Did anyone he knows die? Probably not. Therefore, he doesn't care.

Mr. Kyl is also the same senator who said that maternity care is an "extra" to him because he's a man and doesn't need it. (Which led to one of the better snarks of the year by Sen. Debbie Stabenow who replied, "Your mom probably did.")

He's completely unaware of his surroundings.

Every time someone gets on his soapbox and starts prattling on about how health care reform is just too too TOO expensive to be borne, I'd like to see them called out for their votes for war spending, including the trillion we could really use right now that they pissed away in Iraq alone.

Kyl also very famously declared earlier this year that a majority of those uninsured were twenty-somethings making over $75,000/year who deliberately choose to not spend their money on insurance.

On it's face the idea is offensive and preposterous - one look at average income per age group shows that very few in that age group make that kind of money - and one would then have to assume that everyone in that age group who makes that kind of money specifically refuses to get insurance (and I would argue the opposite - those in that age group who make that kind of money - law grads, etc, will routinely get very nice insurance packages from their employers).

Basically Kul sees it as his job to attack the idea that high rates of uninsured people is a problem - it's like saying that people are poor because they want to be poor. Disgusting.

Kyle doesn't have a lick of intelligence. Either that or he's bankrupt morally. Either way his constituents are the big losers. I still think a suspension of ALL of these idoit's health benefits for one year (starting right now with the threat of flu season) would result in the passage of an unbelieveable health care bill. Nauseating...

hey another week and more Repugnant lies chipping away at the Dims and Obama -- health care, the economy. What's up next?

this is the bad movie we have been living in for months in the simulated reality of political life in Murika brought to you by big corporate media. if it keeps up it will lead to a 2010 Repugnant wave. boy, wont that be just great? i expect it to keep up, you?

And Kyles campaign contributions from the HMO's and big Pharma were exactly how much? No mystery here, bought and sold like a vast majority of the "opposers"

Every 12 minutes, a few measures of 'the Funeral March' (you know: dumm dumm da dum daa da dum da dum da dummm) should ring out on the floor of the House and the Senate. Remind the people in Congress that there is, in fact, urgency to get health coverage reform passed.

Of course, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi won't do that. It would hurt the Republicans' feelings and upset the sense of bipartisanship in Congress.

When Repubs talk about healthcare being delivered in the "best and most efficient way" what they mean is "profitable." This is why there is no negotiating with them. Efficiency means profit, not health. Anything that undermines the profit is inefficient, and therefore must be opposed.

Most people die because all people die. Name me one person who hasn't died or won't die. All obamacare will do is enable the government to set up death panels to euthanize seniors.

"Apparently, he hasn't seen it."

Or maybe he just does not give a shit about working people - like Al the troll.

Kyl's constituents seem to like their two senators enough to keep re-electing them.

better Als please

Apparently, he hasn't seen it (the Harvard report).

Apparently, David Gregory hasn't either. For some reason, even when these hosts ask provocatitive questions, they don't know enough about the subject to refute the nonsense answers.

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Or maybe he just does not give a shit about working people - like Al the troll.

Al is a deliberate parody of the conservative point of view. Unfortunately, the conservatives have wandered so far from a grasp of reality and a sense of humanity that sometimes his attempts at ridiculousness are more reasonable than what we hear from Republican "policy experts".

The Road of Life is peppered with Inconvienient Truths. It takes an Expert Driver like Senator Kyl to avoid them.

Don't try this at home.

Obamacare will bankrupt the nation and dramatically lower the standard of living for every American; we'll all be living in one vast, coast-to-coast Calcutta with most of our children suffering from malnutrition and seniors never getting past age 65 (which is how Obama will "help" keep the skyrocketing costs of Medicare down).

Under such a frightening scenario, we'll have far more deaths every 12 minutes, guaranteed.

It's pretty clear from what pops up in comments everywhere that the new wingnut talking point in response to this statistic is to declare that this number is just people who didn't have insurance who died, and pretend that it's just impossible to say why they died. And everybody dies, so you can't use that as an argument that we should do something.

Such dividends from being selectively anti-science and reason! It's not just for tobacco and global warming any more!

It isn't insurance that cures illnesses, it's health care. The insurance CEOs want everyone to be required to buy insurance, but what we need is just for everyone to have access to needed health care.

Incidentally, I believe the man's proper style and title is Senate Minority Whip Faster Jon Kyl Kyl Kyl.

Respect, comity, and bipartisanship, mkay?

I trust Kyl's opponent will understand how to use this come time for the next election?

1. I wish, when Kyl brought up the Afghanistan war and our need to win it, that Gregory had been smart enough to ask Kyl why it had such a low priority under the Bush/Cheney administration, when, maybe, we could have won it!

2. Jon Kyl has a "license plate" name. Could his parents have found an even shorter name?

All Federal employees including J. Kyl and his ilk enjoy health care paid for by American taxpayers. All Americans should enjoy health care. It is a moral issues. Kyl does not have morals as he proclaims Republicanism

Under such a frightening scenario, we'll have far more deaths every 12 minutes, guaranteed.

The following frightening scenario was brought to you by the fevered mind of "urban matrix". We now rejoin reality, already in progress...

Let me put this as gently as I can:
Rethugs and the people who vote for them are only concerned about the unborn and themselves. People dying in/from war is "necessary" and "glorious", people dying from lack of medical attention, well that's their own fault for being sick and uninsured. "So where is the problem?"

Just in case Urban Matrix person isn't just a parody troll, or for anyone who stumbled into this blog and think UM is on to something....have you checked out all those other countries in the world that are comparable to the US but have universal health care (all of them) and have health outcomes that are generally as good or better than ours while spending about half to 3/4 lower percentages of their GDP's, which are generally lower than ours to begin with? Sorry for stating the obvious, but actually that is just what I would have liked to point out to all the teabagger types that have been clogging the news with their absurd and uninformed healthcare related claims for the past few months. Oh - and I don't know if there ever was a real Al, but I actually did sort of enjoy some of the Al comments in the past. Kind of like admiring in a way the completely wrong but clever and ultimately successful OJ defense.

So you can trust the government to keep us safe from external threats, but you can't trust it to keep us healthy?

Why is that?

Senator Kyl is also holding up extending unemployment benefits. Needs to "look at it more." What an asshole!

Under such a frightening scenario, we'll have far more deaths every 12 minutes, guaranteed.

Don't you just love self-fisking trolls? Who post such obviously stupid arguments that all you need to do is point and laugh?

That was some hilarious shit, UM. Keep 'em coming.

Al. Is that all ya got? Just lob one in and run? Better trolls please.

Kyl's quote is, "I'm not sure that it's a fact that more and more people die because they don't have health insurance; but because they don't have health insurance, the care is not delivered in the best and most efficient way."

Ok, I can logically deduce that if an individual receives care that is not delivered in the 'best and most efficient way' that the patient is more likely to die as direct result of the current illness, correct? So therefore, by replacing just one phrase in Kyl's statement, I can then reduce it to this, "It's not a fact that more and more people die because they don't have insurance. It is a fact that because people don't have insurance, more and more people die."

Really? Is this the level to which our public discourse has fallen? A middle-school debate team could reduce this guys logic to shambles.

Martin hit the nail on the head earlier with his observation that the word 'effecient' has nothing to do with care but rather profit. Bingo!