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October 2, 2009

OLYMPICS FEVER.... It was barely noticed at the time, but in January 2008, then-President George W. Bush met with the Chicago 2016 Bid Committee and U.S. Olympic Committee members about bringing the 2016 summer games to the city. "They say that the Olympics will come to Chicago if we're fortunate enough to be selected, but really it's coming to America, and I can't think of a better city to represent the United States than Chicago," Bush said.

He added, "This country supports your bid, strongly."

President Obama picked up where his predecessor left off, and even flew to Copenhagen this morning to promote the Chicago bid. The result was disappointing.

The International Olympic Committee delivered a stunning blow to Chicago's bid for the 2016 Olympics, knocking it out of the voting in the first round Friday, leaving Rio de Janeiro and Madrid waiting for the announcement of which city will host the Games. Tokyo was eliminated in the second round.

I.O.C. president Jacques Rogge made the announcement as the first round concluded, a surprisingly early exit, especially because of President Barack Obama's whirlwind trip to boost the bid of his adopted city. Mr. Obama was the first American president to make an in-person appeal for a bid city and first lady Michelle Obama had also come earlier this week to lobby I.O.C. members for votes. Chicago's bid leaders had worked for nearly four years and spent close to $50 million to bring the Summer Olympics to the United States for the first time in 20 years. Chicago had been considered among Olympic insiders as a favorite to win the Games, along with Rio.

"Stunning blow" seems a little strong, but sure, it's good when the United States hosts an Olympics, so today's news was discouraging.

What I find fascinating is the extent to which the far-right was rooting against the country. Eric Erickson published an item declaring: "World Rejects Barack Obama."

Hahahahaha. I thought the world would love us more now that Bush was gone. I thought if we whored ourselves out to our enemies, great things would happen. Apparently not.

So Obama's pimped us to every two bit thug and dictator in the world, made promises to half the Olympic committee, and they did not even kiss him. So much for improving America's standing in the world, Barry O.

Malkin's mocking the U.S. defeat; so is the Weekly Standard. Fox News, which launched an aggressive effort against Chicago's bid, will no doubt follow. (Update: the offices of the Weekly Standard, in its own words, "erupted" in "cheers" after the announcement.)

A year ago, a conservative Republican president told Chicago, "This country supports your bid, strongly." That was then, before the right decided their hatred for the president's hometown was more important than anything else.

Remember, in 2005, when New York was eliminated as a host city for the 2012 Olympics, and liberals everywhere giggled like children and mocked the Bush administration?

Oh wait, that didn't happen.

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These people would cheer if a plague wiped out most of the population, because it would be "Obama's fault!"

Posted by: Speed on October 2, 2009 at 12:43 PM | PERMALINK

If you believe the 'inside' guy posting over at Talking Points Memo, Chicago's bid was hurt a lot because it can be so difficult for foreigners to get into and out of the country. This makes sense to me, as I've known a number of foreigners struggle to get into the country on routine business trips.
Now which president overhauled our immigration procedures?
Boy, I hate blaming that guy for everything.

Posted by: RZ on October 2, 2009 at 12:47 PM | PERMALINK


GOP 2009: Party Over Country...

again...

Posted by: mr. irony on October 2, 2009 at 12:49 PM | PERMALINK

Well, we all know that any disagreements with the President are supposed to end at the water's edge (unless the President happens to be a Democrat, in which case everything is fair game)

Posted by: Equal Opportunity Cynic on October 2, 2009 at 12:54 PM | PERMALINK

Shed no tears on this. The olympics is a huge commercial media spectacle with a small amount of athletics added. There are a lot of better uses for the money than more stadiums, parking lots, and access roads that will see little use after the games are over.

Posted by: Burke on October 2, 2009 at 12:56 PM | PERMALINK

It's perfectly fine to comment on the right's politicization of this issue and its shifting stances based only on scoring points against Obama.

However, another political issue here, much more important to those of us living in Chicago, is the extent to which Chicagoans strongly opposed the bid. The city's revenue projections were, by all outside groups' reckoning, wildly inflated. The Daley-obeisant City Council guaranteed that taxpayers would foot the bill for unfunded portions of the Olympics. Plans to tear up the waterfront, city parks and other public land (much of which -- for just one example, the boat marinas -- provide critical funding for Park District and other city programs that primarily benefit low-income families) were not matched with any post-Olympic planning, and eminent domain was considered a likely possibility to obtain other land.

Mayor Daley is fundamentally incapable of stepping outside of cronyism to ensure that Olympic profits extend past his own plutocracy or that key positions go to competent individuals (one example: he wants Terry Peterson, an epic failure as head of the CHA, to run the CTA, whose infrastructure and service improvements were vital to functioning Olympics). This simply was going to cost ordinary Chicagoans billions while further eroding our city.

The Olympics can be a good thing in a city with honest or marginally honest government. In Chicago, they were going to be an unmitigated disaster. This is not a conservative opinion. This is a strongly prevailing progressive view in a city full of Democrats.

All this doesn't change the fact that the criticism on the right is based on sniping at Obama rather than on genuine concern for the Olympics' economic and social costs, But it's an equally important piece of the politics of this bid, and other progressives who don't live her and may not be aware of it should know about it.

