I'm pretty sure they have a daily contest. The one who comes up with the craziest conspiracy theory of the day (judged by how many people are repeating it other than Fox News at the end of the day) gets some kind of a prize. I think there's also a monthly drawing or something. Maybe you can win a car? Something.

...Chicago-style tactics...

Those are the best. Served on a poppy seed bun with a pickle.

"Served on a poppy seed bun with a pickle."

And mustard and relish. No ketchup. If you put ketchup anywhere near it, we'll sic the entire White House situation room on your ass.

They are crazy people.

It's the only explanation.

"...Chicago-style tactics..."

Was Glenn Beck found dead in a bullet-sprayed abandoned warehouse?

I'm just asking.

You have got to be f-ing kidding me! Oh noze, it's black folks! People, the veil? It's not covering anything, you should just take it off!!

Whether Beck said something controversial or not about the President's reaction to the Henry Louis Gates arrest is not the question.

Riiiiigghhht, because even they can't defend what Beck said. It's certainly doesn't take anyone with ties to the White House or a "chicago-style" plot to bring to the attention of Beck's advertisers that he said something really offensive and ridiculous.

Really, they are beyond parody these days. It only took them 7 months to go completely and totally round the bend. Where do you suppose they'll be in a year? 2 years? 3 years? Instead of a "Betty Ford Clinic" they'll be a "George W. Bush Clinic" for all of his right-wing lunatics.

So, when do we see a confrontation between the editors of the networks and the FCC, Obama's White House, etc? There is no point in mentally masturbating on this blog until someone actually directly confronts the MSM, whoever that is, at the senior management level and asks them why they willingly advance proveable lies, day after day. I am sick and tired of the helplessness of Steve Benen and all these others who just complain and whine about the insanity of the MSM. What are you waiting for? An assassination? A bombing? Fox News and CNN and all the rest are complicit in the lies that are being slung every day. MSNBC is no better. Maddow & Olbermann will never out their employers as long as they have multi-million dollar contracts with them. They give cover to GE and Microsoft. When they go the way of Phil Donahue, then I'll believe they have some credibility. Until then, I don't buy it!

Those are the best. Served on a poppy seed bun with a pickle.

And I know I don't have to tell you this, but for the out-of-towners: You put ketchup on that thing and we'll make you disappear in the night. Your family and friends will never know what happened to you.

Next thing you know, you're going to have White House press secretary telling the media they need to "watch what they say." What an outrage! Luckily, we've never had an administration that would sink so.........wait a minute.......

Based on literally nothing else, conservatives believe the White House is going after the media and trying "silence" critics. Seriously.*******************

Correction. "Conservatives ARE TRYING TO MAKE THEIR BASE AND ANYONE ELSE FOOLISH ENOUGH TO LISTEN TO THEM to believe the White House is going after the media and trying to "silence" critics." (There, fixed.)

They are soooo predictable with their 'the sky is falling b/c of Obama' approach...; their hyperbole and histrionics are matched only by their hypocrisy a lying.

Sorry, Chocolate Thunder; I didn't see your post.

Where is the love for the celery salt and the hot peppers?!

hypocrisy and lying.

You can laugh if you want but a lot of people are understandably concerned about the president's very clear message that black people can say what they want while white people had better watch their mouths.

First Glenn Beck and then the rest of us.

"Far-right bloggers pick the strangest things to get excited about." Can't help it. THEIR dial starts at 11.

I like the "underground attack" part. Like ColorOfChange would shrink from publicity. I'm sure they would like nothing more than bringing increased attention to their efforts. But underground seems more nefarious.

CoC is a black grassroots organization

Is "grassroots organization" an oxymoron

Glen Beck is NOT a member of The Fourth Estate.

Oh my God. That is so far from reality, it makes my head spin.

Can you imagine Edward R. Murrow pretending to poison the Speaker of the House?

Can you imagine Walter Cronkite calling the President a racist?

This slow-witted, socially disgusting, rabble-rousing trailer trash is NOT a member of the 4th Estate!

Unfortunately, I have yet to see the 4th estate materialize. As I said above, there is no pushback against the MSM and until there is, I see no change happening. FOX wins and we lose.

Here is a real conspiracy movement to worry about, threats to Obama's safety:

ABC News Blotter

As one of the customers of Beck's advertisers, I have no qualms about telling that advertiser that I am appalled by Beck's statements and implications. I told them that either they would withdraw from sponsorship of that sort of hate speech, or I would withdraw from our commercial relationship. Any conservatives who have a problem with that can explain to me just what a free market is then, and then they can roll that explanation tightly and stick it where the sun don't shine.

I'm not sure why you say they pick the strangest things to get excited about. Basically it's a brainstorming session, where they throw everything out and see what sticks. All it takes is a few of them to stick.

For example, remember the War against Gore? They kept picking all kinds of crazy little things that he said that wasn't completely accurate to build a tale of "Gore is a liar". It didn't matter that half of the things were made up, and the other half were pretty minor.

You can keep calling these people crazy, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work.

You mean a bunch of black people wouldn't move to boycott a show host who called a black man a racist unless the White House told them to?

Mlke K: "You can laugh if you want but a lot of people are understandably concerned about the president's very clear message that black people can say what they want while white people had better watch their mouths.

First Glenn Beck and then the rest of us."

I must have missed the president's "very clear message." Can you provide a link? Any proof from anywhere but a wing-nut source? Come on Mlke K -- admit it, you just can't stand it that a black man, and a Democrat, won the presidency.

Good call, Carpet. "A lot of people are understandably concerned" sounds a lot like a concern-troll version of the infamous Fox News "Some people say..."

