misogyny pure and simple. there is a lot of hate in oklahoma, as proved by their rather insanely hateful political reps. but this law is about as blatant an example of misogyny as any in western 'civilization' since ancient Greece.

It appears that the Taliban has taken taken control of the government in Oklahoma.

Watch for the closing of the schools next. . .

In other parts of the civilized world there's a legal duty to keep medical records secret.

Doesn't that exist in the USA?

Not taking a position on abortion one way or another my question is "How does this not violate federal privacy laws (HIPAA, etc)?

If ever there were a website for 4chan to DDoS the shit out of, this one is it.

I'd say it's virtually certain that this Oklahoma state law violates the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), which contains very strong rules about protecting what it calls Protected Health Information, or PHI. The intent is to protect individual privacy from disclosure of health care statistics or information, even if the disclosure is well-intentioned. PHI specifically says you can't specify in public information an in individual patient's residence below the state level. You also cannot identify the service a patient receives, the specific date the patient receives the health care service. Intentional release of PHI without patient consent is a federal civil rights violation. Attorneys, get to work.

Just another note. Before it was passed, HIPAA was known as the "Kennedy-Kassebaum" bill, for Sens. Ted Kennedy and Nancy Kassebaum (R-Kansas). If Oklahoma gets slapped down for this, we can again thank Ted Kennedy for his wisdom and foresight.

Out of curiosity, is one of those 37 questions, who the father of the aborted fetus is? or how about listing the names all the males the female has ever had sex with? Hey Oklahoma, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, no?

I'd say it's virtually certain that this Oklahoma state law violates the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA)

This is pure symbolic politics, even if HIPAA is violated, the data is never collected, and the website never goes on line.

There will be a lawsuit, and everyone connected with the plaintiff, the state of Oklahoma, will get another entry for their wingnut resume, as well as awards of the Order of Reagan, Second Class, for all. The litigation will fill the newspapers, making sure the issue is never far from public view. Every politician in the state will be called upon for comment.

If they hit the jackpot, the case -- actual implementation of the law stayed the whole while, but who cares, since the law's actual working is not the point -- will work its way up the appellate ladder, landing in the Supreme Court right around the time of some election or other.

I have no use for what these hateful lunatics are doing, but their technique is impeccable.

Wow.

I did not know this, but apparently in Oklahoma you can get pregnant without the help of a man. It is not necessary to publish the various private details of the potential father.

That's an interesting level of misogyny they've got going there.

Why do American men hate women?

Could someone explain the phrase "4chan to DDoS the shit out of it"? I'm just curious.

EXACTLY LMA @ 10:36

Not only that but a complete credit history to go along with that method of payment financial information.

And it seems appropriate to revoke drivers licenses, library cards, trash credit histories etc. The solution is to move out of the state to keep OK clean and pure.

In issue that never gets discussed when the topic of abortion is brought up is how would the character of our country change if we decided to initiate a blanket prohibition against abortion, knowing that the realites of life are such that millions of women and their partners would still seek them out for a whole variety of reasons.

Isn't it true that if we were really serious about outlawing abortion that we would have to create a Department of Conception or some such thing that would require anyone who is pregnant to register with the government and have their pregnancy monitored by government agents or their representataives until that pregnancy was brought to term to ensure compliance with the law.

How we treat unwanted pregnancy is important theologically, ethically, and philosophically. It is, in short, an important subject for education and efforts at moral persuasion -- missionary work. But to use the government to restrict it will change the very nature of the government itself. An authoritarian code of personal conduct that aims to regulate individual behavior at this intimate level, requires an authoritarian state to enforce it. The real issue here, as evidenced by what Oklahoma is proposing, isn't really abortion at all. It is whether we want to live in a police state.

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@ Davis X. Machina: Actually the plaintiff will likely be a doctor who would be compelled to violate HIPAA by this law.

Some of the questions identify if the woman having the abortion is a state employee! While the intent of the law may be multifunctional, it looks to me like it's largely a huge data mining operation designed to provide statistical ammo for future, unspecified anti-choice battles. It states several times that the data is to be gathered without identifying information, but that seems to be unrealistic. I don't know how any Republican legislator in OK can complain with a straight face after this that health care reform is a government takeover of health care!
I propose that someone create a website detailing and posting the private lives of all the legislators responsible for this monstrosity. Dig deep and make it public.

And why isn't a man's vasectomy subject to the same law? Oh yeh, women are cattle owned by men in Oklahoma. I say let the OK state join with Texas and form their own country. We don't need these dangerous hate mongers involved in our lawmaking.

If you live in Oklahoma, you are an ignoramus.

That's all there is to it.

If you live in Oklahoma, you are an ignoramus.