Posted by: shortstop on October 2, 2009 at 12:56 PM | PERMALINK

The detractor's are jerks, but I still think Obama was unwise to put himself front and center on this, given all the other sh_t that is going on right now. Of course, if he had not gone and we were eliminated in the first round, it would have been his 'fault', too, in their opinion, so maybe he is right in just hewing to his own instincts, it's served him pretty well so far. I just hope he has not 'Peter Principled' out at the level of the presidency (reference is to a book, from the 70's or 80's I believe, explaining that management is generally incompentent because people keep getting promoted until they wind up in a job at which they don't perform well, but then they stay in that job.)

Posted by: dcsusie on October 2, 2009 at 12:57 PM | PERMALINK

This is coming from a fringe element of our society. They've managed to consume a political party, but do you really think this non-stop, hate-filled poison being vomited up relentlessly on a daily basis (especially when it gleefully hopes for the nation's failure on every front) strikes a cord with the average citizen? Look at any of these freaky right wing events from teabagger protests to values conferences. These people live in a rotten bubble. They're not part of the mainstream. Frankly, I think we've been subjected to more than enough of them. I'm not sure why every screach and dry heave that comes out of them must be deemed newsworthy.

They're a cancer on our society.

Posted by: SaintZak on October 2, 2009 at 12:57 PM | PERMALINK

Next up on Drudge:

SCARY NEGRO MADE CUBS LOSE!!!!!!
(Pittsburgh 8 - Chicago 2)

Posted by: Aaron on October 2, 2009 at 1:00 PM | PERMALINK

What I find fascinating is the extent to which the far-right was rooting against the country.

Fascinating, yes. Surprising, no. These un-American people are disgusting and have absolutely no shame.

Posted by: electrolite on October 2, 2009 at 1:04 PM | PERMALINK

Gee, you don't suppose that the hyper-politicization and toxic atmosphere of the debate on the right concerning the Chicago Olympic bid might have had any effect on the Olympic Committee vote, do you?

I mean I wouldn't want to suggest that these right wing blowhards might have cost Chicago (and the US) billions of dollars in stimulus money that would benefit the city and the country for years to come. But you gotta consider the consequences of the vitriol, right?

Posted by: majun on October 2, 2009 at 1:04 PM | PERMALINK

So Obama's pimped us to every two bit thug and dictator in the world ...

Leaving aside the fact that Erik can't name a single one ... "pimped"?

Really?

Posted by: JM on October 2, 2009 at 1:09 PM | PERMALINK

THE REPUBLICANS ARE ALSO LAUGHING AS JOBS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN WILL NOT BE. ergo THE REPUBLICANS ARE LAUGHING AS JOBS WERE LOST WHICH WOULD HELP OUT ECONOMY BEFORE , DURING AND AFTER THE OLYMPICS.

Posted by: MLJOHNSTON on October 2, 2009 at 1:10 PM | PERMALINK

SCARY NEGRO MADE CUBS LOSE!!!!!!

Like they need his help to fail, White Sox fan though he is.

Posted by: shortstop on October 2, 2009 at 1:10 PM | PERMALINK

But you gotta consider the consequences of the vitriol, right?

Actually, it is too bad that Chicago lost (beyond the usual reasons), because had the Olympics been held there and a few hundred of these knuckle-dragging "teabagger" morons had showed up to "protest," it may have destroyed the whole movement once and for all, as people who don't normally follow politics or the news would have gotten a good look at these lunatics and said "Enough!"

Posted by: electrolite on October 2, 2009 at 1:11 PM | PERMALINK

I just had the misfortune to check out Michele Malkin's Olympics related columns. Whew! Where exactly is such petty backbiting negativity coming from? Why does Ms. Malkin even have a job spewing this kind of vile baseless invective on a national level? Someone please explain. Apparently the half black guy without a father after he was one year old and who lived a lower to middle class life as a child is just too damn superior, and his black wife from a middle class family shares his same shameless sense of entitlement. WTF??? Anyone?

Posted by: emjayay on October 2, 2009 at 1:12 PM | PERMALINK

Since they don't consider Obama to be a real American, they don't see themselves rooting against America. Simple as that.

Posted by: Tea Bagger Jones on October 2, 2009 at 1:13 PM | PERMALINK

Good for Rio, Brazil, and South America. The Olympics have never been held anywhere on the continent. It's their turn.

Posted by: KTinOhio on October 2, 2009 at 1:17 PM | PERMALINK

no surprise that the wingnuts display their bad conscience ressentiment -- par for the course.

the same childish, arrogant and stoopid mentality as "emergency rooms" -- only significantly less important: nobody dies over the olympic pick...

Posted by: neill on October 2, 2009 at 1:17 PM | PERMALINK

It is with unremittent glee that I applaud the Olympics Committee for rejecting The Chosen One and Chicago. Having an Olympics in the United States could potentially be an advantage to an incumbent president and that is completely unacceptable.

