There is only one purpose for this march -- to prove that Glenn Beck can mobilize the masses so the Obama administration will continue to cravenly respond to his threats.

I particularly resent their assumption that they own the day. The vast majority of these people weren't there and weren't really affected by it outside of the fact that their fears were finally validated.

In that sense, 9/12 WAS the best day of their lives.

The ultimate 9/12 celebration was the inaugaration. People celebrating and looking forward to the FUTURE of our country. Beck, Limbaugh and their ilk recognized this and have done nothing but try to tear it down.

Being mad about your side losing a presidential election doesn't seem like an especially compelling rationale for a rally in D.C., but maybe that's just me

It is if the victor is black.

Steve:

I rarely disagree with you, but I have to depart from you here.

I do think Beck earnestly wants all of Americans to be united again. It just that he wants us all to be united behind a extreme right wing government.

In this, I think he and his ilk totally misunderstood what happened after 9/11. He thinks that the countries unity was somehow transformation when everyone became like him (or at the very least when progressives were suitably cowed into keeping quiet).

Today's motto ought to be:
The flames went out. The smoke blew away. But we need the fear to linger.

They're trying to revive a "greatest hit's" of fear to create more fear of this administration. Fear is all that they have. Unfortunately, it's a great tool, maybe the best, and has been used effectively since mankind began.

It will be hard to recreate the thrill we all esperienced as we finally had a reason to invade Iraq.

Wind out of my sails time, but I was about to say what DK already said.

Beck's fascination of recapturing the feeling of unity we had the day after 9/11 is akin to a divorcing couple waxing nostalgic over the time they first fell in love, got married, went on their honeymoon, etc. Except that, in this analogy, the left is the spouse in the relationship that sees the partner as a lying, conniving, backstabbing douchebag who ruined us and made us look like assholes in front of all our friends, and Beck in his ilk swing from manically abusive ("I'll kill you if you don't get in line and do what I say!") to almost comically depressive ("remember how good we used to be together? We can still be that way...you know, if you shut up and do what I say.")

Yeah, I can see why a good chunk of Americans would want that kind of relationship. After all, it IS fun to play follow the leader, IF you're the leader (who said that again? Oh, yeah, our former "leader" Dubya). I can also see why a growing percentage of eyes-wide-open Americans would want to run away screaming from that kind of relationship whilst at the the same time trying to keep the opposition from going into full-blown kill mode...which a lot of them are one restraining order away from becoming.

12 September 2009:

Prolegomena zu einer jeden künftigen Putsche

Yeah, what DK says: Glen Beck wants everyone to the left of Rush Limbaugh to put the interests of the Republican Party's big donors ahead of their own...

In other words, don't question why the Wells Fargo VP in charge of foreclosures moved into a luxury condo in Malibu that had been turned over to her bank to avoid foreclosure - ask how you can help pay her to house-sit. (http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-malibu-wells11-2009sep11,0,740504.story)

LA Times:

Wells Fargo exec used Malibu Colony home lost by Madoff-duped couple, neighbors say

A top bank executive was seen spending weekends and hosting parties in the $12-million beach house. The bank says it will 'conduct a thorough investigation of the allegations' by neighbors.

Is this the same Beck who said he hated the 9/11 families? Of course it is.

I guess this is as close as the Right gets to finding a headliner with real credentials.

Beck (being an eager shill to his rightwing masters) uses his 9/12 excuse to evoke the sense of shock and anger that permeated this nation in the immediate aftermath of the attack, just as Bush and Cheney constantly used '9/11' as subterfuge to cow everyone into compliance with their plans.

He has clearly demonstrated that there are those who are willing to crawl into a fetal position and let others take control. Fortunately, most of America has recovered from the shock and realized that our leadership at the time was a primary part of the problem.

For the rightwingers, 9/11 was a gift that gave back many-fold. Beck and his ilk will keep milking the 9/11 meme until it can give no more. This time it just happens to be spun as a 'morning after' scenario.

Beck, being an egotistical solipsist, confuses the concepts "everyone was united in shock and grief" and "everyone agreed with me."

