I think if you kick a teabagger in the teeth, there's someone else getting the worse end of that deal...

sorry. had to be done.

So *that's* why wingnuts go on about fluoridated water.

I hope everyone Sen. Hatch kicks in a teeth has decent insurance coverage.

Yeah, you'd have to kick the teabagger in the tooth, not teeth.

Long ago I called Hatch The Great Fulminator. He is always sounding off in high dudgeon with no regard to the facts.

"What do you suppose the reaction would be if Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said he found the Teabaggers to be "scurrilous" and intended to kick them in the teeth?"

I for one would applaud it. I think that's how Democrats should respond to this right wing onslaught.

Steve, you might be reaching on this one as far as tit for tat. No doubt MoveOn.org is not out to "smear" Orrin Hatch so he's way out of line there. All they need to do is keep presenting the truth and have him answer to the people.
I frankly don't care about reaction to one Repub or one Dem if such and such said this or that. Just stick to the facts, stick to the facts, stick to the facts...when faced with these truths, there's nowhere to hide.
Keep up the good work MoveOn.com

Someone needs to tell Hatch that being a member of a politically active group such as MoveOn.org does not disallow you from participating in protests against corrupt politicians. His ad hominem attacks against the group and principled liberals like Soros are the weakest kind of defense...but all this political hack has left in his bag of tricks.

i wonder if orrin is considered moderate by the vast tribes of mormon and other fundie enders all over utah and the western us...

he's gotta demonize both soros and moveon in order to keep the snarling beasts happy. the age-old linking of the two is probably as done-deal sunk in to these batshit crazy utahans that hatch was using it as a throwaway line.

there's a part of me that thinks idiots like orrin hatch are doing their best to keep the crazies from just goin' blood bath nuts on all of us...

http://hatch.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Offices.Contact

As one of Senator Hatch's "constituents", I recommend you contact him as I did. If you'd like a local zip code to use, mine is 84108. We live in one of the wealthier areas in town, so he will probably notice that particular zip code.

Orin Hatch is a dispicable, dishonest, disingenuous, douchebag.

You mean kick a teabagger in the "tooth", don't you (If you can find one).

Orrin is just proselytizing like the good Mormon church taught him to do. I mean, what better way for a Brigham Young grad to introduce Mormonism to people, than to portray Jesus as the "turn the other cheek, so I can kick those teeth out as well" kind of guy?

Hatch probably doesn't consider anyone in Utah affiliated with MoveOn.org as really even a citizen, let alone a constituent.

@qwerty

Oh, I'm a nutcake, all right! Orrin told me so himself! :-)

last time i checked george soros was a capitalist...seems like an odd choice for a boogyman....for some reason the gop thinks saying "soros" will get people running for the hills.....i suspect most people say "george who?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarianism

In roleplaying situations, authoritarians tend to seek dominance over others by being competitive and destructive instead of cooperative. In a study by Altemeyer, 68 authoritarians played a three hour simulation of the earth's future entitled the Global change game. Unlike a comparison game played by individuals with low RWA scores, which resulted in world peace and widespread international cooperation, the simulation by authoritarians became highly militarized and eventually entered the stage of nuclear war. By the end of the high RWA game, the entire population of the earth was declared dead.[18]

Now consider that the majority of the population of Utah has sworn allegiance to a conformist, right-wing authoritarian hierarchy adamantly oppoed to social equality for women, LGBTs, poor people, and people of color, and you understand Orrin Hatch and his constituents a little better.

"Kicking in the teeth" is just a figure of speech, albeit a rather crass one. And it was directed against an organization, not a person. And by a really old man. Who cares?

You might rather focus on the "broad base of financial support he receives", including tens of thousands from BlueCross/BlueShield, Pfizer, et al.

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=Career&cid=N00009869&type=I

What do you suppose the reaction would be if Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said... intended to kick them in the teeth?

I believe most of the teabaggers would simply remove their teeth and put them elsewhere for safekeeping.

Steve -- are you trying to mirror the Republican's reflexive media panty-bunching? It's boring and kind of stupid. Any time you finish a post with, "Imagine if a Democrat had said X!" you're basically saying, "This really isn't that bad, but by the Republican's hyper-sensitive standards it is a veritable apocolypse that deserves 24-hour news coverage over a 3-week period."