However, it what is really the best news available to Republicans today; the Wall Street Journal has a front page article on Comcast seeking to buy NBC Universal! Comcast, in addition to fighting hard to maintain monopolies in their markets, is dedicated to presenting news in a positive, republican oriented manner.

When they take over management of NBC, we can look forward joyfully to MSNBC getting rid of their unnatural liberal bias. We will be able to kiss goodbye to 'The Ed Show' and to 'Countdown with Keith Olbermann'. Nobody will miss these liberal polemics. The especially good news is that we will be able to see the end of Rachel Maddow. What is especially troubling about her show is the amount of research and knowledge that go into it. Everyone knows that in today's culture, fact is of no importance and keeps getting in the way of belief.

Tomorrow will be a brighter day when we see Comcast convert NBC/MSNBC into another CNN Fox-Lite clone!

Posted by: RepublicanPointOfView on October 2, 2009 at 1:23 PM | PERMALINK

The funny & ironic thing, of course, is that now Lula & Chavez & the other leftist SA gov'ts will get a world-class platform, and a big spotlight will shine on the plight of the Third World poor. Conservatives should have been more careful about what they wished for...

Posted by: Skip Mendler on October 2, 2009 at 1:24 PM | PERMALINK

First, you'll recall that prominent members of the GOP condemned Obama from traveling to Copenhagen to lobby for Chicago's Olympics bid. Now that Chicago lost out to Rio- a very good choice for a host city, incidentally- you can bet that many, if not all, of thse same GOP figures will condemn Obama for not lobbying hard enough for Chicago's bid.

As for Rio, it's about time for a South American city to play host to the games. But the GOP figures who condemned Chicago's crime rate in comparison to Rio have no idea what they're talking about (big surprise, I know). Rio is generally seen as being an *extremely* crime-ridden city. Most crime is centered in the slums which ring the city, but crime not infrequently makes its way to more well-off portions of the city. I'll be interested to see how Rio handles this; will it simply paint over the problem, much as Beijing did w/its stifling air pollution, or will it make real efforts to address the underlying poverty.

The smart money's on the cover-up.

-Z

Posted by: Zorro on October 2, 2009 at 1:28 PM | PERMALINK

Good point, wonderful comments!

The country to which the right-wing is so attached is pre-WWII America, when black people (not what they were called by the "patriots"' forebears) were appreciated only for their unique talents (Jessie Owens) & otherwise forced to mind "their place." When I was a little kid (a looong time ago), I once asked my father why white people (which is what my dad & I are) didn't like black people (what we called them) & he said, "Because the rednecks are so low they think the only way to feel up is to put somebody else down." I guess that's still about right for the vestiges of hateful times.

Those who root against this country are rooting against its present & its potential, & their only "patriotic heroes" are those whom promise to make us one giant anachronistic failure. Ultimately, the right will lose, but not without slinging the last arrows in their quiver of hateful nostalgia.

The Constant Weader at www.RealityChex.com

Posted by: Marie Burns on October 2, 2009 at 1:32 PM | PERMALINK

The reason the left did not "point and giggle" when "Bush" did not get theh NY Olympics was because it was not a "story." The press had not built up HUGE EXPECTATION that Bush "would not be denied."

But it's nice to see that, even now, you'll blame this on Bush. You should be blaming the media, they're the ones who created the expectation.

Posted by: Willa on October 2, 2009 at 1:33 PM | PERMALINK

Most crime is centered in the slums which ring the city, but crime not infrequently makes its way to more well-off portions of the city

Actually, an interesting thing about Rio's favelas is that they don't just ring the city but are frequently interspersed among wealthier neighborhoods throughout the metropolis. The changes from block to block can be quite dramatic.

Posted by: shortstop on October 2, 2009 at 1:33 PM | PERMALINK

Isn't this kind of like when liberals were openly rooting against the USA in the Iraq war? Let's see, Conservatives root against Chicago cronyism and Liberals root against US Soldiers..... which is worse?

Posted by: Gatrios on October 2, 2009 at 1:34 PM | PERMALINK

But it's nice to see that, even now, you'll blame this on Bush. You should be blaming the media, they're the ones who created the expectation.

And I'll bet you think the media is liberal, bless your little heart.

Posted by: shortstop on October 2, 2009 at 1:34 PM | PERMALINK

Sorry to post twice, but I just checked out Drudge, who sure enough, decided to prove Steve's point with this headline: "The Ego Has Landed; World Rejects Obama: Chicago Out in First Round."

Posted by: Marie Burns on October 2, 2009 at 1:40 PM | PERMALINK

i thought the world was suppose to love us by now.

Posted by: ron on October 2, 2009 at 1:41 PM | PERMALINK

A good descriptive headline:

Right-wingers cheer corrupt IOC as it punishes US for forcing them to start down the path to reform

Posted by: freelunch on October 2, 2009 at 1:43 PM | PERMALINK

Weekly Standard's John McCormack:

As a citizen of the world who believes that No one nation can or should try to dominate another nation, I'm glad that the Obama White House's jingoist rhetoric and attempt to pay back Chicago cronies at the expense of undermining our relationships with our allies failed.