Beck remembers 9/11 as the day when he felt that his hatred and fear of foreign brown people, and his desire for a strongman Papa to take over the government and start smacking around the "others" was proven right, and shared across the nation. That's why they keep trying to remind people of it, because it is their primary evidence that their paranoid racist politics is, in their minds, justified.

9/12 is the day when, in Beck's history, all America wanted to strike out at brown people, and follow blindly behind an authoritarian white government, throw America's weight around, and make the whole world cower before us, (without paying taxes!)

Those of us who aren't prepared to sign up for that agenda don't get that, and are obviously traitors.

Part of the incoherence comes from the fact that Free Republic and other far-right groups had been planning this gathering for months, and Beck and FOX jumped on the bandwagon relatively late, mostly to further their own agendas.

Mostly, though, it's that there are a number of diverse winger factions whose sole uniting factor is hatred of President Obama. Christianists want a theocracy. Tenthers want to return to the Articles of Confederation. Nativists want to get rid of the black and brown folks. Secessionists want to revive the Confederacy. Anarcho-capitalists want all the money for themselves. And so it goes. They have some overlapping concerns; all believe that less government intervention furthers their cause, but should they achieve that, they have too many differences among themselves to form any sort of enduring coalition. If they were ever to be successful in toppling the federal government, the turmoil would only be starting.

Beck is an enemy of my way of life - I am a small d democrat, and I am watching a man who doesn't think twice when massaging the ignorant emotions of his following. He does not edify, he exploits! He doesn't exude a sincere concern, he projects paranoia! He gets paid large sums of money from the Murdoch empire to spew his hate and bigotry.

I do not fear international terrorists as much as I fear Glenn Beck's unhinged intellect. He will ultimately be held accountable for his charlatan ways, but it may be when he becomes but a speck of dust on the planet earth! -Kevo

What does this have to do with the feeling of national unity and civility Americans felt in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks?

Perhaps because there never really was such a feeling of national unity and civility?

And we would be better off forgetting that cliche'?

There's the GOP universe and then there's our own reality. They live in parasitic oblivion, their own zombie bubble, somehow within our own. Like a cancerous tumor, I'm afraid.

Great comments from those explaining Beck's POV. And wow, what a depressing America as painted by him and his followers. Fearful, obedient? What if America's founders felt that way? Forget independence, let's just take what our British overlords dictate.

Beck thinks that protesting one's government is good when you think it's wrong. I agree, I did plenty of it during the Bush years. (And of course when the left did it, we were unpatriotic and loons, and were told to love our country or leave it. Funny how I don't hear any on the left telling today's protesters to love it or leave it.) I do sympathize with those concerned about massive spending, but I didn't hear much complaining from these same folks during the Bush years which gave tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans and started an unnecessary war, which accomplished nothing positive. I don't take hypocrites seriously.

Beck and his followers are nothing like the founders of the country. It's laughable. Can any of us imagine Beck (or Limbaugh, Palin, etc.) coming up with the principles of the Constitution or even having such a debate? Of course not, they have nothing constructive to contribute, and they aren't smart enough nor can they think for themselves. Instead they show their complete ignorance by calling Obama and the Dems socialists, Nazis, commies, etc. and further tip their hand with racist signs against the country's first African American president. In short, they are simply ignorant and bitter. How sad for them and for our country.

And proof that we need a better educational system in the USofA! Perhaps an astute Dem congressman can introduce a bill along those lines - better history classes for kids *and* adults. Make the wording sound all pretty, but it's really slamming the Rs and tea partiers (think of the Abercrombie Hawaii bill designed to make the Rs vote against the birthers). Just a thought.

Bill Maher raised an interesting question on his show last night. Pointing out that virtually everyone, including Democrats, including Al Gore, put partisanship aside and rallied around George W. Bush after the September 11 attacks, he asked if virtually everyone, including Republicans, including Dick Cheney, would put partisanship aside and rally around Barack Obama if we experienced another attack.

Being as objective as possible, I don't see a smidgen of a chance of that happening. In fact, I see the exact opposite -- the rightwing nutjobs would use the attack to every political advantage, up to and including blaming Obama for allowing the attack the happen. The twisted irony is that anyone who accused the Bush administration of "allowing" the September 11 attacks to happen by (e.g.) failing to listen to Richard Clarke's warnings was or would have been accused of not just a lack of "patriotism" but actual treason. ("Patriotism" in quotation marks because what the wingnuts call patriotism is not actually patriotism.)