Lame. There's enough kooky Republican house members saying really dangerously offensive things to keep us busy without stretching Hatch's comments.

I wish Hatch would kick me in my teeth. Then I could sue his scurrilous ass, and get some dental work I need done. I can't afford to see a dentist now. In fact, I think I will e-mail him right now and tell him that.

Orrin just got his magic underwear in a twist.

yeah, I'm with inkadu. A very, very old man said some words that were barely provocative and suggestive of violence. It's not "the most important" part of this story. You couldn't get a bus driver to even look up if that was happening directly behind him.

On the other hand, if Orrin heads on down to their office and flings his dentures at the receptionist, then let's roll some film on that.

People should stick up for Soros. Even though he's a sterotypical billionaire currency trader with a thick accent, he's done a lot of good with his money, which he earned and didn't inherit, and as far as I know he has never used political donations to advance his own interests. He played a significant role in the collapse of the Soviet empire.

Contrast Scaife, Forbes, Koch, Murdoch, Moon, and the Republican sugar daddies. Two of those guys are borderline mentally ill (Moon doesn't think he's Jesus, he thinks that he replaces Jesus), and Forbes, Koch and Scaife inherited their fortunes.

Did Andrea Mitchell just leave it there"?

What do you suppose the reaction would be if Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said he found the Teabaggers to be "scurrilous" and intended to kick them in the teeth?

Do any of the Teabaggers have enough teeth to kick them in?

Has anyone compiled a list of the Republican comments, which if said by a Democrat, would have (and have) caused a huge outcry on the part of the Republicans? Seems like there are at least one or two every day, so the list would be long.

Looks like MoveOn told the truth about Hatch, and it sounded like an insult to him.

Honestly, if telling the truth about you is insulting to you, Sen. Hatch, then maybe you should look in the mirror for the solution to those feelings of revulsion.

Orrin is off his meds again. Free Healthcare doesn't help if you don't take your meds, Orrin.

What do you suppose the reaction would be if Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said he found the Teabaggers to be "scurrilous" and intended to kick them in the teeth?

You'd have to find one with teeth, for starters.

That's nearly as difficult as finding one who isn't married to his/her sibling or 1st cousin.

Ooooo, careful Orrin, you'll drop your purse.

What do you suppose the reaction would be if Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said...[that he]... intended to kick them in the teeth? I'd be awfully tempted to ask for his address so I could send him a pair of steel-toed boots. But that would be releasing my inner Republican.

Teabagging is safer with no teeth, at least for the recipient. Orrin Hatch is freaking out, good job moveon!

What makes me saddest is that Orrin Hatch is, under no circumstances, an idiot. If you heard the eulogy that he gave for Ted Kennedy, you'd know that to be true.

And since he's not an idiot, the only other option left is that he's selfish and evil. Truly sad to see someone so obviously intelligent, be so overtly vile.

Orrin Hatch -- the finest senator that money can buy.

I assume he's not literally threatening violence against anyone, but this kind of rhetoric really is over the top.

Steve, you really do get the vapors over every little turn of phrase. The other day you were in a dither about a rather routine version of the Untergang meme, and now you're upset about this statement.

Yes, you assume he's not literally threatening violence. As would anyone with half a brain! Why? For one thing thing, he's referring to "the teeth" of MoveOn.org, so for him to be speaking literally, he'd have to kick every member of MoveOn.org in the teeth. Secondly, he's not Chuck Norris. He's 75. I doubt he could even get his foot up that high.

Really, you sound ridiculous when you flagellate like this. Stick to the key issues (like Hatch's ridiculous MoveOn = Soros and Soros = radical formulations) and give the civility policing a rest.

give the civility policing a rest

The irony of piously recommending that someone "give the civility policing a rest" evidently escapes the commentor . . .

LOL, that is too funny trying to claim the Nazi helper George Soros is not behind moveon.org. I think you need to go back and try again on that one.

Soros was just a kid when the Nazis were in power, how much could he have "helped" them?