That's all there is to it.

Right, because there's no such thing as a majority and a minority, and every thing an insane Oklahoma winger does is endorsed by every single other Oklahoman without exception.

The report says the patient will be "prompted" to answer questions. Suppose she answers "None of your business"? Then what?

Somebody needs to write another book, this one called "What's the Matter with Oklahoma?" Some very strange news has been coming out of that benighted backwater this past year. Sally Kern, a well known wingnut in the state legislature and a John Birch stalwart, introduced a bill blaming the nation's economic problems on sexual debauchery. Last summer the OKC-based Hobby Lobby company published full page ad's all over the U.S. proclaiming this "A Christian Nation" thus not only insulting the patriotism of millions of Americans but choosing Independence Day to do so, a particularly nice touch. Now this.

We can only hope for the day when the Industrialized West has freed itself from its dependency on fossil fuels so that primitive but oil-rich desert strongholds like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Texas and Oklahoma can sink back into the obscurity they deserve.

Has there ever been a society on this planet that works so diligently to punish its citizens for something that is LEGAL???

Just curious - are there any penalties in the law for submitting false information? I'd say that any and all doctors required to submit the info should simply submit as a matter of civil disobedience, a fictional patient. Hester Prynne, perhaps, residing in Salem, Massachusetts.

This gave me a great idea for helping keep the community safe, and lower the risk of STDs:

Post online all information on men who have been diagnosed with a sexually transmitted disease.

The list should include their name, their address and phone number, their marital status, their occupation, their diagnosis (including any previous diagnoses), the names of all the people they have had sex with, and if applicable, how they paid for the sex.

I was born in Oklahoma and left as soon as I could (i.e. late 1970s). The place was always severely reactionary but just seems to get worse every year. For the record, however, I have a number of friends, liberal activists, who have chosen to stay there. They're not stupid. I left, but theyve chosen to stand and fight, against daunting odds. I admire them.

As I've said in the past...I recently moved back home to Missouri after spending 2 years working in Oklahoma. I have never met a more uneducated, dirt-poor, stubborn, ignorant people in all my life. Not all ae like that, but unfortunately, the majority are.

You have to remember...they (Oklahomans) are the self-described buckle of the Bible belt...and the Republicants milk that for all it's worth.

Keep in mind too...Oklahoma leads the nation in teen pregnancies, alcoholism and % of population that is incarcerated.

Any wonder they want to throw more people in jail?

”In other parts of the civilized world there's a legal duty to keep medical records secret.
Doesn't that exist in the USA?”

Sure, its called the HIPPA Act here
But we have the IOKIYR principle as the supreme law of the land that out ranks laws passed by congress and even the US Constitution itself

It seems to me that the gist of the legislation is that it is using the OK government to mine data, not for public health reasons, but primarily to assist and advance religious/social conservative activism. That has to be a huge legal problem.

Are all southerners nutty assholes ?

Davis X. Machina says: There will be a lawsuit, and everyone connected with the plaintiff, the state of Oklahoma, will get another entry for their wingnut resume, as well as awards of the Order of Reagan, Second Class, for all.

This!
And it's just a monumental waste of resources for pro-choice orgs to have to take this crap to court.

I am 100% certain this bill flagrantly violates HIPAA and will never be enacted. Not a chance. These rednecks overplayed their hand.

Are all southerners nutty assholes ? -- rbe1, @14:58

Nope; we have some fruity ones, as well. We also have a variety of pricks and other bodily parts, all very healthy (nuts an fruits category; get at least 6 servings a day).

You mean you don't have any where you're at? You don't know what you're missing, bubele. The best stuff sinks to the bottom of the melting pot...

A part of my wardrobe got removed in haste, @16:45

It is dreadful but also highly unlikely to stand up to legal challenges.
I suppose a simpler way of saying "not your business" will be the likelihood that the answers will be minimalist: "first abortion, unemployed, whatever..." Women do know what they are doing and I think something this onerous just helps them to focus and support each other!

A similar questionnaire will shortly be developed for impotence:

Very well, sir, and how will you be paying for your implant today? Please fill out section 14.

Thank you.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnd... POST!

What do you expect from an Okie? But is there any reason that anyone has to tell the truth? I don't see how the government can require that if they don't give something in return, like paying for the abortion. And if they put a clause at the bottom stating that the information is true, just run a line through it before sending it to the state.

Perhaps Timothy McVeigh had a point.

This may actually cause a bit of a backlash. I say that because this law affects middle-class women as well as poor women. For the most part, anti-abortion laws are crafted to not make life too difficult for the kind of people who make campaign contributions. Remember when South Dakota passed an anti-abortion law and it got overturned via referendum? Maybe that will happen in OK.

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