While I'm on the subject, I'm tired of hearing the absurd assertion that Bush "kept us safe" because there wasn't another terrorist attack after September 11. Yes, I've been wearing rhinoceros repellent for five years and I haven't been attacked by a rhinoceros, so the stuff must work.

[A]s someone who happened to be in New York City eight years ago today, I must say the kind of politics Beck represents is totally out of step with the majority of people who suffered directly through those days.

The last thing any of us ought to allow is trash like Beck to even think he can define what went on back then and its significance.

P.S. what SYSPROG said...

Glenn Beck makes $18 Million a year off of pitting American's against other Americans. Fuck Glenn Beck and his phony little rally.

P.S. Every time Beck goes into his trademark little act of pretending to be choked-up, I laugh my ass off at the blatant fakery of it. Then I remember how many people hang on his every word, and I sober up again.

It's a temper tantrum from an alternative universe, nothing more............and from now on let's refer to Beck as "The Loathsome Glenn Beck."

"When I see a 9/11 victim family on television, or whatever, I'm just like, ‘Oh shut up!' I'm so sick of them because they're always complaining."- The Loathsome Glenn Beck

Mostly, though, it's that there are a number of diverse winger factions whose sole uniting factor is hatred of President Obama.

Just like 1930's France, but backwards -- "No enemies to the right!". Voici! La Front Unpopulaire.

Far from honoring the dead of 9/11, the instrumentalization of their death by the wing nut central to promote its crazy agenda is a profound insult to their memory.

Slappy (@ 11:25), that's the most insightful analogy I've seen yet.

Someone should go and talk to the people and find out why they are there. Guessing is not good edtiorializing.

Teabaggers are singularly illiterate.

They seem not to know what the word 'option' means any more than they know what they word 'amendment' means.

Furthermore, in the wake of 9/11 people of every political stripe rallied round, lent their support to Bush, overlooked their doubts about him. This was all understandable, perhaps even the right thing to do at the time--though it went on too long. But--it can't be emphasized too much--the trust people reposed in Bush, and the support they gave him, was betrayed.

Glenn Beck has one goal: advance the celebrity status of Glenn Beck. You can see it is his porcine eyes. I have no doubt that he could flip his politics on a dime if he thought it would get more people talking about him.

9/12.... I'll concede that I've never fully been able to understand or relate to the concerns of those gathering on the Washington Mall today. Indeed, like the "Tea Parties" in April, I'm not altogether sure what it is they're protesting.

I'm not sure either but I think it has something to do with n*ggers in the White House.

The tea bagger rally is nuts. It's like an all-day PSA for increases in education spending.

I'm with mcmuff.

My first reaction, and by far my most powerful reaction, to 9/11 was that George Bush would exploit the tragedy for whatever he could get out of it.

And he did. And then some.

Unity? Are you kidding?

Steve,
Where else can I go to get so much great political commentary on a SATURDAY! You rule. Thanks for all you do.

If all those people are so puffed up about paying their own way to DC for a their carnival parade, why wouldn't they be just as puffed up about paying their own way to a new country just for them?

I think they would be much happier relocating.

Well, yeah, but by definition bipartisanship means the Democrats acceeding to every one of the Republican minority's demands. Beck, bless his heart, just wants to see the country think back to a simpler bipartisan time in late 2001 when Democrats would let themselves be steamrolled by Republicans so as not to appearing callous and partisan.

Republicans, needless to say, have no obligation to compromise on anything they want in the interest of bipartisanship or unity. That's because their interests are somehow magically aligned with Real America's.

It goes on like a bad dream that won't stop. I turn on the tv this morning to see the White House surrounded by a Dick Army.

It appears every wealthy racist in America has taken valuable time out of their retirements to flock to DC and sport silly signs.

Accuracy would compel them to march with banners that said:

We're madder than hell
-- but mostly very, very confused --
and we're not going to take it any more!
-- As soon as we work out what 'it' is.

