The guy with spine is from Tucson...

Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Texas)

if President Obama drops the public option and the idea of non-profit co-ops, there could be "tremendous progress" on bipartisan. . .

. . .something for bipartisanship's sake. but if Obama drops all of the alternative forms of competition, it sure as hell can't be called reform.

It'll be interesting to see if the Obama administration and congressional dems capitulate to a minority party that represents roughly 20% of the population (not to mention that absolute nutjobs that comprise that 20%)

This is a very important moment in our history, one that will show us whether our system of government functions for the people or for the moneyed interests. Based on some reports today regarding the Supreme Court and corporate personhood, it looks like the the idea of an American democracy of, for, and by the people, has died.

All for absolute greed.

And the lady without spine is the Dim from SF

TPM is reporting Pelosi said after meeting with Barack:

For the moment, however, as far as our house members are concerned, the overwhelming majority of them support a public option."

Is TPM over-parsing here? Maybe. But it certainly does seem like Barack leaned on her hard. Fair enough. If you don't have the balls to lean on republicans you might as order the lefty sissy from San Francisco to heel.

And the media remain complicit with bi-partisanship. The Grassley got to appear and claim a bi-partisan bill is the best way to get something done but the station forgot to show a clip of his town hall meeting commentary.
Must they be so obtuse? It's rhetorical! I know at least one answer!)

Time to start beseiging your state congress and governor with attempts to add a state-only public option.
The public option at the Federal level is dead.

I'll even take a non-profit co-op model in my state...

I could live with a trigger if - and only if - three things were true (none of which seem likely):

1) The trigger has to be a genuine threat - that is, the mechanism has to be well-defined and set to reasonable benchmarks, and the details of the public option have to be worked out, and then set to the trigger. The trigger lacks a gun if it merely triggers a public option to be defined later;

2) Co-ops, however less effective, have to be in the bill now - there has to be some immediate alternative;

and

3) What we get in return for delaying the public option has to be substantial -- extreme limitations on recission, elimination of preexisting condition exclusions, extensions of COBRA and HIPAA, stronger patients bill of rights as to both providers and insurers, clear language that the bill does not preempt state efforts at more aggressive reform.

Frankly, it is a lot easier and cleaner to just have the public option now. But in the highly unlikely event the Congress can reach the deal I've outlined, I'd take it.

I wont, however, be holding my breath waiting. I think that would fall within an exclusion in my insurance coverage.

This is a very important moment in our history, one that will show us whether our system of government functions for the people or for the moneyed interests.

That question has been answered. The current crop of "reform" bills are likely to leave the health care of our citizens worse off than before, while affecting the insurance industry very little. Matt Taibbi in Rolling Stone makes a strong case that anything less than a single-payer system is a loser.

"The public" sure isn't against "the public option" when they are being covered by Medicare. We see it isn't really principled opposition, but rather hatred of one more $20 bill possibly helping someone else. BTW what do latest polls really say?

What does it mean to be a Democrat? Honestly, the word has no meaning. I feel sorry for the next DSCC/DNC/OFA beggar who calls me, but when you lie with dogs...

"House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) told reporters today the House may be able to pass a reform plan without a public option. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said the opposite."

The Progressive Caucus is larger than the Blue Dog Caucus.

Pretty straightforward.

doubtful, i already had a good call with OFA. They called to encouage me to attend Boswell's town hall. but the call started by asking if I agreed with Obama's health care plan. I responded that I was still waiting for him to announce his health care plan, that near as I could tell he'd left it to squabbling congressmen. then i asked the nice young OFA staffer if Obama's plan included the public option I favored. then when he asked about Boswell's meeting, i asked if that was the same Boswell who the week before had said he wasnt sure how he'd vote on reform. I doubt I was their favorite call of the day. :)

I doubt I was their favorite call of the day. :)

They don't even try with me any more. I'm on their Do Not For God's Sake Do Not Call I'm Totally Warning You Guys Do Not Call Her list.

If a picture is worth 1000 words, then this video is probably worth about 1,000,000 words.

If you don't have the balls to lean on republicans you might as order the lefty sissy from San Francisco to heel.

Too bad she didn't tell him to go fuck himself.

Pond-scum-green with envy about all of you who still get the calls (and can vent that way)... Me, I'm reduced now to sending cancelled checks with an explanation of "why", at 45cents a pop (stamp; my bank gives free checking accounts to seniors -- 55yrs and older)

How many public option stories and informational posts has Washington Monthly had in the last 4 months?

How many stories about Republicans?

Grassley figures he has every chance to win the general election. He's somewhat fearful that he might face a well financed opponent in the primary. Hence he will oppose any bill.

Baucus has to know that this is the case. But he comes from a Republican state.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) noted today that Senate Republicans haven't negotiated in "good faith."
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maigod ... this is beginning to dawn on him?

This Senate Majority Leader job, whatever it actually involves, must not involve being awake and out of pajamas very often.

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