Could we get a graph of the poll, please? The American people are in need of a simple visual as to their likes and dislikes, rather than all those words and numbers... thank you very much...

The most frigging thing about this entire fiasco over health care reform is that our legislators and our media think it's an ENTERTAINMENT for their benefit alone. This is beyond serious for REAL PEOPLE and yet they play it like a game! AND, we sit by whining and complaining and keep all of them right where they are! Believe me if Reid thinks "Joe is the least of his problems" it's because he knows he has tons more! I probably won't live to see the day when their behaviors are generated by the actual needs of THE PEOPLE...

Asked specifically if it is "important" to give American consumers "a choice" between "a public plan administered by the federal government and a private plan for their health insurance," a combined 72% said it was either "extremely" important (45%) or "quite" important (27%).

When one googles "fierce urgency of now," this is what they should read.

* 63% believe the economic problems the White House is dealing with were inherited from the Bush era. That's down from 72% in June, but it's still quite high.

Let me get this straight, 37% of Americans "believe" the White House did not inherit the current economic situation? WTF? Are there really that many mind numbingly stupid amnesiacs in this country? Because we have a serious shortage of medical facilities if that's the case.

For all the progressive obsession with the public option and its popularity, though, polls have persistently shown the public to be on balance *opposed* to current proposals since well before the town-hall circus. Doesn't this merit a red flag? What's going on there? Is it the individual mandate? Is it concern among seniors that the proposed medicare cuts will be passed on to them? I worry that "success" in health-care reform may yet blow up in our faces, and for reasons quite apart from the public option.

51%, huh? Yeah, no way he's going to need his liberal base with numbers like that!

All of us are watching the cost of health care spiral ever upwards.

Yet there are voices that want to dither, delay, obfuscate and dismantle any sort of meaningful reform, regardless of the political cost, or the lives lost to mounting debt, denial of care, etc.

When Wall Street was at it's precipice last year, our legislators acted with alarming speed, and yet we see little real reform in the financial sector.

Don't buy the argument that a public option costs too much. We can't afford not to.

Without real reform, all of us will see our wages diminish as more and more and more of our bucks go to the insanity that is
health insurance.

To many, the "current economic situation" now includes the ill-advised bank bailout, falling home prices, rising defaults, and increasing unemployment. Like it or not, as the weeks go by, this is BHO's economy.

And his political stand against further stimulus is a very, very risky bet.

David, it will. That's why most of us want a public option. We know full well a $5000 fine won't actually end rescission, Obama is basically just flat-out lying when he claims his bill will end rescission. We know that there is no actual guaranteed issue in this bill either. Basically, we know this bill doesn't do anything but force people to buy health insurance. It doesn't even really offer subsidies, it offers tax credits. This will be a massively unpopular bill.

With a public option, at least there will be a program that it will be easy to force Congress to open up once the failure of this reform bill becomes obvious to everyone else.

'Scuse me, Econobuzz, but the "ill-advised bank bailout" -- TARP -- was passed on Dubya's watch.

43% approve of the president's handling of health care

Those numbers are low because many progressives are unhappy Obama is negotiating away good policy and getting nothing in return. Once he signs healthcare reform into law in the Rose Garden, his numbers will skyrocket.

SqueakyRat: Please don't become upset when trolls let perceptions get in the way of facts. They operate on the premise "believing causes seeing" instead of the other way 'round. They only see what they believe they'll see.

I stumbled on an interesting comparison the other day
It was a proportion of spending !
European spending on healthcare !
Bad old , old European oldies
only spend half of what we spend on healthcare
With arguably better results . Ha !
Declare war ?
War on , Poverty , Drugs , Immigration
Now a war on stupid comparisons with stupid OLD smelly Europe

Perhaps interesting overstates the stumble
Let me think ....
Crazy ?
But for the bright shiny narrators
I might get lost in simple facts staring from fixed places
There to see for anyone
Aside from those so blind
They think paying twice the price for half the product
can possibly be beat (such fantasy !)
The bright shiny guarantee brought to you by the pockets of
from those who price healthcare 2x higher
Than dirty old fogey , yucky old Europe
Special thanks to
Joe (mentum , Non compos) Lieberman for protecting my innocence

I suspect that the GOP's numbers are worse now than they were under Bush because now people realize that they're all idiots, and he was just the Idiot-in-Chief. The Dems aren't doing much better right now, however. . .

"In a bit of a surprise, support for sending additional U.S. troops to Afghanistan has gone up.'.

Unsurprisingly, support for the reinstitution of a military draft remains at low ebb.

steve: "On the generic ballot test, respondents favored a Democratic candidate over a GOP candidate, 46% to 38%. A month ago, the margin was only three points in Dems' favor."

over at pollster the lead is still three points, but that's because they include rasmussen in the average. throw them out and the average dem lead is 8.

another thought: since the democratic brand is poison among southern whites, the average is a bit misleading. i estimate that if the generic ballot was a tie, outside the south the democrats would have a double digit lead.

We are getting close! We need to continue to push for real reform! Found out today that people aren't really going to get the coverage they need until 2014! Can this be? Not acceptable, let's speak up to rev up the action on this! http://cli.gs/BMABst

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