"You put ketchup on that thing and we'll make you disappear in the night." -shortstop

Is sauerkraut okay?

Mike K we can only hope what you say is true.

2Manchu, @ 16:38; I, too, wondered about sauerkraut, though would prefer horseradish myself. Shortstop, @16:01, you can keep your hot peppers; they're south-of-the-border un-American. You can keep your celery salt also; it's far too ee-light. And doubtful, pickles are OK, but only the true Polish ones - in salt brine (like sauerkraut), not in vinegar.

I guess, after that comprehensive manifesto, I had better stayed "home" in Virginia and away from y'all''s Chicago tactics.

And mustard and relish. No ketchup. If you put ketchup anywhere near it, we'll sic the entire White House situation room on your ass.

Ketchup (and Mike Royko) torpedoed Carol Moseley Braun's Senate career.

Don't mess with the Chicago dog.

Neil B ♪@4:12: Here is a real conspiracy movement to worry about, threats to Obama's safety:

ABC News Blotter

Reading the comments gives me the willies. Either the Republican operatives have completely flooded the mainstream blogs with fake posts, or we're well on our way to civil war. Every comment is exactly what I would say... except against them. It's as if Karl Rove is posting every comment.

Mlke K @ 4:03: You can laugh if you want but a lot of people are understandably concerned about the president's very clear message that black people can say what they want while white people had better watch their mouths.

First Glenn Beck and then the rest of us.

I am usually tolerant of parody trolls, but I just spent 15 minutes reading a mainstream blog (abc.go.com) and there is one very good reason to grow up and lose the childish fascination with role-playing: most of us are smart enough to know a parody when we read it... the average birther/astroturfer is not and will count your post as one of their own (the "real" majority).

You are causing harm if only in a small way. Peace.

Just posted 5 comments to the blog mentioned by 'Neil B...' @ 4:12 in a sea of venomous right-wing accusations that ABC is "in the tank", and nobody ever did anything over the death threats we made to Bush and the Republicans.

Only 1 comment made the cut. I hit refresh and this one comment was gone:

For a blog/network that is so "in the tank" for Obama, it sure appears to have a lot of nutty right-wing fans! Blog on, folks. It would all be entertaining if it weren't so frighteningly dangerous.

Disclosure: I spend most of my blogging time out of the mainstream. I am absolutely horrified by what I'm reading here.

As far as I am concerned, all the MSM, including MSNBC, are trolls. They do not make the slightest attempt to report the news without including the lies and smears as though they were simply valid counter-arguments to the more "liberal" positions. "Death Panels" are referenced as if they were legitimate topics for discussion. Others have referenced including "the earth is flat" as a legitimate topic to include in a discussion of planetary orbits and cosmology, to show the ignorance of the "death panels" arguments.

I am dismayed that supposedly educated and intelligent people who operate news outlets allow this insanity to be aired as legitimate.

Am I missing something? Am I that much more intelligent than Rupert Murdoch? I probably am. And all the rest of the media experts? It appears so.

Go ahead, attack me. I can take it because I know who I am.

Peace,
st john

... should have put the last paragraph in block quotes since it was posted to another forum (abcnews.go.com).

Is sauerkraut okay?

Go to it, my friend.

2Manchu, @ 16:38; I, too, wondered about sauerkraut, though would prefer horseradish myself. Shortstop, @16:01, you can keep your hot peppers; they're south-of-the-border un-American

Girl, you need educating in the ways of Chicago dogdom. Hot dog hot peppers are Italian, not "south of the border." You do not put horseradish on a hot dog, lovely as that condiment is for other things. You'd better come to town and I'll help guide you out of your path of culinary darkness.

Actually, I hate to say it, but the best hot dog I ever had was in Reykjavik. I don't do meat any more so all of this is just a memory, but that was a dog -- outstanding mustard, crispy onions, yum.

"...Far-right bloggers pick the strangest things to get excited about..."

Yes, which is everything thing they can possibly find to get upset about. After Bush they need to just STFU on criticizing anything.

most of us are smart enough to know a parody when we read it... the average birther/astroturfer is not and will count your post as one of their own (the "real" majority).

Feh. We're now making our comedy decisions based on whether the stupidest people in America can get the joke? You think parody is only effective when the person being parodied understands it? I think the entire history of parody and satire would disagree with you.

You are causing harm if only in a small way. Peace.

And doing good in a small way, perhaps -- seen that piece of trash Mike K around here lately?

"Apparently Beck...said something the White House deemed offensive..."

*In high, girlish voices, with lashes fluttering innocently: Gosh, what could it have been? We've gone over and over Beck's transcripts, and we just don't understand why that colored man in Washington should be so thin-skinned...

(Gag me.)

shortstop @ 7:13: Feh. We're now making our comedy decisions based on whether the stupidest people in America can get the joke? You think parody is only effective when the person being parodied understands it? I think the entire history of parody and satire would disagree with you.

"Comedy decisions"? Feh, indeed.

I once got myself into an awkward position with a co-worker early in my career. I was young and thought that everyone was as intelligent as me and recognized irony when it was presented to them.

The subject of Dale Earnhardt came up. Having grown up in rural NC, I had gotten my fill of both NASCAR and it's fans so I said something to the effect of "Dale Earnhardt is my hero".

His answer was "me too".

I had to pretend to be a NASCAR fan for the rest of my employment there. ;o)

"Dale Earnhardt is my hero".

Yes, good point; I think that line amply demonstrates your wisdom in forswearing future attempts at humor.

shortstop @ 12:02 : "Dale Earnhardt is my hero".

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