Totally agree. When did Republicans ever use jingoistic rhetoric or try to dominate the rest of the world? Unlike Obama, they also recognize the importance of cozying up to leftist South American governments like Brazil's by stepping aside and giving them what they want.

BTW, the link for "jingoistic rhetoric" doesn't have any Obama quotes in it, it's just a HuffPo article about Michael Steele criticizing Obama's decision to go to Copenhagen. And needless to say, his "cronies" link provides no evidence that he was repaying anyone in Chicago, or even that Brazil is upset that he took exactly the same steps their president did to try to get the games, it's just wild speculation from Michael Goldfarb, the most incompetent campaign spokesman of all time. And the link about "dominating other nations" goes to a transcript of his speech to the UN, which I thought was supposed to have been an act of submission to the rest of the world, not domination.

Posted by: ibid on October 2, 2009 at 1:43 PM | PERMALINK

"Isn't this kind of like when liberals were openly rooting against the USA in the Iraq war?"

No, because it never happened. We were against the war itself, not the soldiers who were sent to fight it.

Posted by: KTinOhio on October 2, 2009 at 1:43 PM | PERMALINK

A pointed response to Gatrios...

I personally do not give a fuck whether Chicago got the 2012 Olympics or not.

As a veteran of a long ago misbegotten war based on lies in southeast Asia, I was completely opposed to Bush's war on Iraq - long before he actually started the invasion. I left a couple pieces of my body in Viet Nam and believe that I have proven my 'patriotism' beyond the shadow of any armchair warrior's right to call it into being.

When you say/imply that being opposed to Bush's Iraq invasion was rooting against US Soldiers, you display complete ignorance and a level of brainwashing beyond belief. My full response to you is that you should go Cheney yourself! Then take your rethugnican troll ass elsewhere.

Posted by: AngryOldVet on October 2, 2009 at 1:44 PM | PERMALINK

Gatrios,

You know that liberals did not root against American soldiers.

Posted by: freelunch on October 2, 2009 at 1:46 PM | PERMALINK

A response to AngryOldVet:

You are just a 25 year old liberal loser whose only combat experience is on a Playstation.

Go fuck yourself you lying piece of shit.

Posted by: Gatrios on October 2, 2009 at 1:48 PM | PERMALINK

A response to freelunch:

YES. THEY. DID.

Posted by: Gatrios on October 2, 2009 at 1:49 PM | PERMALINK

I'm kinda glad, in a curmudgeonly way, that we didn't get The Games.

I remember when the Olympics were strictly for amateur sportsmen. Some Indian athlete (now known as "Native Americans") lost his medal, because he earned a couple of dollars playing semi-pro baseball one summer.

Now we have the NBA fielding a team, Tiger Woods golfing, and 'sports' like synchronized swimming and ice dancing. . .

Oh, and how in the world do you spend $50 million bidding for the games? Must have been really, REALLY nice gift baskets. . .

Posted by: DAY on October 2, 2009 at 1:51 PM | PERMALINK

Where in the world did you get the idea that Bush was a conservative (on some social issues, but certainly not all)? He is a Progressive Republican.

In his defense, Bush would not have demeaned the Presidency by campaigning in person for the Olympics.

Obama supporters really need to look at where money has gone - Wall Street, Banks, GM, unions and we loaned (money we had to borrow) several billion to a Brazilian oil co. (stockholder George Soros) and $500 mil to Finnish car co. (stockholder Al Gore). No money and no help for small businesses which are responsible for 70%+ of jobs. That is the reason we see continued unemployment. This administration cares nothing for anyone who can't substantially contribute to campaigns.

Posted by: trinket59 on October 2, 2009 at 1:54 PM | PERMALINK

Gatrios,

You are a despicable mockery of human life.

Grow up. Stop lying.

No doubt you will feel the desire to prove yourself even more despicable. That is your choice. When I do not respond to you, remember it is because it would make more sense for me talk to mold.

Posted by: freelunch on October 2, 2009 at 1:54 PM | PERMALINK

Following the rules: Must ignore the troll. Don't feed the troll... I break my fingers and only type, "IOKIRAR" 500 times...

Posted by: sduffys on October 2, 2009 at 1:56 PM | PERMALINK

Isn't this kind of like when liberals were openly rooting against the USA in the Iraq war?

Posted by: Gatrios on October 2, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Hmmm, that's funny... I seem to remember millions of people (rightfully) protesting a foolish, politically motivated decision by a criminal administration to illegally invade a soveriegn nation. Since then, the "war" -- started by conservatives -- has cost hundreds of thousands of lives, wasted billions of dollars and practically destabilized the entire U.S. military, all for absolutely nothing. Now who is it that's "against" the U.S. again?

Posted by: electrolite on October 2, 2009 at 1:58 PM | PERMALINK

a response to electrolite:

So you did root against US soldiers. You should talk to "AngryOldVet" he'll set you straight

Posted by: Gatrios on October 2, 2009 at 2:00 PM | PERMALINK

The Olympics will do to Rio's poor what hasn't been accomplished in other ways and it's the same thing that was done to the poor in Beijing.

