Never forget that the blog Matthews and the rest are most familiar with is Drudge Report. Drudge is consistently wrong about almost everything, only issues corrections in the rarest of circumstances, and regards factual accuracy as an elitist foible.

Is it any wonder that they hold blogs in such low regard when their model blog is utterly contemptible?

Matthew's and his show is what it is - nothing more, nothing less. Matthew's provides candid, and many times flawed public argument on cable TV. Sometimes I watch, sometimes I don't. Some of his guests need to be spanked a bit more intellectually than he is willing to offer, and others get what they may. Don't mind Chris too much when he gets all romantic for facts!

It is Hardball, just with a bit of junk mixed in and that's why Matthew's seems like his arm is a bit worn to stay in the game! -Kevo

A journalist's job is to report opposing views. Leave the fact checking to the readers and viewers.

But who will fact-check the fact-checkers?

We live in a lunatic asylum and most of you nice rational liberals just don't get that. It's not going to get any better. 'Idiocracy' wasn't science fiction.

And while these tools were discussing that "bloggers don't fact check," I thought it hilarious that Joke Line piped up and said, "Oooh, I get corrections from online readers all the time!"

He acknowledged he's an error-riddled mess, but it's not those smarty-pants bloggers who are finding his errors but the intelligentsia that resides in his comment thread.

If I could have anything in the world, after wishing for peace and the end of hunger, of course, I would wish for Chris Matthews and Joe Klein to be banished to Antarctica and forced to watch loop tapes of themselves making asses of themselves on TV.

Tweety also knows that the wikipedia is a monstrosity of errors when compared with Britannica....

You know, Steve, I'm with Johndri on the last thread, and others who've made similar points lately. Betcha anything that we'd all be glad to have fewer but fresher posts daily if you stretch outside your comfort zone of predictable topics (the gasbag hacks) and dubious phrases ("confused" for "lying," etc.).

Having burned out as a blogger after only 18 months myself, I appreciate how hard this work is. Some days PA is absolutely on fire, but often (say, these last two threads), it's visibly on autopilot. If your posting weren't so constant and you allowed yourself more time for reflection, I bet your blogging would be more satisfying for all concerned.

Best wishes in any case.

matthews is an entertainer... why ask him about journalism?

That is a "who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes" moment if ever there was one. Matthews complains that the bloggers who fact-check him don't REALLY fact-check him, or themselves, or anyone really. Therefore, they must be liars, all of 'em. Care to show evidence to your theory, Tweety? "Nah, just TRUST ME, when they say I'm wrong, THEY'RE wrong. And they're always wrong, and I'm always right, even when I'm not, and on the rare occasion where I'm wrong and they're right, they're not really right; they just got lucky, like when they pretended to know Saddam Hussein wasn't aligned with al Queda and didn't have WMDs, and we went to war for oil by being told they hate us for our freedoms. LUCKY GUESS!"

And let's not forget that this multimillionaire 'journalist', employee of General Electric, was 'awarded' by Media Matters the title of the MIS-INFORMER OF THE YEAR a couple of years ago....

What I would like to see...
Gibbs opens up his daily press briefing with all the lies and the liars who spread them and debunk them. Maybe this will change the direction of the debate.

Last week on Colbert Matthews claimed the Kennedys (!) started the Civil Rights movement. Apparently, this is an argument he makes in his new book. When Colbert challenged him, Matthews defended himself by claiming that John Kennedy "was the first person" to opine that segregation etc. conflicted with the ideals of the Declaration of Independence. Chris Matthews is to ignorance what pigs are to their own feces.

The attack on the bloggers as rumor mongering by blowhards like Matthews is a strategy designed to undermine his critics. He knows quite well that his program is overflowing with misinformation and lies, but he can't stand being called on it. When the left starts pointing out his inaccuracies, exaggerations and lies, his response is to attack his critics. Unfortunately, he has the microphone, and the public is generally too lazy to look into the issues. By saying "Pay no attention to those misinformed bloggers," he is basically saying, "Trust me. You can't believe what they are saying."

Corley is wrong. It's not "ironic" that Matthews would attack bloggers for not fact-checking when they actively fact-check him; it's precisely because they fact-check him that he is targeting them.

He's nothing more than a shrew backed into a corner who feels his way of life and world as he knows it being threatened by something newer and faster.

It's probably worth pointing out that to these people "blogs" refers to right-wingers like Malkin & RedState. They traffic in spin & message, just like television news shows do, and a handful of lefty blogs where people get under their skin. For Joe Klein, of course, that would be Glenn Greenwald. :-) But Mr Greenwald is very careful to check facts & statements. However, Mr Klein is unable to give credit where credit is due, particularly if it tells badly upon him.

Matthews: The bloggers don't fact check.

This would be far more believable if he could point to examples where bloggers made major factual errors that weren't corrected. In my experience, readers notice errors of fact in blog posts and point out the errors in the comments, whereupon the intellectually honest bloggers correct the post.
I don't know how this works on the right, where there generally are no comments.

There's lots of fact checking on blogs. If a blogger makes a mistake, he gets mocked by other bloggers, flamed in the comments and garroted by about a zillion emails. And these continue until the correction is made - usually in about a half hour.
It's a far better system than old-style media, where a correction gets squeezed into a cubbyhole on A28 a week later.

I'd still like to see a blog devoted entirely to tracking the salaries, homes, vacation homes, parties attended, trips taken by our corporate media STAR PUNDITS...not just the hosts but the guests who show up constantly. There is NO ONE opining on this health care issue on tv or in print today that has the vaguest notion of what an "ordinary" person (REAL AMERICAN) deals with on a daily basis. They will never be without the funds to pay for whatever health care they require and even if they were have the "connections" to bypass even that situation. It is appalling to me that we are fed their drivel on a regular basis.

Good bloggers fact check all the time. It's called LINKING TO THE SOURCE MATERIAL.

If you don't retract your claim that Chris Matthews never fact-checks, I'm going to break into your garages and shoot all of you.

from where i type, the sunday parrot shows would be infinitly better if they booked bloggers......crazy, i know