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November 2, 2009

CRAZY LIKE A FOXX.... Rep. Virginia Foxx's (R-N.C.) reputation for over-the-top rhetoric is well deserved. She's a deather, a tenther, and she recently boasted, "There are no Americans who don't have healthcare."

But today's gem is a must-have for Foxx's greatest-hits package.

During a floor speech today, Foxx bluntly declared that the Affordable Health Care for America Act, which House Democrats unveiled last week, is a greater threat than any terrorist in the world:

"...I believe that the greatest fear that we all should have to our freedom comes from this room -- this very room -- and what may happen later this week in terms of a tax increase bill masquerading as a health care bill. I believe we have more to fear from the potential of that bill passing than we do from any terrorist right now in any country."

As a substantive matter, this is obviously insane. Reforming a broken health care system, extending coverage to families that need it, and offering stronger consumer protections to those who already have insurance is not dangerous. Even for the most delusional conservatives, it's certainly not scarier than a terrorist attack.

But in the bigger picture, I'm fascinated by the right's willingness to downplay the significance of the terrorist threat in general. TV preacher Pat Robertson told George Stephanopoulos a while back that the Sept. 11 monsters were just "a few bearded-terrorists who fly into buildings" and that federal judges who fail to share his worldview are a greater threat to the fabric of America than terrorism today, Nazis during WWII, and the Civil War in the 19th century.

Last week, Rep. John Shadegg (R-Ariz.) said that the reform debate is more import than the 9/11 attacks. Today, Virginia Foxx thinks reform is scarier than terrorism.

It wasn't too long ago that the right considered al Qaeda and other terrorists the single most serious threat imaginable. It was, they said, the existential threat of the 21st century.

I guess conservatives' priorities have changed?

Steve Benen 2:20 PM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (30)
 
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So health care reform is good for the terrorists?

Posted by: leo on November 2, 2009 at 2:24 PM | PERMALINK

The party in the white house changed, that simple.

Posted by: rbe1 on November 2, 2009 at 2:25 PM | PERMALINK

-aren't these the same people who rushed the Patriot Act through congress?

Posted by: DAY on November 2, 2009 at 2:30 PM | PERMALINK

BOOOO!!!!!

Did I scare ya????

Posted by: Paul Dirks on November 2, 2009 at 2:32 PM | PERMALINK

There are enough different Republicans saying stuff like this to conclude that it's not just crazy fucking Republicans saying stuff that's obviously insane-- it's a deliberate strategy. Say whatever you have to, do whatever it takes to derail Obama. Period.

Posted by: MattF on November 2, 2009 at 2:36 PM | PERMALINK

I guess the Republicans think the greatest threat is from within... Talk about scary rhetoric?

Posted by: Dean on November 2, 2009 at 2:41 PM | PERMALINK

9/11 did occur under Republican rule. As much as they're now disavowing the excrescence that is Bush, he is a Republican. Very much so, in fact.

Beyond that, to these people, yes, darn tootin' the Democratic agenda is scary. If it were implemented properly (see FDR, New Deal), the Dems would be in power for a lonnnnnng while to come. This won't happen because the Dems these days are corporate whores who barely care more for Americans than Republicans do.

Posted by: zhak on November 2, 2009 at 2:45 PM | PERMALINK

Does everything they do have to equal Freedom Fighting Revolutions??

Posted by: Chris- The Fold on November 2, 2009 at 2:46 PM | PERMALINK

Insane?
That is the current operating procedure of the entire Republican Party.
Seriously, when one of them says something rational - now that's headline news

Posted by: john R on November 2, 2009 at 2:52 PM | PERMALINK

Bush never cared about terrorists. He made rhetorical attacks on "terra" but he never made it the center of his foreign policy. That was invading Iraq and stealing their oil.

He famously didn't care if Bin Laden was free or not. After all the hype about 9-11 and "dead or alive" crap, he shrugged his shoulders about all the dead Americans and was off to what was REALLY important -- oil.

