What does Jenna Bush think about it? What does Chelsea Clinton think about it? How about Al Gore's daughters and Amy Carter? What does Tricia Nixon think about it? Did Dan Quayle have a daughter? What does she think about it?

Sheesh. Why anyone gives this idiot air time is beyond me.

To be somewhat fair to Liz Cheney (I pray I never say that again), it doesn't matter if "most of the vent was closed to the media." All it takes is one reporter and/or one photographer to document the event, and it can be reported - and discussed - everywhere. Just because it's not the entire White House Press Pool doesn't mean that the entire media didn't pick up on it.

Going back to doing the right thing, which is calling all the Cheneys douche bags, I guess the new right-wing meme is that Bush did all sort of WONDERFUL things when no one in the media was around to cover it. In fact, Bush caught bin Laden and killed him hisself, but we don't know it. Why? No cameras. He also solved the budget crisis and removed all the weapons of mass destruction from Iraq when we weren't looking.

There's a special ring in Hell reserved for the Cheneys, forced to play charades with Hitler, Saddam Hussein & Vlad the Impaler without an interpreter.

He has unveiled the truth. And they would have wanted to be honored too, just as they wanted to be coming home from Vietnam, where the caskets were never hidden. The open access then (esp. to the jounalists), along with Walter Cronkite's death toll count every week was as instrumental for the eventual sentiment that ended *that* war as all of the war protests combined.

Just more complaints du jour. It won't end.

it is quite pathetic what this young woman is wiling to say to the mainstream media...

all to normalize the indecency and monstrous behavior of her father (gdhs-fsth)...

The wormy, rotten apple doesn't fall far from the warped, twisted tree.

The only thing that surprises me is that this wingnut reaction took this long and that (so far)only one slimeball has takem this road.

The worst possible thing I can find to say about Obama's attendance that is that it reminds people that war isn't about flashy graphics but about young men and women coming home in boxes.

Maybe it's a subtle way to show the indecency of neoclan "surge" cheerleading.

Actually, what's surprising is how pathetic Liz Cheney's sense of decency has become.

Even more surprising is the idea that you thought she ever had a sense of decency. Obama wakes up in the morning; Cheney attacks. It's automatic.

Obama has more class and integrity in his left foot than does the whole Cheney clan.
And I can't believe I'm beating Niel to this, but:
Goddamn Dick and Liz Cheney's shit filled souls to hell.

A small contingent of media at Dover with Obama? Try two dozen. Can you say, "Lights, cameras, action!" Of course David Axelrod can.

From ABC News:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/10/military-families-visiting-dover-statistics.html

"Last night, there were 24 media representatives at Dover from 14 news agencies."

Most of the event was closed to the media because the other 17 families didn't want their loved ones to be exploited by Obama and the media.

President Bush didn't used to "do it without the cameras"; President Bush didn't used to do it all.

Rush just reported that he did (based on Cheney's comment no doubt) so he must have.

And to think Liz Cheney and Barack Obama are cousins. The woman has no sense of family.

Cold-blooded.

Who says you can't take the pulse of reptiles?
Cue the food fight music...

"Fox News Radio's John Gibson Show" is some of the purest right-wing fraudcasting.

Do the Cheney's ever, EVER come out from under the rock to do anything other than complain, whine, undermine, criticize, or chide?

Talk about the Party of No, they are the Family of No. Political discourse is more than pointing the finger at another and carping.

I am soooooo sick of them.

If Lizzie is such a patriot, then she should do the right thing and enlist. What a sorry piece of trash.

In Bizarro Bush World, where the Cheneys still live, it's unpatriotic to honor the fallen by reading their names on the air, unpatriotic to show their flag-draped caskets returning, and unpatriotic for the President to attend their funerals or show any display of respect for them.

What IS patriotic? Pretending that the war is going quickly, easily and bloodlessly, no matter what the evidence to the contrary, and hoping that your believing that will make it true.

The American people deserve to see their Commander In Chief honoring fallen troops in a time of war. I'm sorry right-wingers have a problem with that.

And no president in history used soldiers as props more than George W. Bush, so please spare us the faux outrage.

clonus @ 12:20 p.m. --
since it's halloween weekend, perhaps we could hold a seance and see what alice roosevelt longworth has to say about it, too.

Didn't Ronald Reagan go to Dover to be there when the dead Marines were brought back from Lebanon in 1983? Didn't he do it in the daytime with Nancy at his side and the entire White House press corps with live coverage?

Where was Liz Cheney then? In her Borg alcove regenerating?

The Cheney clan is rude! Poor Liz, what will she do when her last name becomes synonymous with dastardly deeds done by derelictic miscreants! Yes, Liz will be very uncomfortable when she hears an anonymous voice in the crowd say something like, "Oh Cheney, I forgot my luggage," or "Cheney Off and die!" or What the Cheney do you think you're doing (abbreviated as WTC).

I do have a place in my heart that will empathize with poor ol'Liz when she realizes her name is a common epithet hurled insultingly among the disgruntled, and even among good upstanding citizens, here in America well into the forseeable future! -Kevo

Let's face it, her Father shoots people in the face and gets them to apologize for it on television the next day! Little (minded) Lizzy didn't fall far from the tree!

