August 23, 2009
THERE'S NO NEED TO 'CHANGE THE RULES'.... It recently became clear that the Senate's reconciliation process may play a role in health care reform. And the moment it did, word apparently went out to the media that reconciliation is something radical, abusive, and dangerous.
While Republicans and political reporters started labeling reconciliation the "nuclear option" this week, Fox News went just a little further yesterday.
Fox News anchor Jamie Colby falsely characterized Senate Democrats passing health care reform legislation with a simple majority through a process known as reconciliation as "potentially changing the rules with the nuclear option."
Yes, if senators follow Senate rules, they're now changing Senate rules.
Labeling reconciliation the "nuclear option" is itself ridiculous, but to argue to a national television audience that using the process would be "changing the rules" is insane.
This would be a perfectly fair description of the actual "nuclear option." In 2005, Senate Republicans, outraged by Democratic efforts to block some of Bush's far-right judicial nominees, came up with a scheme to change the rules in the middle of the game. The Senate can change its rules with 67 votes, but Trent Lott & Co. thought they'd try it with 51 votes. Senate Dems, at the time, threatened all-out political war over this, which is why Lott referred to his underhanded scheme as the "nuclear option." (It was never executed, and the Gang of 14 struck a deal that let conservative judicial nominees get confirmed.)
Reconciliation, in contrast, is part of the existing Senate rules. No one's talking about changing anything -- just following the process that's already in place. It's a process that Republicans have used and endorsed many times.
Nevertheless, the "nuclear option" nonsense is catching on. In addition to just about every Fox News personality with access to a microphone, it's being used on CNN, and yesterday, MSNBC.
The right can't govern, but when it comes to message dissemination, they're Propagandists Extraordinaire.
—Steve Benen 8:40 AM
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Juan Williams made the same charge on NPR yesterday. Needless to say, his evocation of the "nuclear option" went unchallenged. The GOP is rolling out their latest rebranding effort (reconciliation=n.o.) , and the fate of a final healthcare bill may hang in the balance.
What do we do, folks?
Posted by: hamilton Cain on August 23, 2009 at 8:44 AM | PERMALINK
Take two IOKIYAR and call your brujo or bruja , in the morning .
Posted by: FRP on August 23, 2009 at 8:51 AM | PERMALINK
the fox soap opera can only garner the ignorant and angry. it is really cool that orwell's 5 minutes of hate is like a 24/7 station.
all they need is big brother over there for the 26%ers to get all shocked and awed, and a b movie portrayal of 1984 breaks out in this country like something out of pro wrestling entertainment. that revolution, my friends, will be televised...
Posted by: neill on August 23, 2009 at 9:02 AM | PERMALINK
"The right can't govern, but when it comes to message dissemination, they're Propagandists Extraordinaire."
—Steve Benen
Kabisa!
Posted by: mawazo on August 23, 2009 at 9:04 AM | PERMALINK
Reconciliation, in contrast, is part of the existing Senate rules. No one's talking about changing anything -- just following the process that's already in place. It's a process that Republicans have used and endorsed many times.
And the Democratic Senators that appear on today's Sunday news shows (assuming any are invited) should say just that and ask the the host why they didn't know that.
Of course, they wouldn't be invited back. But that would just free up more time for the Senators to solicit bribes from their corporate sponsors, so everyone would win.
And Juan Williams may not be a Republican, but he's their paid whore.
Posted by: SteveT on August 23, 2009 at 9:07 AM | PERMALINK
I think the use of the term "nuclear option" comes from the idea that in both the Republican judicial nomination issue and the current public option issue, the VP would be required to make a controversial ruling over the interpretation of the rules. In the Republican version Cheney (or the parliamentarian) would have had to rule that a confirmation vote was one of these mundane day to day votes that are not subject to cloture. In the public option case, Biden (or the parliamentarian) would have to rule that none of the Byrd Rule exceptions apply. The Byrd Rule was intended to prevent the Senate from abusing the reconciliation process to pass non-budgetary provisions, but it is so vague that one person (may have been Robert Waldman) argued that it comes down to the meaning of "provision" and "relevant", which aren't defined anywhere.
Posted by: Danp on August 23, 2009 at 9:21 AM | PERMALINK
Remind me again what Democrats got from the Gang of 14's compromise that allower the approval of the conservative judges?
Posted by: KTinOhio on August 23, 2009 at 10:25 AM | PERMALINK
There are a number of Democrats who rely on the obstructionism of Republicans to avoid making hard decisions. Sometimes, it appears that Harry Reid is the leader of that group.
Posted by: freelunch on August 23, 2009 at 10:33 AM | PERMALINK
"The rules" are very simple: whatever lets the Republicans win is allowed, and whatever might allow someone to defeat them isn't.
Clear now?
Posted by: T-Rex on August 23, 2009 at 11:34 AM | PERMALINK
That tired old hack, Juan Williams, has got to go. I used to think NPR would do better than him, but public radio on the national level has become so conventional and corporate, it's hard to distinguish from the commercial media. Oh that's right, the stories are longer, I forgot.
Posted by: jrw on August 23, 2009 at 12:20 PM | PERMALINK
Senator Grassley and Senator Conrad BOTH said on FACE THE NATION that you can't use the reconciliation process for healthcare because it was created only for "deficit reduction".
Really ?
Somebody forgot to tell Chimpy and the Congressional Republicans when they used the reconciliation process to enact tax cuts for the Rich & Corporate which resulted in MASSIVE federal budget deficits.
Posted by: Joe Friday on August 23, 2009 at 5:02 PM | PERMALINK
It's become intolerable. The GOP republican party and the MSM that is owned by them are demonstrating why they are no longer capable of remaining a part of a governing body. They've have been turned out soundly and are so desperate that they are willing to arm the minority and take it to the streets to regain power. When a sitting congressman applauds a self proclaimed terrorist, and the media throws out pure propaganda to incite violence by proclaiming that following senate rules is really a government takeover by dems...it becomes obvious that this group is no longer a functioning part of our democracy. It is a conspiracy to start a civil war funded by these "economic royalists" who refuse to have their power taken from them.
In the '30s vice president Wallace had this to say which is perfectly relevant today:
In his strongest indictment of the tide of fascism the Vice President of the United States saw rising in America, he added:
“They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection.”
Finally, Wallace said, “The myth of fascist efficiency has deluded many people.
Democracy, to crush fascism internally, must
develop the ability to keep people fully employed and at the same time balance the budget. It must put human beings first and dollars second. It must appeal to reason and decency and not to violence and deceit. We must not tolerate oppressive government or industrial oligarchy in the form of monopolies and cartels.”
HC reform is putting people first and dollars second and the private profiteers can not tolerate that so they set about to demonize all of government and it's institutions and yet we are the government...we are the majority...it is the minority that seeks to take away the democratic process because they cannot stand being the minority or letting anyone else govern besides them. We must not let that happen. We must stand for the truth and for the people so as to be overwhelming.
Posted by: bjobotts on August 23, 2009 at 6:45 PM | PERMALINK
I've noticed a slight change in the GOP talking point:
If someone points out that Bush used reconciliation in 2001,2003 and 2005, they respond:
"But they were all deficit-reduction-related" (when in reality, that's what created the deficit, moreover that 's not in the rules)
Expect to see a lot of that new lie in the coming weeks...
Posted by: Ohioan on August 23, 2009 at 7:35 PM | PERMALINK