On top of Soros being a child at the time, isn't he jewish?
p.s. kabookey--the onus is on you to provide proof of his support, otherwise you got nothin. Lo-ser.

[...] the Nazi helper George Soros -- kabookey, @ 21:29

You must have had paterfamilias Preston Bush in mind, not Soros... Understandable mistake, from someone of your side; y'all just "don't do" things like science, history, geography etc (that's "et cetera", which means "and so on"), do you?

As a former constituent of Orrin Hatch's, I can confirm that he is a douchenozzle.

Bucky
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WELL !!!

"...if Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said he found the Teabaggers to be "scurrilous" and intended to kick them in the teeth?"

...I'd ask if he wanted any help from me.

If you kicked a Teabagger in the teeth, that would castrate her brother.

Though MoveOn is not funded by Soros, this "Soros is the evil one" for spending some money on liberal causes in general should be shut down, and done so very simply. Soros has been involved mostly in the last 5 years and spent best I can figure, maybe 20 million in 2004. Now on the other hand you have a man, Sun Myung Moon, who has stated his desire to end "American style democracy," conned thousands of young people out of their lives using deception and has a stated goal of Korea playing the lead role in the world. He wants Korea to be number one.

Moon has spent billions propping up the communist dictatorship of North Korea going back to at least 1991. Moon helped NK with their cash problems, allowing NK to spend on keeping their nuke program going.

Moon has outspent ANYONE, let me repeat, ANYONE funding the conservative movement, the rise of the reality free theocratic authoritarian right. Though comparing Moon to Soros is beyond ludicrous,(Moon makes Soros look like a no count cheapskate as far as funding goes) it does show how out of touch with who they are, and how they got here, today's right is. It shows how grossly uninformed they are.

Moon is the right's number one sugar daddy and frankly, it isn't close if you look. BILLIONS.

BTW, Soros is a citizen.

So non-citizen, Moon, according to former members and Moon's own daughter in in law, smuggles shopping bags full of cash from overseas into the USA to fund and mold the minds of the right. The cash is mostly from Japan where the Unification Church has been guilty of swindling hundreds of millions - likely billions - of dollars from the citizens of Japan, literally targeting widows with their scams and he used that money empower today's right, to mold their minds.

What does Hatch do?

In 1984 he gave Moon a platform in the form of a hearing to claim he was persecuted when he cheated on his taxes. Though the case did have some serious legal issues, the fact that Moon cheated on his taxes was well established. Moon was caught red handed and also has a history of ignoring our laws.

Throughout his shilling for Moon, Hatch claimed he was not "friends" with Moon.

Well, look at how Hatch introduced Mrs. Messiah Moon in 1993 when she gave a talk in the Dirksen building, with Moon in the front row. She talked about how she and her husband were the messiah here to save America because we can't make it without their "messianic" help. This was also the event which led to congress passing a national holiday honoring Moon and his wife, "Parent's Day." Thank Dan Burton for that one, he did the leg work. Most of congress had no clue about the real meaning of the holiday and it was signed into law. Again, thank Republican Dan Burton for that.

See Hatch shill for Moon's messianic mission - he is introducing Mrs. Messiah here.

Below is what the very conservative first editor of Moon's Washington Times, James Whelan, said about Hatch's "friend's" organization - the one that molded today's right's minds:

http://tinyurl.com/yqqbmz

"They (the Moonies) are subverting our political system. They're doing it through front organizations--most of them disguised--and through their funding of independent organizations--through the placement of volunteers in the inner sanctums of hard-pressed organizations. In every instance--in every instance--those who attend their conferences, those who accept their money or their volunteers, delude themselves that there is no loss of virtue because the Moonies have not proselytized. That misses the central, crucial point: the Moonies are a political movement in religious clothing. Moon seeks power, not the salvation of souls. To achieve that, he needs religious fanatics as his palace guard and shock troops. But more importantly, he needs secular conscripts--seduced by money, free trips, free services, seemingly endless bounty and booty--in order to give him respectability and, with it, that image of influence which translates as power."

...This republican man wanting to kick some one
in the teeth he needs he better think about it
twice and then forget it any time he wants to try it on me i'd be happy to let him try ..