I'm not sure either but I think it has something to do with n*ggers in the White House.

If Hillary or any other Democrat were in the White House, male or female, black or white, the result would have been the same.

These are equal opportunity bigots.

The Glen Beck quote is interesting, because it seems as if he's deliberately trying to echo and distort the speech that President Obama gave at the 2004 Democratic Convention. If one assumes that he proceeds with infantile cunning unfettered by conviction or morality, it suggests that he unconsciously perceives the 'united red and blue' as a potential threat to his popularity. Not necessarily at the hands of Obama, but perhaps coming from a left-of-far-right Republican.

Now if Hillary were in the White House these people would be freaked.

there wasn't another terrorist attack after September 11
Really? Afghanistan, Iraq, India, good grief, everywhere. GwB didn't keep americans safe, he exposed a large number of them, mostly uniformed, to attacks everyday. Not to mention all the people that aren't americans who were exposed to attacks in Spain, England, Jordan.
There wasn't anybody who took less care of people generally except the terrorists themselves.

The point of 912 is to say "remember the anger you felt toward those who attacked us and direct that anger toward the Democrats and the president."

it is vile beyond belief.

Vile beyond belief, to attack people you know won't fight back....

Not necessarily at the hands of Obama, but perhaps coming from a left-of-far-right Republican.

Obama is a left-of-far-right Republican.

The only thing I can say is "they make me sick".

It only took about a nanosecond for Republicans to try to convert 9/11 from a symbol of national unity into a marketing slogan for conservative politics and policies. Before the week was out after the 9/11, the Wall Street Journal was urging Bush to strike while the iron -- and the Trade Center rubble -- was still hot and push for the conservative economic and tax agenda while Democrats were in no position to oppose him.

Then, who can forget how Karl Rove and George Bush scoured the country during the 2002 mid-terms stumping for Republican candidates with the single theme that Democrats don't give a hoot about your safety and only Republicans do. And here we are again with Beck and Republicans trying to exploit a tragedy that we all shared into a taudry play for right wing votes.

I'm not sure either but I think it has something to do with n*ggers in the White House.

Politics aside, I believe Glenn Beck an his crowd are deeply and neurotically frightened and insecure. What are they frightened of? The complexity and uncertainty of everyday life, the fact of suffering and death, a general sense of our own impotence and smallness in the grand scheme of things. In short, they are terrified of the basic nature of human existence. But rather than admit that this far from ideal situation is reality ,and deal with it as well as they can (which is all any of us can do), they try to rationalize their feelings by pretending there are simple ideological solutions to this dilemma.

The Teabaggers are going batshit because there is a black guy in the White House. If GW Bush was proposing exactly the same healthcare reform that Obama is, they would be fine with it.

He he he, I think Obama drew a bigger crowd in Minneapolis than the clowns on the mall.

"Freedom" is just another word for nothing left to lose.

Eat shit and die teabagging losers!

Ellen has a 'Family'. Ellen surely has a smiley face now.

This is all about unity. The only uniting principle of conservatives is hatred of liberals. And since only conservatives are "real Americans", it's uniting all Americans.

QED

Instead of the National Mall shouldn't they be at their local shopping mall? I mean, Bush's advice after the attack was to go shopping. There could be no more fitting tribute to that vacuous little opportunist.

Ellen is really down on the 'Villagers'. That sure is popular in certain circles, popular with the 'Family' and other places too.

Why is Benen so obsessed with Glen Beck? It's pathetic.

Aren't there any serious causes to blog about besides another dreary post about Glenn Beck and teabaggers? Good grief.

"I'm with mcmuff.

My first reaction, and by far my most powerful reaction, to 9/11 was that George Bush would exploit the tragedy for whatever he could get out of it.

And he did. And then some.

Unity? Are you kidding?"

ditto. That first speech he gave after 9-11 I said to myself "We're fucked."

Aren't there any serious causes to blog about besides another dreary post about Glenn Beck and teabaggers? Good grief.

On Saturday, if you post at all, it can only be about deeply un-serious stuff -- hence the Glen Beck post.

Posts on serious causes on a Saturday are forbidden -- they violate one of those inflexible, cumbersome union work rules you always hear about.