And NOBODY called him on it! The media all shrugged too and pretended like 9-11 was just a photo op. No SERIOUS efforts were even made to prevent another attack -- such as securing our ports for instance. Or finishing the job in Afghanistan and finding Bin Laden in Pakistan. Etc.

Instead we all had to remove our shoes and surrender our nail-files to get on airplanes. That was nothing more than a propaganda excercise devised to convince people that "security" was being stepped up.

So, why would the modern Republican party be any different now?

"Anti-Terrorism" is nothing more than a propaganda device to them -- useful for attacking their enemies, and justifying policies they'd already decided on for other reasons, but not to be taken seriously.

Posted by: Cugel on November 2, 2009 at 2:56 PM | PERMALINK

It's good to hear. Maybe we can all agree that the terror threat has been over-hyped, and that therefore we should repeal the "Patriot Act," end warrantless wiretapping, pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan, and reduce military spending by 50%.

Posted by: bobbo on November 2, 2009 at 2:59 PM | PERMALINK

You could make the argument that health care reform really is more important than 9/11. According to a recent Harvard study, nearly 45,000 people die annually to to lack of health insurance. That's the equivalent of a 9/11 every month. I don't think that's what Rep. Foxx meant, though.

Posted by: Master Mahan on November 2, 2009 at 3:01 PM | PERMALINK

The Left misses an opportunity to tar the Right over these remarks.

Bad Approach: That is false and ridiculous! How can health care be compared to terrorism!

Good Approach: Republicans' inability to differentiate once again illustrates why they're the wrong choice to lead anything. No wonder they've bungled America's security, if they conflate military threats with complex policy debates. Elsewhere, they're admitting their blindness yet again, saying they can't see anything in Katrina that could've been handled differently, by comparing it to the well-handled (except by the vaccine producers) H1N1 response.

Posted by: poliwog on November 2, 2009 at 3:03 PM | PERMALINK

Why isn't she being arrested and confined for the safety of herself and those in the chamber? This woman would be hauled off to jail for vagrancy if she were not wealthy and privileged. Where is the push back from anyone? Mr. Grayson, your moment has arrived. Call this bitch out for the terrorist she is and let the feathers fly!

Posted by: st john on November 2, 2009 at 3:06 PM | PERMALINK

And she's on Medicare....??? AND takes advantage of a socialist gov. owned clinic there in congress only available for members at tax payer expense.

Can this idiot hear herself sounding like a fool. A perfect example of organic brain syndrome..."Kill the sick, they might get well and become terrorists"

Posted by: bjobotts on November 2, 2009 at 3:07 PM | PERMALINK

So when terrorists do strike again will the right applaud?

Will they cheer?

Are they helping to plan an attack?

Be wary folks. As insane as the health care dialogue is, these comments actually should make us all step back for a minute and think about the political windfall an "attack" might bring.

Yes, terrorism is way over hyped, but to equate health reform with it is beyond insanity, it's creepy.

Posted by: Tom Nicholson on November 2, 2009 at 3:25 PM | PERMALINK

Silly Steve. The current threat is alway The Most Threatening Threat Evah! (tm).

That is covered the first day in Conservative Lunacy 101. Sheesh.

Posted by: biggerbox on November 2, 2009 at 3:27 PM | PERMALINK

"Even for the most delusional conservatives, it's [public health] certainly not scarier than a terrorist attack."

Oh yes it is... yes it is... at least to their masters.

Posted by: Buford on November 2, 2009 at 3:28 PM | PERMALINK

TV preacher Pat Robertson told George Stephanopoulos a while back that the Sept. 11 monsters were just "a few bearded-terrorists who fly into buildings"

Typical hirsutist bigotry!

Posted by: Quaker in a Basement on November 2, 2009 at 3:44 PM | PERMALINK

Rep. Foxx is a dangerous embarrassment to our nation and our way of life - blame the voters in her district! -Kevo

Posted by: kevo on November 2, 2009 at 3:55 PM | PERMALINK

Better Approach: Until the Republican party can explain to the American people why they do NOT consider a space alien invasion from Zirkonn-6 to be a priority, they have no credibility on any issue.