As for Chicago, I'm in agreement with shortstop and I'd add that the private money put up for it was never going to come close to the actual cost, which would have been borne by the taxpayers. I really don't see what difference there is, in terms of who really benefits, between hosting the Olympics and having a professional sports team -- it certainly isn't most of the people who happen to live there.

Posted by: VaLiberal on October 2, 2009 at 2:04 PM | PERMALINK

I used to like the Olympics when I was a kid, and the Internet has once again made it somewhat palatable. Last summer, I watched all the medal fencing bouts on line, ditto for diving.

But the commercialism of most of it has overtaken the original concept, and the reason for that is pretty obvious: no city wants to go broke paying for it. So to me, it just seems like the time for the Olympics has come and gone.

Spain hosted the summer olympics as recently as 1992, and Atlanta hosted in 1996 (and L.A. in 1984). It does seem like Brazil should have the opportunity. I hope it makes the most of it.

Posted by: Barbara on October 2, 2009 at 2:04 PM | PERMALINK

Gatrios,
How is it possible to root against soldiers that hadn't even been sent to fight yet? And -- let me take a wild guess here -- I'd bet a good amount of money that somehow you never found your way down to a recruiting office.

Posted by: electrolite on October 2, 2009 at 2:06 PM | PERMALINK

Remember, in 2005, when New York was eliminated as a host city for the 2012 Olympics, and liberals everywhere giggled like children and mocked the Bush administration?

Oh wait, that didn't happen.

Which begs the question of whether conservatives are remiss now for mocking Obama or whether liberals were remiss then for having failed to mock Bush.

Posted by: McGuff on October 2, 2009 at 2:07 PM | PERMALINK

Rio wins!

I was rooting for them after the thirty seconds of thought I gave it while driving home yesterday.

South America never having had a games.
A large city in beautiful surroundings with lots of experience mounting a major public event (carnival).
Purely selfishly: a good time zone for me to watch on TV.

I figure both the US and Spain have had the Olympics fairly recently and Chicago is already getting some kind of boost from Obama's presidency.

Posted by: JeffF on October 2, 2009 at 2:08 PM | PERMALINK

In his defense, Bush would not have demeaned the Presidency by campaigning in person for the Olympics.

Right you are. He was too busy demeaning it by starting an illegal war based on total lies that killed 100,000+, dismantling the Constitution, fucking up the world economy, waging war against science, destroying the environment, letting a major city drown, ignoring the tens of thousands who die from lack of healthcare every year, and making a goddamned fool of himself every time he opened his ill-informed, clinically stupid, smirking piehole.

When would he have time to promote America when his Outlook calendar was so packed with sessions of destroying it?

Posted by: Tom K on October 2, 2009 at 2:10 PM | PERMALINK

Gatrios=America hating piece of filth. You definitely don't qualify as a human being. Crawl back with the rest of your filth at Free Republic and your American-hating festivities.
There you can worship your America-hating, Constitution-shredding, drafting avoiding, criminal scumbag heroes like Bush and Cheney.
AOV has more decency, humanity, and patriotism in one of his bowel movements than the lot of you filth combined.
FOAD

Signed,

Truth

Posted by: Truth on October 2, 2009 at 2:11 PM | PERMALINK

Last summer, I watched all the medal fencing bouts on line

...which is the only way you can see them! I love fencing and it used to really annoy me that I never got to see the Olympics fencing.

Posted by: shortstop on October 2, 2009 at 2:12 PM | PERMALINK

"...to bring the Summer Olympics to the United States for the first time in 20 years"

Remember about that little thing they had in Atlanta in 98?

Posted by: Fact Checker on October 2, 2009 at 2:13 PM | PERMALINK

Remember about that little thing they had in Atlanta in 98?

Actually, it was in 96, and by 2016 that would make it 20 years.

Less ignorant fact-checkers, please. Moron.

Posted by: Truth on October 2, 2009 at 2:19 PM | PERMALINK

Uh, Fact Checker (ironic name!) the Atlanta Olympics were in 1996. 2016 is 20 years AFTER 1996.

Posted by: Joe on October 2, 2009 at 2:22 PM | PERMALINK

GOP 2009: Party Over Country...

It's good when properly-oriented cadres understand and apply the theoretically correct revolutionary solution to an actually-existing problem.

All organs of the State, even the State itself, exist to serve the Party, because the Party is the Vanguard of the Revolution, and the State is fated to wither away.

All power to the Soviets of preachers and bond salesmen!

Posted by: Davis X. Machina on October 2, 2009 at 2:29 PM | PERMALINK

Gatrios: Excuse me while I confess to what I really am.........simply a used Repgiglican piece of shit paper .......that is my sole purpose in life .. to be the personal shit paper of Repiglicans .....

Posted by: Gatrios on October 2, 2009 at 2:37 PM | PERMALINK

fuck ..forgot admit too that I just love the smell of repiglican shit in the morning .. or anytime really ..........

Posted by: Gatrios, on October 2, 2009 at 2:40 PM | PERMALINK

I heard a rumor that David Letterman raped and murdered a non-male staff member in 1990.

Posted by: Gatrios on October 2, 2009 at 2:44 PM | PERMALINK

Gatrios:

Questions have been raised about your citizenship. Can I see your birth certificate? Long form, please.

