no, but that's the talking point and they're stickin' to it. at least till the new one comes along.

And yet no worse than Reagan's attack on Medicare:

“Write those letters now. Call your friends, and tell them to write them. If you don’t, this program I promise you will pass just as surely as the sun will come up tomorrow. And behind it will come other federal programs that will invade every area of freedom as we have known it in this country, until, one day… we will awake to find that we have socialism. And if you don’t do this, and if I don’t do it, one of these days, you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children, and our children’s children, what it once was like in America when men were free.”

Tens of thousands of Americans die every year because they lack health insurance. If we save those lives with more health insurance, we will be just like al Qaeda!

As each day passes, unhinged becomes too conservative a qualifier when taking note of the rhetoric coming from the likes of Rep. Fox and her intellectual co-dependents! -Kevo

This is too easy to turn on its head.

Republicans want you to be afraid of reform, but doing nothing leads to over forty five thousand deaths every year. That's more than seven 9/11s every year, and that number will go up.

So when Republicans tell you that you should be afraid, they're right. Be afraid of them.

Given the evidence of our recent political history, how Steve arrives at that final conclusion there is beyond me.

Because republicans are more dangerous to this country's survival than any terrorist in any country in the world.

I'm cynical about the Democrats. They just might introduce an amendment that clarifies that 'the public option shall not hereforewith include any license to indisciminately kill women and children' so that the party can 'address the concerns of Rep. Foxx'.

I have to agree with Charles. I have seen nothing to indicate that most people are sensible by any meaningful definition. And since the D's seldom fight back against the lies and BS, the R's have no fear of lying. For that matter, the D's usually cave to the R's without even thinking twice about.

For example: The entire Bush II presidency.

@doubtful-"Afraid". Try askeared, very askeared. Your math is off. Shouldn't that be 14 9/11's? Perhaps saying 14 times the amount of US troops killed in Iraq for the patriotic effect.

No question it's coordinated. On my drive to Washington this morning, it was on right-wing Baltimore radio in the 8 o'clock hour and on the Washington right-wing outlet during the 9 o'clock hour.

Let me be the first to call for a preemptive invasion of Sweden so we can fight the health reform terrorists abroad rather than at home.

It just opens it up for the left to say that the right doesn't take terrorism seriously. Terrorism is serious, people genuinely fear terrorism/terrorists. To diminish it with the rhetoric makes the right look very out of touch. I hope they keep it up because it puts them a little further into the wilderness.

For a bunch of tough guys, they're pretty afraid of some health care.

New GOP motto
"We have nothing to fear but healthcare itself."

"I would say it's the difference between an internal versus an external attack. Yes," McMorris Rodgers said. The Democratic bill "is internal. This is rocking our foundation."

Am I the only one seeing that good ol' Republican fallback to projection here? They've been talking for months about armed rebellion and "taking their country back," and now they're trying to claim that healthcare reform is the equivalent of armed rebellion.

Once they grab a note, they just can't let that sucker go, can they?

Why is it so scary to provide adequate and decent healthcare for our population?

Are we really so callous as to believe that health care is to be only for those of us fortunate enough to afford it or have jobs that make it affordable?

We lament our country's decline economically on the global stage, yet some amongst us feel that health care with ANY hint of government influence is tantamount to violent terrorist extremism.

Aren't we shooting ourselves in the foot by denying adequate and affordable health care for our children? By destroying countless families into an ocean of debt because of astronomical medical costs aren't we hurting our own long-term economical viability?

But then, maybe there are fools amongst us who don't give a rat's ass about our future or the health of our children.

Deep thought. What if there was a biological attack and only a national health data/base (only possible with healthcare for all) was the only way of halting the biological doomsday?

We are not gonna destroy 'merica by somewhat socializing our healthcare. If anything, we strengthen our national viability for generations to come.

Sometimes when I sit back and watch all the crazy people saying all these crazy things it makes me think Planet Earth is just a giant galactic kid's science experiment that went wrong and got kicked under the bed.

"For a bunch of tough guys, they're pretty afraid of some health care."

These people are driven by fear. And they think you're dumb enough to be scared into - or out of - anything.

This is the new Godwin's law/maxim. Equating anything to be as vial and inhuman as terrorism without a shred of comparitablity, fact or relevance.

The thing that gets me is that, while this would still be over the top if the bills were actually making profound changes, the compromised, watered-down thing we're talking about is SOOOO NOT! shaking things down to the foundations. We're NOT going to Medicare for All, we're NOT eliminating the rapacious insurers, we're so just barely getting started toward real reform.

Imagine how hyperbolic they'd be if we really WERE trying to outlaw private insurance and put all the doctors on the government payroll!

They crave the destruction of their own country, because it does not resemble their fantasies. They are afraid of everything, so the words are just picked at random to mean I'm scared.

They've been talking for months about armed rebellion and "taking their country back," and now they're trying to claim that healthcare reform is the equivalent of armed rebellion.
Just as wearing a hat festooned with teabags and screaming gibberish about Obama's birth certificate is the equivalent of trading musket fire with the Redcoats at Concord Bridge.
The revolution will not be televised - it will be trivialized.

Right wing Republican logic test question:

Q. What's the difference between an orange?
A. A pencil, because a vest has no sleeves.

If you don't understand this Q & A, you have no business being a right wing Republican.

I think you're short selling the Blue Dogs' ability to be cowed, Steve.

This kind of thinking isn't new. A few days after Timothy McVeigh murdered abou 150 people in Oklahoma City, Cal Thomas (I think) wrote a column saying that the recent passage of a law giving some rights to domestic partners was every bit as damaging a blow to the United States. I don't think that logic got him very far then, and it probably won't now, but they'll just keep trying to scare us with every negative and frightening comparison they can dream up.

I thought the terrorism comparison worked rather the other way. If we had Canada's infant mortality rate, 8000 fewer infants would die in this country, every year. That's just infant mortality, not counting any other healthcare stuff, and taking care of moms-to-be is relatively cheap -- yet we don't do it, and the Republicans don't want us to have a better system (universal care) that would save the lives of all those babies, that is proven to reduce infant mortality in 20+ other countries.

Obama = Hitler

Healthcare reform = terrorism

up = down

peace = war

torture = freedom

1984 = 2009

Jeezus f'king christ, these people must get up very early in the morning to come up with so many flavors of craziness.

Democrats aren't exactly going to feel intimidated by unhinged rhetoric that sensible people won't take seriously.

Really? Have we replaced the Democratic party with Folgers Crystals?

Look I hope you're right, but not much money has been lost over the past 10 years betting against the Democratic party's ability to cringe at anything.

This probably IS "internal terrorism" for the Republicans. It's eroding their base of uninformed, incurious voters who habitually vote Republican the way they normally choose comfort food.

Great snippet. We need to find ways to debate real issues without attacking one another. Then maybe we could find answers that are worth the struggle. Like this: http://cli.gs/z3AtaY/