Posted by: DH Walker on November 2, 2009 at 3:57 PM | PERMALINK

Better Approach: Until the Republican party can explain to the American people why they do NOT consider a space alien invasion from Zirkonn-6 to be a priority, they have no credibility on any issue.

One Glenn Beck declares we're being invaded by the Zirkonn-6 lizard people, Republicans will immediately declare it a top priority, attack Barack Obama for leaving America defenseless against their anti-Jesus cannons, and imply he was hatched as part of the Zirkonn Queen's massive brood.

Posted by: Master Mahan on November 2, 2009 at 5:00 PM | PERMALINK

Just when we thought that Jesse Helms was the looniest lunatic ever produced in North Carolina we have been proven wrong. How do the good people in the Winston Salem area keep re-electing this brain dead idiot? She should be on medicare instead of railing against it. She's got to be senile or something. North Carolina is more of a progressive state We are moving forward and she seems to be stuck in a time warp. This 2009 not 1928.

Posted by: john c black on November 2, 2009 at 6:05 PM | PERMALINK

That ain't funny. I'd love to hear Alan Grayson respond to such an idiotic comment.

Posted by: Winkandanod on November 2, 2009 at 6:47 PM | PERMALINK

And all the "support the troops" malarkey has been unnecessary.

No they are not heroes; and its downright weird that they get treated as such.

Posted by: zigmunt on November 2, 2009 at 8:04 PM | PERMALINK

"I guess conservatives' priorities have changed?"

Or even they have gotten so sick listening to themselves cry "Wolf", that their trying a new tactic.
At least it gives them the opportunity to keep saying "al Queda," or "Terrorist" as many times a day as possible, just is case it still scares anybody anymore.

Posted by: Marnie1 on November 2, 2009 at 8:08 PM | PERMALINK

It would be nice to use the 'projection' going on in the Republican party for a good cause:

Agree that the fear of increasing taxes for offering health care to all Americans is a worse threat than terrorism. then... Offer them a solution that should logically flow from their argument...

Since the terrorists are not that much of a threat, let's cut the 680 billion yearly budget for the Pentagon in half.

That would free up 340 billion for Healthcare per year, which means that it would completely pay for health care for all Americans (current public option enhanced proposal being in the 80-90 billion per year neighborhood)

Surprise: there would be enough money left over to give everybody a tax cut.

Wouldn't that satisfy their right wing tenet of cutting taxes always being the correct the solution for all problems?

Posted by: bruno on November 2, 2009 at 11:13 PM | PERMALINK

"Worse than 9/11" seems to be their new TP (talking point).

Still fixated on 9/11 and using it again in an obscene, necrophiliac way.

Bastards.

Posted by: Sarah Barracuda on November 3, 2009 at 1:25 AM | PERMALINK

I have a little bit of dyslexia and when I saw "Rep Foxx" my mind first flipped into Red Foxx. He, too, told a lot of dirty jokes, but not about other people's health care.

Posted by: Cal Gal on November 3, 2009 at 1:29 AM | PERMALINK

Think Flouridation. The other Communist Plot to sap the vital essence of Americans.

From the American Thinker:
"The fixation was at last immortalized by Stanley Kubrick in his masterly political satire, Dr. Strangelove. Gen. Jack D. Ripper (Sterling Hayden) sent his entire nuclear-armed B-52 wing against the USSR. Why? Squadron Leader Mandrake (Peter Sellers) wants to know. "Fluoridation, Mandrake!" The commies drink only vodka, never water, while poisoning little kid's ice cream, all for the purpose of sapping the nation's vital bodily fluids. Are you convinced yet?"

Now substitute Health Care for flouridation.

Posted by: Marc on November 3, 2009 at 8:21 AM | PERMALINK
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