If you don't have something to hide, you should not mind this patriotic request.

-Bokonon

Posted by: Bokonon on October 2, 2009 at 2:46 PM | PERMALINK

I'm rooting for Brazil. South America deserves an Olympics.

Posted by: Ohioan on October 2, 2009 at 2:46 PM | PERMALINK

How far is it from Rio to Paraguay?

Posted by: Anonymous on October 2, 2009 at 2:46 PM | PERMALINK

Gatrios: You are a piece of garbage not worthy of the effort to bury you. Better that your fetid stink be exposed to all so you may be shunned for the filth that you spew.

May we see your recruiting documents and honorable discharge from some military service? Your only discharge is likely from you anus.

rot in hell!

Posted by: vietvet68 on October 2, 2009 at 2:47 PM | PERMALINK

'Remember, in 2005, when New York was eliminated as a host city for the 2012 Olympics, and liberals everywhere giggled like children and mocked the Bush administration?

Oh wait, that didn't happen.'

Of course it didn't happen because NYC is as liberal as it gets and most of the folks here in the area wanted no part of the Olympics. Nice try, though.

Of course half of Chicago didn't want the Olympics either.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/33088182/ns/sports-olympic_sports/

Posted by: JWF on October 2, 2009 at 2:49 PM | PERMALINK

I heard a rumor that David Letterman raped and murdered a non-male staff member in 1990.

Posted by: Gatrios on October 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM | PERMALINK

Less ignorant fact-checkers, please. Moron.
Posted by: Truth

Isn't that a paid position? There must be thousands of better educated, more qualified and extremely willing candidates. Move some in.

Posted by: Anonymous on October 2, 2009 at 2:52 PM | PERMALINK

WHAT? Gatrios s**t and had babies? It is showing up all over the place.

Posted by: vietvet68 on October 2, 2009 at 2:52 PM | PERMALINK

Was Bush personally stumping for the US finalist in Denmark, along with Laura. What if he had, and the US city was actually Houston? Yeah, no belly-laughs and "Awesome! Bush looks like a fool on the world stage" comments would have been ensuing?

I need a machete to cut through the hypocrisy!

Posted by: Craig on October 2, 2009 at 2:57 PM | PERMALINK

Well, yes, of course. The right still clings to an extreme form of American Exceptualism: if we don't win, there must have been some chicanery by our enemies. And they have enemies on all sides.

Posted by: BongoBob on October 2, 2009 at 3:05 PM | PERMALINK

Limbaugh was positively giddy over the fact that Chicago lost. He explicitly said (paraphrasing) that he's for anything that makes Obama look bad.

Posted by: Daryl Cobranchi on October 2, 2009 at 3:08 PM | PERMALINK

I had to ponder a while to decide whether to or if to respond to Gatrios.

First, I learned long ago that the difference between ignorance and stupidity is that ignorance can be cured. I extend my sympathies to Gatrios for his permanent condition.

"A response to AngryOldVet:

You are just a 25 year old liberal loser whose only combat experience is on a Playstation.

Go fuck yourself you lying piece of shit.

Posted by: Gatrios on October 2, 2009 at 1:48 PM"

I would accept being a loser if only my wildest dreams of being 25 again would be realized. I was born in 1948, drafted in 1968, and ended up with over 10 years in the U.S. Army. 22 months of that was in the Republic of South Viet Nam. If you can find someone old enough and who was in Viet Nam, ask them to explain to you what Thai Stick was and then you will know where I am coming from.

I go back in what is now called IT so far that I started back in the punched cards days. Get someone a bit older to explain to you what those were.

As far as the "only combat experience is on a Playstation", I was not infantry. I spent 2 months as a door gunner on a Huey and saw and participated in only limited direct combat. I never said otherwise. Believe it or not, infantry were not the only persons to receive combat wounds and purple hearts. I suspect that you were one of the purple heart bandage wearers who mocked John Kerry's purple hearts.

The Playstation comment also misses the mark. I find today's computer games mostly great graphics and no thought process involved - not my taste. I suspect all graphics and no thought works well for you.

If you desire further proof of my veteran's status, please send me your name and address. I would not waste the time or effort to spit in your face, but I have a number of vet friends who would enjoy stomping the crap out of you.


Posted by: AngryOldVet on October 2, 2009 at 3:10 PM | PERMALINK

liberals didn't giggle because they don't behave like children as conservatives do.

Exhibit A: Gatrios.

Exhibit B: Ron:i thought the world was suppose to love us by now.


But it's nice to see that, even now, you'll blame this on Bush.

funny, I didn't see a blaming of Bush. Steve, simply points out that Bush and presumably the GOP/wingnuts were for the Chicago Olympics before they were against them. I wonder what changed?

Posted by: ckelly on October 2, 2009 at 3:13 PM | PERMALINK

"only combat experience is on a Playstation",

Gatrios is projecting again.

Posted by: ckelly on October 2, 2009 at 3:17 PM | PERMALINK

What I find fascinating is the extent to which the far-right was rooting against the country.