Did you ever wonder why Kevin Drum is at Mother Jones now?

Damn Bloggers' Union, is why. They even threatened Drum's cats -- said they were going to feed them to those weasel-thingies of Athenae's.

Ah, a last chance to see the Mall, the Smithsonian, the Capital, the Whitehouse, and wingnuts on parade:

But where are the clowns?
Send in the clowns
Don't bother they're here

So, Beck manages to gather 30.000 crazies, tops?

There's hope.

There was nothing confusing or incoherent about the tea party protests today. The consistent themes were against bigger and more powerful government,high taxes, high spending, high deficits and most of all the corruption that permeates DC. The video of the under cover fake pimp and prostitute at an ACORN tax funded housing unit is a symbol of the vast amount of corruption in DC. It shows ACORN officials trying to help the fake pimp and prostitute get tax payer funds for housing for underage illegal alien prostitutes. Beck used this video to illustrate that the real disease in the US in not swine flu but the vast amount of corruption in DC. Corruption that takes the peoples money and hands it over to criminal organizations like ACORN, Unions, corrupt corporations and lots and lots of overpaid pencil pushing bureaucrats.

Even President Obama admitted there was 500 billion dollars worth of waste, fraud and corruption in Medicare to the point it could be axed out of the budget to help pay for health care reform and not impact health care services to Seniors (lol).

That type of power over the peoples money is just plain scary as who knows whose ox is going to be gored next when it comes to budget cuts. The only thing we know for sure is that the unions, corrupt corporations and bureaucrats won't lose any sleep over whose next when it comes to the budget ax.

Hope that clears things up for you.

"Hope that clears things up for you."

Not really.

"Hope that clears things up for you."

Not really.

Posted by: garnash

No surprise there.

The point of today's protests seems to be to condemn the president, his party, and a progressive economic agenda in general.

Most of these people were ready to let Obama be a president who was a centrist, as he campaigned, except for a few slips like "spread the wealth around." Once his agenda, or rather Nancy Pelosi's, became clear, the taxpayers wanted nothing to do with it or him.

I think you came pretty close to understanding it. You still don't seem to get that Republicans are not behind this. They may benefit if they can get their agenda back to what it was in 1994, the last such uprising, if not, they are not in much better shape.

So the Tea Parties were all about all the waste, fraud and corruption in Washington and the power they have over who gets the money? Well as long as I get mine, I don't care how Washington spends the money. I don't pay any taxes anyhow. Just show me the money.

You don't get it so feel free to be left in the dust.
As for James Poniewozik's take on the 9/12 Rally. Listen, my husband was a New York Fireman on 9/11. Do you know what I was doing on 9/11? I was trying to find out if he and the rest of "The Guys" were alive. I was a lucky wife, my husband was alright, but I know many who couldn't say the same. So James..how many friend's funerals did you go to after 9/11?
While you were home holding your baby, my husband spent every day either digging in the pit looking for his fellow "Brothers and New Yorkers", pulling regular duty or going to funerals. He did that for what seemed like months. He did it for those who would no longer be able to go home and hold their loved ones.
So stop feeling so smug and open your eyes. Many in America don't like the path this country is going in and are standing together to stop it...all the time with either no media coverage or negative bitchy remarks. Just know it doesn't really matter in the end. America will stay on the path that the Founding Fathers started us on, with or without you.

"There was nothing confusing or incoherent about the tea party protests today. The consistent themes were against bigger and more powerful government,high taxes, high spending, high deficits and most of all the corruption that permeates DC"

These protests were conveniently absent during the Big Government/Big Debt/Big Corruption heyday of the Bush years. But that's not because Teabaggers are hyperpartisan Republicans out to score cheap politcal points. There's a good reason for that absence that doesn't do any damage to that so-called consistency, honestly there is, but I can't think of it right now.

I love it when people talk about the "founding fathers". Especially when they're women. You think the "founding fathers" gave two shits about what a woman thought? In the day of the "founding fathers" you wouldn't have had any voice in government, you wouldn't have been able to vote, and you couldn't have even worn pants. You want to go back to the days of the "founding fathers"? Be my guest - you seem to live primarily in the past, so it suits you.

