALINK
Worse that Newt's dishonesty is the MSM's failure to POINT IT OUT WHEN THEY INTERVIEW HIM. How hard would it be to roll video footage of him saying totally contradictory things?
Posted by: Speed on August 13, 2009 at 9:56 AM | PERMALINK
I am a registered Independent. I am disgusted by the right wing-corporate propaganda continuously being disseminated. If the media were responsible the right wing sleeze would not proceed. Americans nee to be held accountable for not reviewing what is really being said. When the Republicans go on about Death Panels . It really means that Republicans believe in Death panels. Single payer is the way to go. 350 Billion dollars will be saved A YEAR!!! It will stop the horrendous insurance and drug companies lobbyists What a relief that will be!
Posted by: mljohnston on August 13, 2009 at 9:57 AM | PERMALINK
Why not bring Terry Schiavo out of the closet for Newt? That's the best example I can think of to counter the death panel nonsense.
Posted by: Paul on August 13, 2009 at 10:03 AM | PERMALINK
I am with Speed on this one. MSM has a responsiblity to put this lunatic(and others like him) down and squish them. Instead, they keep making them feel like they are the experts.
Posted by: Ajay on August 13, 2009 at 10:03 AM | PERMALINK
On the other hand If Obama persists in maintaining his commitment to "bipartisanship" with an opposing party that kicks him in the face at every opportunity, he deserves to be a one-term president.
If Obama continues his commitment to "bipartisanship," it will cement the case that he - as well as all other "bipartisan" Democrats - are even bigger con men than Newt.
I don't watch / read the MSM anymore for much the same reason that I don't read the National Enquirer.
Posted by: Duncan Kinder on August 13, 2009 at 10:05 AM | PERMALINK
mudwall, it depends on what you mean by monolith...do some corporations want to squeeze the life out of everything in the name of profit as quickly and cheaply as possible?
Yes, definitely... defines their fiduciary responsibility to their stockholders and mgmt -- to a tee.
do other corporate entities, for reform, prefer to latch onto the life force of society and leech it of all worth and kill all imagination except that which makes things go ka-ching, over a long term, generation after generation, blunting and leveling down culture forever?
Yep, no doubt. Thems the responsible forward-lookin' corps.
So, i guess yer right, it aint a monolith.
Posted by: neill on August 13, 2009 at 10:07 AM | PERMALINK
Dems really need to learn to bring a gun to a knife fight.
Posted by: hells littlest angel on August 13, 2009 at 10:07 AM | PERMALINK
When I listen to Gingrich, I think of an untenured, windbag, adjunct staff member at very mediocre community college. Which, come to think about it, was what he was before politics.
Conservatives have people like Gail Wilensky who know something about healthcare, unlike Gingrich. But Gingrich has better show-biz qualities; he will bring eyeballs that Wilensky won't.
Posted by: bob h on August 13, 2009 at 10:11 AM | PERMALINK
I'd settle for the Dems bringing a KNIFE to a knife fight -- doesn't seem to happen very often.
"I belong to no organized political party -- I'm a Democrat." -- Will Rogers
Posted by: Greg M on August 13, 2009 at 10:32 AM | PERMALINK
Sorry, that block quote from Matt seemed a bit like a rant--without a single link or shred of evidence. Newt is a sad, slimy con man, but I prefer when this site remains grounded in verifiable facts, not shrill diatribes.
Posted by: eadie on August 13, 2009 at 10:45 AM | PERMALINK
"Well, one would certainly like to think so. Of course, there are no limits -- anyone willing to bet Gingrich's shameless dishonesty will prevent him from being invited back to a Sunday morning show?"
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Invited on to talks shows? Hah, it doesn't necessarily stop there. Given the right circumstances this nation would elect the man President. You could install televisions at polling places showing a continuous loop of his flip-flops and hypocrisy and Americans by the millions would pull the lever for him. Especially if the opponent was a Marxist-socialist-Muslim traitor with a fake birth certificate and naked whiter girls beneath the Oval Office desk giving out blow jobs. Ooops, sorry about that last revelation, Chuck Grassley was supposed to have dibs on letting that cat out of the bag.
Posted by: steve duncan on August 13, 2009 at 11:08 AM | PERMALINK
Why not cut that provision from the proposals, then brag about the hundreds of billions of dollars tax payers will save by not providing end of life services.
Of course, then all the senior citizens showing up to complain will complain that they're on fixed incomes and can't afford the services on their own.
Where's my bailout?
Posted by: Banana-Eating Jungle Monkey on August 13, 2009 at 11:09 AM | PERMALINK
Dubya's 1999 Texas "death panel"
The Advance Directives Act, a death panel in every sense of the word that then Texas Governor George W. Bush signed into law.
http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/...
Focus on Section 166.046, Subsection E, which allows:
If an attending physician refuses to honor a patient's advance directive or a health care or treatment decision made by or on behalf of a patient, the physician's refusal shall be reviewed by an ethics or medical committee. The attending physician may not be a member of that committee. The patient shall be given life-sustaining treatment during the review.
So if a patient or his/her family don't agree with the physician, it goes before a board to decide the patient's fate. But wait, there's more:
If the attending physician, the patient, or the person responsible for the health care decisions of the individual does not agree with the decision reached during the review process under Subsection (b), the physician shall make a reasonable effort to transfer the patient to a physician who is willing to comply with the directive. If the patient is a patient in a health care facility, the facility's personnel shall assist the physician in arranging the patient's transfer...
So what happens if these Texas death panels end up winning - against the wishes of the family?
A person does not commit an offense under Section 22.08, Penal Code, by withholding or withdrawing life-sustaining treatment from a qualified patient in accordance with this subchapter.
Immunity from civil or criminal prosecution.
Posted by: getplaning on August 13, 2009 at 12:14 PM | PERMALINK
Whoops. Try this one-
http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/HS/content/htm/hs.002.00.000166.00.htm
Posted by: getplaning on August 13, 2009 at 12:19 PM | PERMALINK
Think Progress is reporting that Sarah Palin, as governmor, also supported end of life counseling in 2008.
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/13/palin-deathpanel-flipflop/
Gotta love it.
"Newt said a cap-and-trade system on carbon emissions would be a 'very good' idea that he 'would strongly support.' When Democrats did just that, Gingrich condemned the proposal he'd already praised."
So here's what the Democrats do to really screw with Newt:
Rename the cap-and-trade system the "Newt Gingrich Act", then Democrats should praise the former speaker for his forward thinking and vision.
Posted by: 2Manchu on August 13, 2009 at 4:30 PM | PERMALINK