Next up...far right launches crusade attacking baseball and apple pie.

Posted by: ckelly on October 2, 2009 at 3:22 PM | PERMALINK

AOV, that guy isn't worth a single millimeter of change in blood pressure, he really isn't.

Posted by: SRW1 on October 2, 2009 at 3:24 PM | PERMALINK

I heard a rumor that David Letterman raped and murdered a non-male staff member in 1990.

Response to AngryFakeVet:

Bring it on:
700 S. Tustin St.
Orange, CA 92866

Posted by: Gatrios on October 2, 2009 at 3:24 PM | PERMALINK

AOV: I actually know where that address is and live within a few miles. Want me to drive by and see where it lives?

I, too, was in Nam in 1968, for the whole year. You speak truth!

Peace, Brother

Posted by: vietvet68 on October 2, 2009 at 3:30 PM | PERMALINK


Gee, imagine that- the POTUS who is in charge of the most anti-American regime in American history goes around the world and tells everyone who will listen how America really, really sucks (and he is really, really sorry for all of our past, present and future sins) and the IOC rejects the USA for the games? go figure!!!

Posted by: t on October 2, 2009 at 3:36 PM | PERMALINK

Well, it's quite obvious that Benen doesn't bother reading comments, or he would have picked up on the fact that Chicago progressives were overwhelmingly opposed to the Olympics in Chicago, as were 84% of the general Chicago population.

We all dodged a bullet there. As Andy Shaw of the BGA noted, it was only during the Q&A session at Copenhagen that it was first revealed that all the contracts have already been secretly negotiated behind closed doors -- no open bidding -- not in Chicago.

Now we have the chance to take some of those billions of tax-payer dollars and instead of tearing up parks to build temporary stadiums and shutting down south-side hospitals for private condo dev, we can put some money into the schools and providing a sustainable infrastructure.

Benen, you're a useless partisan hack. Turn over your megaphone to someone who takes the time to learn about an issue.

Posted by: Disputo on October 2, 2009 at 3:37 PM | PERMALINK

The difference is Bush and his wife didn't fly halfway around the world on two different planes that taxpayers paid for. Pull your head out of your stinky hole!!!!!!

Posted by: phil on October 2, 2009 at 3:39 PM | PERMALINK

Planned Parenthood

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=700+S.+Tustin+St.+Orange%2C+CA+92866&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

Posted by: RobertSeattle on October 2, 2009 at 3:42 PM | PERMALINK

vietvet68: I call bullshit on you as well brother


I heard a rumor that David Letterman raped and murdered a non-male staff member in 1990.

Posted by: Gatrios on October 2, 2009 at 3:43 PM | PERMALINK

Two yrs from now, when Obama decides to attack Iran, or NKor, or whatever target looks ripe atm, no doubt Glen Beck and the other wingnuts will be railing against it, and Steve Benen and all the other fair-weather pseudo progs will be rooting for it.

It's pathetic to set your clock by a stopped-clock.

Posted by: Disputo on October 2, 2009 at 3:46 PM | PERMALINK

Gatrios, you are the typical rightwing coward.

That address is of the Planned Parenthood.

What a pathetic loser. But that is what the rightwing is made up of these days. Really tragic.

Posted by: Ben on October 2, 2009 at 3:47 PM | PERMALINK

Gman: 700 s. tustin looks to be under a freeway bridge. Better WII reception there?

peace, brother

Posted by: vietvet68 on October 2, 2009 at 3:47 PM | PERMALINK

To those who are harping about tax payer money gone into the trips to Copenhagen. Where was your outrage when we lost billions of dollars (literally) in the Iraq war? Cold hard cash was handed out as bribes, and unaccountablly spent. And we are talking about BILLIONS of dolalrs.

So to those fake 'fiscal conservatives' bitching about Airforce one expenses. Just shut up.

Posted by: Ben on October 2, 2009 at 3:51 PM | PERMALINK

", we can put some money into the schools and providing a sustainable infrastructure."

Or maybe you can just buy back your parking meters? I mean, Chicago finances are a disaster, aren't they?

Posted by: a on October 2, 2009 at 3:53 PM | PERMALINK

You are right, Ben. I also looked up the PP location in Orange, CA. Perhaps Gatrios was seeking abortion services for his unwanted life!

Posted by: vietvet68 on October 2, 2009 at 3:55 PM | PERMALINK

Gatrios, your parents should have consulted with planned parenthood before they squeezed out such a miserable piece of shit like you.

Posted by: jP on October 2, 2009 at 4:04 PM | PERMALINK

Re-Gatrios Planned Parenthood addy-

Wow imagine that-a conservative caught lying-again.

Posted by: RC on October 2, 2009 at 4:07 PM | PERMALINK

Hey.... I am not impressed by some of the threadjerks in this comment thread.

In case you've forgotten...STICK to the topic and quit your petty "poster flogging."

Let's face it, watching Beach volley ball in Rio makes more sense than on the beaches of Chicago.

Posted by: Tom Nicholson on October 2, 2009 at 4:09 PM | PERMALINK

Or maybe you can just buy back your parking meters? I mean, Chicago finances are a disaster, aren't they?