The idea that people "don't like the direction this country is going in" is *more* than correct, however. A fringe group of screaming idiots trying to keep us in the dark ages, hoping to force their love of racism and narrow-mindedness on the rest of the population by showing up to public discussions with guns is *definitely* not the way I want the country to go in. But there will always be people crying about socialism, being led by the nose by those who profit greatly from their ignorance. It's the fact that you actually take *pride* in your ignorance that makes you not only clueless, but dangerous, and I for one will fight you with every bit of energy I have for the rest of my life. So hold your rally, and shake your fist - you're in for one hell of a fight.

There was some Teabagger on tv just now complaining that she 'don't want to be part of any experiment in population control'.

So that's what it's all about.

Million Racist March

Ana, your rhetorical strategy is superficially compelling because of your personal 9/11 story, yet in the end it strikes me as a cheap shot. You leave no room for any meaningful discussion because you don't begin explain how the country's current "path" has strayed from the "founding fathers."

ana: America will stay on the path that the Founding Fathers started us on, with or without you.

win an election...for crissake...

100 - 200 thousand people protest Iraq War in DC

WAPO HEADLINE: Thousands Gather to Protest Iraq War

Less than 30 thousand people protest Big Government in DC

WAPO HEADLINE: Anti-Government Protests Draws Tens of Thousands to D.C.

That was a typo. What Glenn Blecch really wants is to bring back the warm feeling of urinity running down his leg, and the puissant thrill of fear he has at the thought of scary Muslims he thinks want to kill him.

James and Mike K - Having read the thread, I can tell Beck has massaged your ignorance! How does it feel to hate our country? -Kevo

Beck plainly doesn't value unity per se. His current behavior makes it clear that he sometimes values division more highly. If 95% of the country were unified behind liberal Democratic leadership, I doubt Beck would be so celebratory. The fact that the post-9/11 unity was militant, focused on the use of military force against a reviled foreign enemy, may also be a factor. But above all, what Beck wants is for people he disagrees with to shut up, & for everyone to fall in line behind rightwing leaders. This betrays impatience with or incomprehension of the American system of government.

Well I didn't wade through the comments , but the protesters should be accorded the same consideration and publicity we got when protesting the run up to the Iraq war. I just saw NBC news and they were pushing the meme that these were jes' folks .Ordinary 'mericans doin there thing

BULLSHIT

America will stay on the path that the Founding Fathers started us on, with or without you.

The path the founding fathers started us on was one where Native Americans were slaughtered, blacks were enslaved, women were chattel, and the poor were exploited. We've veered from the path thanks to all the people you loathe.

Ana, you need to work on the story line. It helps to get the names of thing right.
It also helps if you wouldn't lecture people.

Kevo, you haven't the first idea of what I or those two million marchers were thinking. Most of them paid their own way. Imagine that !

I guess you could call it "uniting" if you manage to purge the country of everyone you don't like, right? Everyone who is left is united, Q.E.D.

if you can bear to look at the home page of the 9 12 movement you will find it's sponsors listed and there are at least 25. several of those, after research, gave me a severe sinking feeling. they are not about finding peaceful solutions but straight up anarchy with guns, GUNS mind you, involved. the fevered hateful speak i am hearing day in and day out, from people i have known and loved my entire life is absolutely heartbreaking. and i can promise you it almost always about their @@## pocketbooks. somebody is gonna get something they don't deserve blah, blah, blah. no compassion, no empathy for anyone, anything, but themselves. President Obama has never been given a chance. he is still being treated as if he is a candidate and not a person chosen by the majority. these people are praying for him to fail. how is that good for this country?? i can think of nothing worse. and mr. beck who hails himself as a "christian" has: talked of choking the life out of michael moore to watch him die, called the father of the soldier, whose beheading was made public, a scumbag for opposing the war, called 911 survivors and families whiners and said he hates them. he is the greatest evil to our country and it's need for unity that i have ever seen. i am ashamed that he is being held in any regard at all. power and money doth corrupt. he's got them both. God help us all.

Kevo, you haven't the first idea of what I or those two million marchers were thinking. Most of them paid their own way. Imagine that !