@ mellowjohn: Not that far-fetched. You can request the aid of Nancy Reagan. She's a bit of an expert here!

Again, you progressives fail to understand the basics.

To honor our fallen war veterans, the appropriate method is to ignore them and pretend that deaths did not happen. To honor those who have served and been wounded the appropriate method is to let the VA hospitals fall into disrepair. To honor those who served and returned without physical wounds, the appropriate method is to ignore them and pretend that no physical wounds means that everything is A-Ok with them.

"Liz Cheney's contemptible sleaze" could be the name of a torture-based computer game.

"contemptible sleaze" could be the name of an '80's heavy metal band.

I have to wonder is 1 why Cheney thinks anyone cares what she thinks and 2 why the media think anyone cares what she thinks.

Liz Cheney is a piece of shit. The sooner the devil claims her, the better.

What I want to know is: Who's the poor bastard (an intern, mayhaps?) who had to count the Acorn references on Fox and Friends.

Give him/her a raise. Or just a biiiig drink.

Liz Cheney is a vile piece of human garbage, a veritable pustule on the ass crack of society.

Stop calling her Cheney, as in your header. She's Liz Cheney. Cheney is her father. They're now equally contemptible, but Liz Cheney is insignificant and contemptible. Her father is significant, and contemptible. There's a big difference.

Re an article on DU today, the right wing is apparently on a master plan to defund the democratic party and the attacks on acorn are just a part of it. Therefore we must all work on getting acorn funded again as they bring out the vote for democrats.

Another funny piece of trivia today - the Dick Cheney family own Picassos, but hide them to protect the grandchildren!!!!!! Ha

Where is Mary the Lesbian Daughter/Sister and out of wedlock Mother in all of this? Doesn't this family stick together in all their opinions? Where is the "news media" in tracking down her opinions? They afraid she may have something else to say? What of her "partner/co-parent?" We are missing so much here. We report, you decide.
/semi-snark/

Kristin,

What exactly is Obama exploiting? As far as I could tell by the coverage, it was about the fallen, not the president.

It's not like this is the first a president in the television era was shown honoring Americans who made the ultimate sacrifice.

And lastly, that ABC article you linked was rather interesting, because it stated:

"Their (the military families') presence reflects another change that occurred when the Pentagon lifted the ban on media coverage at Dover this past April, the Pentagon would now pay for the travel and lodging for families that chose to be on hand when their loved ones returned to Dover."

So not only can we Americans see the return of our fallen men and women, but their families can be there when they come back to the States.

Sounds like an obligation to these families that's been long-overdue.

http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/30/attention-bush-apologists-reagan-greeted-fallen-americans-at-an-air-force-base-idiots/

Actually, Kristin, the Bush administration actually went out of their way to prevent families from even accessing Dover or permitting them from viewing the returning caskets of their loved ones. Talk about classless behavior.
Bush also didn't want pictures taken because he didn't want anyone to be reminded of the human toll of his completely unnecessary war of choice in Iraq. Obama doesn't believe in sweeping it under the rug, but gives families the option of having photos taken.
Obama also believes that it's completely appropriate for a CiC to appear at the return of those who were killed serving their country. Bush and Cheney had other priorities.

Bottom line--
Obama=Class
Liz Cheney=irrelevant scum

"fearing that the images may turn public opinion against the war"

Might, not may.

I enjoy bashing Bush as much as anyone, but I think it's only fair to point out that he did meet with families of slain soldiers. I can't say how often, but my understanding is that he did it regularly. You can google up contemporary news reports fairly easily, but it's harder to find photos, because reporters were excluded from these meetings. This I suspect is what Liz Cheney is talking about. I believe that Bush was absolutely wrong about the Iraq war, but I don't think it's fair to claim that he was unwilling to face the human consequences of his decisions. On the other hand, I'm not sure you can say the same for Cheney.

The American people have the right, duty even, to see the consequences of our actions. Any one, especially a Cheney, who is telling you otherwise has an agenda.

It just occurred to me that it seems like father Cheney is letting daughter Cheney doing a lot of the heavy lifting in the attack dog area.

"...Liz Cheney's contemptible sleaze..."

Runs in the family

I would have gladly foregone all the stupid coverage of Bush hitting golf balls, Bush clearing brush, Bush giving unwanted massages, or Bush tap dancing, in favor of hime getting his ass out of bed early to go greet the victims of his policy.

"fearing that the images may turn public opinion against the war"

Might, not may.

I love you.

This is another part of Ms. Cheney's statement that is a flat-out-lie:

And I don't understand sort of showing up with the White House Press Pool with photographers and asking family members if you can take pictures.

The families made their decision on whether to allow cameras before they were told that the president was going to be there, and no one asked them to reconsider those decisions.

I guess it's not surprising that a sleazebag like Liz Cheney assumes that all administrations act as much like bullies as her father's did...

ACORN! ACORN! ACORN! ACORN! ACORN!

ACORN! ACORN! ACORN! ACORN! ACORN!

ACORN! ACORN! ACORN! ACORN! ACORN!

ACORN! ACORN! ACORN! ACORN! ACORN!

ACORN! ACORN! ACORN!

And they wonder why they're losing. Some things are more important apparently.

who knows more about dead troops..

than a republican...