Finally, someone has been paying attention.

And you bring up another reason why losing the Olympics was a good thing for Chicago -- the Olympics would have become just another opportunity for Daley to continue selling off public property to his cronies.

Posted by: Disputo on October 2, 2009 at 4:38 PM | PERMALINK

I say put the Olympic committee out of business. The summer games should be held permanently in Greece, and Greece alone.

The winter games? Pick a few venues, and rotate the location on a regular basis- like the PGA does with the US Open.

Posted by: JW on October 2, 2009 at 4:53 PM | PERMALINK

I am astonished that Obama would have flown to Copenhagen without the skids having been greased. Why take the risk of embarrassment? For what?

Sometimes the little stuff can tell you as much as the big stuff. This one tells me that Team Obama ain't exactly the political heavyweights they've portrayed themselves to be. Between this and the ongoing health care disaster, I'm wondering what the hell they CAN get done.

Posted by: Magic Dog on October 2, 2009 at 5:00 PM | PERMALINK

Pretty epic thread, all in all. I think I will be ignoring trolls for some time to come. Wow!

Posted by: Bob M on October 2, 2009 at 5:04 PM | PERMALINK

The summer games should be held permanently in Greece, and Greece alone. -- JW, @16:53

And nekkid; don't forget nekkid. Males only, too. Mike K would loooove it :) And where do you get the winter Olympics from? Not traditional at all.

Me, I think Olympics ought to be allowed only if all the participating countries agreed to suspend all wars, for the duration. Time to cool off and diplomacy in a relaxed, non-gory atmosphere was the original intent behind the games, after all...

Posted by: exlibra on October 2, 2009 at 6:01 PM | PERMALINK

I like your idea, exlibra, of no warring nation may participate/attend. As I recall, many of the Soviet and Eastern Block nations used the military as the training ground for Olympic athletes. That was their "job". We, in the pure U.S.A., have our corporations hire the athletes and then allow them to train as their job. I think this was a way around the "professional" athlete prohibition. Now, of course, we just use professional athletes in many of the "team" events. I don't even know how they distinguish professional from amateur anymore. Skiers are like NASCAR advertising billboards. Are there any rules?

just had to get this off my chest. don't expect any replies.

Posted by: st john on October 2, 2009 at 6:35 PM | PERMALINK

More Thai sticks, less trolls!

Like all professional sports, the Olympics is just too corporate to really care about all that much.

Posted by: Scandalito on October 2, 2009 at 6:50 PM | PERMALINK

is/are whatever

Posted by: scandalito on October 2, 2009 at 6:51 PM | PERMALINK

It's a shame we lost the Olympics, but I'm pretty happy for Rio. I think South America deserves a turn.
What I don't understand is how this equates the collapse of the Obama administration. I'm glad he gave it a shot. We didn't get it. Oh well. Better luck next time.
How is this a victory for the Right?

Posted by: LMarathon on October 2, 2009 at 7:08 PM | PERMALINK

...and Chicago is already getting some kind of boost from Obama's presidency.
Posted by: JeffF on October 2, 2009

Yeah, I was considering moving there this winter.

Posted by: Larry on October 3, 2009 at 4:53 AM | PERMALINK

We Republicans are only concerned about the possibility that slumlord Valerie Jarrett would get a third chance to sip at the public trough for her Grove Parc holdings.

As for President Bush's support for the Chicago bid, would you have expected the opposite to come out of his mouth? What we Republicans would have been agast at would have been had he flown to Copenhagen to risk his national prestige (regardless of his uplifting words otherwise) on a bid by a city (not a State or the United States) to hold the Olympics.

Chicago's loss in the first round is indeed a loss for Obama, but only because he chose to make it so. Obama could have been Presidential, and stayed above the fray; instead he chose to go into it -- and came out with a bloody nose.

It's often been said that the Daly Machine is corrupt, and the IOC is corrupt. What we have just seen is what happens when amateurs at corruptness face true masters. Daly's guys didn't offer a big enough piece of the action to the IOC, and they paid the price.

Posted by: unclesmrgol on October 3, 2009 at 10:29 AM | PERMALINK

Now which president overhauled our immigration procedures?
Boy, I hate blaming that guy for everything.
Posted by: RZ

The Olympics were to be held in 2016 you idiot. That would give Obama 7 years to do any fixes he deemed necessary to our visa, immigration procedures. However, any terror bombers that might slip in during this "stand down" would be his responsibility. Would the Olympics be worth it?

Posted by: lsbrew on October 3, 2009 at 10:00 PM | PERMALINK

Letterman is fine; he never was the Family Values type. Yes, he probably cheated on his girlfriend now wife. But at least he does go around claiming he is Mr. Family Values like some of our politicians (can you just see the grin on all Fake News reporters/commentators). This has been a tough summer, for Dave, for our economy but at least he did not end up on the Republican 2009 Summer of Love list: Assemblyman, Michael D. Duvall (CA), Senator John Ensign (NV), Senator Paul Stanley (TN), Governor Mark Stanford (SC), Board of Ed Chair, and Kristin Maguire AKA Bridget Keeney (SC).

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