Two million your fat, flabby ass! People who were actually THERE and posting actual pictures show that there were about 30K in attendance, 50K tops. And what the fuck are you on about with that 'paid their own way' garbage? They were bussed in by Freedomworks. Dumbass. I pity your patients.

Remember folks, Mike K was the guy who, months ago, thought that capital gains were realized at the time of purchase!!

So....we know that the mental prowess is just not there.

"There was nothing confusing or incoherent about the tea party protests today. The consistent themes were against bigger and more powerful government,high taxes, high spending, high deficits and most of all the corruption that permeates DC."

Hey James, you are proving that you are as ignorant, confused and incoherent as these racists you are defending. If these teabaggers are only protesting against high deficits etc why did they never protest against Reagan and Bush? It was the Republicans trillion dollar tax break for the wealthiest 1% of americans, war against a country that had nothing to do with 9-11, and their political and economic ideology that turned the surplus left behind by Clinton into a multi-trillion dollar deficit and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. Why weren't you or anyone of these teabaggers protesting that? As Dick "the torturer" Cheney said in his defense: "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter".

It is becoming clearer by the day that the real motivation for the Republican base's anger and threats of violence, revolution and secession is something very sinister and base: racial hatred. Your using the video of two corrupt black employees of Acorn as the "symbol" of Washington corruption is proof of the racism and stupidity of your crowd. Funny how you overlook the far more pervasive and deeper corruption of Wall Street, private health insurers and so many others.

Two million your fat, flabby ass! People who were actually THERE and posting actual pictures show that there were about 30K in attendance, 50K tops. And what the fuck are you on about with that 'paid their own way' garbage? They were bussed in by Freedomworks. Dumbass. I pity your patients.

Posted by: LMAO @ Mike K!

You might try ABC News which estimated the crowd at 2 million. Others, especially those who were there, said 1 million. You, of course, know better.

jcricket, you are smoking that bad stuff again.

ABC News never reported crowd size in the millions. Quoting from a current online story at abcnews.go.com:

"Matt Kibbe, president of FreedomWorks, the group that organized the event, said on stage at the rally that ABC News was reporting that 1 million to 1.5 million people were in attendance. At no time did ABC News, or its affiliates, report a number anywhere near as large. ABCNews.com reported an approximate figure of 60,000 to 70,000 protesters, attributed to the Washington, D.C., fire department. In its reports, ABC News Radio described the crowd as "tens of thousands."

So there you have it. Whoever said it was more was putting words in somebody's mouth. Lying, in other words.

over to criminal organizations like ACORN, Unions.

Unions? That really is a stupid comment.

The only people who care how many morons turn up at these stupid rallies are Conservative and Muslim religious extremists.

What a pathetic turnout.

Teabagger after Teabagger is complaining that they are not being listened to. Somebody needs to tell them:

YOU LOST !

You just can't make this stuff up:

TYPICAL TEABAGGER

Kevo, you haven't the first idea of what I or those two million marchers were thinking.
Unfocused rage at a dozen different subjects is not thinking.

Those of us who live in D.C. or New York are the only ones who really have anything to fear from terrorism. Terrorists don't give a shit about small towns in backwoods states; they are irrelevant and not worth the time and effort. Yet somehow these ignorant people have hijacked 9/11 for their own political game.

I went to the protest today in D.C., as I live near there, and I was pretty sickened by what I saw. This wasn't about unification. This was about protesting President Barack Obama. Plain and simple: they hate him with a deep passion. These are not Americans.

I can't help but notice that none of our immigrants from Reason.com, telling us how the "rally" really did have a a point - that "Obamanomics"=bad - are bothering to post on the thread immediately below this one about how gawdawful the Republicans did with the economy for 8 years. Hmmm. Fascinating.

Teabaggers: So fucking dumb. So fucking dishonest.

Never mind the fact that the so-called "unity" only applied to people who didn't look Muslim. I was dating a 25yo Pakistani man at the time. The death threats he and his family received, the random harassment by police officers, and the stares on the street - even in San Francisco - did not exactly make us "feel the unity". Personally, I recall that as a very sad and fearful time - knowing war was coming and knowing that, most likely, there was nothing we could do to prevent it.

I spent 9/11/201, 9/12 and 9/13 trying desperately to locate my friends who lived only6 blocks from Ground Zero. I got news of them on 9/15. They were OK,
There are many of us who didn't like the way the country was going. The Paatriot Act, which allowed the government to look at the books I took out from the library--that allowed the government to break into my house and search it without telling me,, I watched as the government picked up a US Citizen on US Soil, screamin about Dirty bombs--and watched as the charges were quietly dropped but the non-dirty bomber was held in a military brig without being charged.
The 4th Amendment was being violated. Where were you?
I watched as we went to war on trumped up claims--and watched as soldiers were stop-lossed into their third and fourth tours as enlistments went through the floor. I saw 60-year-olds being called up from IRR because nobody was enlisting to supplement those guys.
Where were you?
I watched as the government hysterically intervened in a private medical tragedy and family battle, ham-handedly intervening in a woman's health care who, after she died, was shown to have a brain shrivelled to a quarter its normal size. I watched as the government intervened in a private medical matter like Sherman marching through Georgia.
Where were you?

But here you are now--screaming about the constitution because the government might offer an optional service when youdidn't care that the Fourth Amendment was being violated in front of your face--screaming about having your country back when you sat on your hands to fight the actual battles. You're screaming about government intervention in health care when you stood by and let Terry Schiavo's be rampaged through by the government.
And suddenly the Islamofascists, , and the War of zCivilizations we're fighting against them are not as important than health insurance. Suddenly you'll take up your rifles while sitting on your hands as the military fell apart in Iraq--suddenly wasteful spending matters when you stood by as pallettes of money were dropped from airplanes in Iraq and you said nothing--you scream about ACORN and say not one word aboutan actual private army, Blackwater--screaming about the loss of freedom-maybe--when you said nothing about the President suspending Posse Comitatus and setting up an armed forces unit to be deployed against American citizens--but now are worried about what Barack Obama might do about health insurance.

You didn't give a shit about the Constitution when it as under attack--you sat on your hands when your country needed you.

You're either stupid or evil. Personally, I vote for evil.

This is not just about healthcare, this is not just about Obama. 9/12 was about having a country where our children can be properous and free. This was not about being Republican or Democrat, black, brown, green or blue, Christian, Jew or atheist, old or young, this is about freedoma and limited government. You can call us names all you want, our voices will be heard. This is just the beginning and we know it.
The movement will continue to grow. We all know there is much more work to be done and we are ready and willing.
Can you hear us now?

This is not just about healthcare, this is not just about Obama.

True. You teabaggers can't even agree on what you are protesting about!

9/12 was about having a country where our children can be properous and free.

No, actually, it's not, or you would have had a coherent message that actually had something to do with those things. Nor is Obama doing anything to make you "less prosperous" or "less free." For that, you have to go to George W. Bush.

This was not about being Republican or Democrat, black, brown, green or blue, Christian, Jew or atheist, old or young, this is about freedoma and limited government.

Logical fallacy: appeal to emotion. And actually, yes, it is about being Republican and white, which is why the crowd was what it was.

You can call us names all you want

Nah, we're too busy laughing at your stupidity.

our voices will be heard. This is just the beginning and we know it.

Not really. This was the best you could do and it was pretty underwhelming. You have nowhere to go.

The movement will continue to grow.

Not really. You're too batshit insane to attract many more people than you have thus far.

Can you hear us now?

Dear heart, we've been "hearing you" for months. It's still the same old partisan, nonsensical drivel that it was months ago.

You might try ABC News which estimated the crowd at 2 million.

ROFL.... You gut pwned. Sorry, Mike, but ABC News estimated no such thing. Instead, they reported the far more likely number of 50,000 to 70,000,

Others, especially those who were there, said 1 million. You, of course, know better.

Yup, we do.

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[A]s someone who happened to be in New York City eight years ago today, the implicit premise of the 9-12 Project -- that those who aren't on Beck's side must have somehow "forgotten" 9/11 and its aftermath -- ticks me off royally and personally.

couldn't be that important, pbama didn't go.