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November 5, 2009

NOTE THE DATE.... Today, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) hopes to lead a small army of right-wing activists around Capitol Hill, in the hopes of derailing health care reform. But let's not lose sight of the context here -- Bachmann has already referred to anti-reform activists as "insurgents" and "freedom fighters." Last night, she went a little further, encouraging conservatives to try to "scare" federal lawmakers.

In a conference call Wednesday night with bloggers and activists for the advocacy group Americans for Prosperity, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) called on protesters to "scare" members of Congress into killing the proposed health care reform bill.

If the protesters succeed in scaring lawmakers, Bachmann said that it could cripple efforts to restructure health care for a decade.

"Nothing scares members of Congress more than freedom-loving Americans," Bachmann said.

Referring to herself in third person, Bachmann added, "It is not Michele Bachmann's fault" if the activists are angry tomorrow -- "it is Speaker Pelosi's."

And when has Bachmann scheduled her Capitol Hill soiree? This afternoon -- November 5 -- a date widely known as Guy Fawkes Night. (You know, "Remember, remember, the fifth of November.") In other words, Bachmann wants to rally right-wing activists, label them an "insurgency," and encourage them to roam the halls of Congress deliberately "scaring" members of Congress, on the infamous date that marks an attempt to blow up the Houses of Parliament.

From a security perspective, if Capitol Police aren't operating at a heightened state today, they're making a mistake.

From a political perspective, I wonder if Republican Party leaders are glad to see a right-wing, deranged lawmaker lead an angry far-right mob through the Capitol. Nothing says "American mainstream" like Bachmann and a confused horde shipped to D.C. by corporate lobbyists.

Postscript: On a related note, the day before the biggest day of the year for Bachmann, the deranged lawmaker's chief of staff suddenly and unexpectedly quit. Bachmann refused to comment on the resignation. That's odd.

Steve Benen 8:30 AM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (57)

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They should cancel today's business, put out a large table of free bottled water for Bachman's VIP guests, lock all the rest rooms and let the tea baggers make fools of themselves until their bladders give out.

Posted by: Aatos on November 5, 2009 at 8:30 AM | PERMALINK

Maybe the chief of staff wants a career after Bachmann?

Posted by: Ron Byers on November 5, 2009 at 8:30 AM | PERMALINK

Yes, but how many of the insurgents running through the Capitol will be armed, with loaded weapons?

Oh, I know there are probably some archaic regulations -- *unconstitutional* regulations -- prohibiting weapons in the Capitol building, but those rules are really just there for terrorists. Representative Bachmann should be able to cite the Second Amendment and give her personal guests dispensation.

Posted by: Z. Mulls on November 5, 2009 at 8:32 AM | PERMALINK

Sadly, the Dems are such little girls, she might be right. It's the crazies against the wimps in our capital these days.

Posted by: bos'n on November 5, 2009 at 8:33 AM | PERMALINK

"Last night, she went a little further, encouraging conservatives to try to "scare" federal lawmakers."

There's a word for this: it's called intimidation. In fact, there's an even better word for using scare tactics to drive political consequences, and that word is 'terrorism.'

Me, I'll settle for 'unAmerican.'

Posted by: azportsider on November 5, 2009 at 8:47 AM | PERMALINK

Come now. Has Michelle Bachman really so impressed you with her intelligence, knowledge, and subtlety, that you can honestly say you believe she (a) planned this deliberately for Guy Fawkes Day or even (b) had any idea who Guy Fawkes was or what was at stake?

Posted by: Bernard HP Gilroy on November 5, 2009 at 8:47 AM | PERMALINK

Guy Fawkes was hung drawn and quartered for his crime. Is Benen advocating the same for the protesters? Execution for exercising their First Amendment rights?

Posted by: Al on November 5, 2009 at 8:48 AM | PERMALINK

azportsider -- We don't want your pakistani definition of "terrorism" here. White conservatives can not be terrorists, they can only be terrorized. Thats the American definition.

Posted by: inkadu on November 5, 2009 at 8:49 AM | PERMALINK

According to the teabaggers and libertarians, we will no longer be a free country if we have universal health care.

For decades now, Great Britain has had true government run health care that goes far beyond anything being remotely proposed for the U.S. Britain was our ally in two world wars, Korea, Vietnam, and now in Iraq and Afghanistan. If Britain is a Stalinist gulag, I'd like to know why we are allied with them.

Come on, teabaggers, is the U.K a free country? Yes or No.

Posted by: Virginia on November 5, 2009 at 8:53 AM | PERMALINK

Bernard beat me to it, but I have to repeat that there's NO WAY that Bachmann knew about the connection to the Guy Fawkes anniversary.

That would be both subtle, and in a way sort of cool.

Neither of which qualities the "honorable" representative from Minesota posseses.

Posted by: steveconga on November 5, 2009 at 8:56 AM | PERMALINK

Now we suffocate folks with paralyzing drugs , Sweet !

Posted by: FRP on November 5, 2009 at 8:57 AM | PERMALINK

Not to echo Bernard HP Gilroy's comment, but I wondered the same thing. But since ideas such as these usually come from other sources (i.e. staffers smarter that Bachman), Steve's warning to Capitol Police is definitely warranted.

Thanks for the reminder, I may watch "V for Vendetta" again today.

Posted by: BuzzMon on November 5, 2009 at 8:57 AM | PERMALINK

I hope the metal detectors are in good working order.

Posted by: John R on November 5, 2009 at 9:06 AM | PERMALINK

Al,

Intentionally "scaring" people is not considered a protected right, in any constitution, even the one ignored by your buddies, the Cheney/Bush mal-admin.

Posted by: IntelVet on November 5, 2009 at 9:09 AM | PERMALINK

Sounds like the capitol police should break out the police dogs, water cannons, tear gas, and nightsticks.

Posted by: Bobo Teh Clown on November 5, 2009 at 9:10 AM | PERMALINK

If one of these people actually did something bad in their attempt to "scare" a member of Congress might Michele be in some trouble? I would hope so.

Posted by: SaintZak on November 5, 2009 at 9:11 AM | PERMALINK

I hope the metal detectors are in good working order.

Posted by: John R

Tin Foil hats are metal too , also .

Posted by: FRP on November 5, 2009 at 9:11 AM | PERMALINK

Guy Fawkes was hung drawn and quartered for his crime. Is Benen advocating the same for the protesters?

Bachmann would suffice.

Posted by: Bobo Teh Clown on November 5, 2009 at 9:12 AM | PERMALINK

bachman surely didn't know about Guy Fawkes, but some aggressive little birdie who has her ear does. For te record, I don't believe this "running of the halls of Congress" idea was her own, either. Same aggressive & influential little birdie. Expose Bachman's Svengali, shame him or her publicly, Bachman won't become less crazy, but she will become more quiet & less dangerous.

Posted by: slappy magoo on November 5, 2009 at 9:13 AM | PERMALINK

Bachmann has already planted the notion that congressional Democrats -- Speaker Pelosi specifically -- are going to use their authority to "silence" or "censor" this event. That's a shrewd claim to make from the teabaggers' perspective, politically. When (maybe) several hundred chanting, angry people waving signs and banners show up at a Capitol Police screening point, it's going to be a madhouse, with delays, arguments, and the 'baggers being forced to abandon their props and signs. Thus Bachmann's prediction will be "proved" -- that Speaker Pelosi is using security forces to "silence" peaceful oppostition. That's a win-win for the crazies.

Posted by: Lunatics Loose in the Asylum on November 5, 2009 at 9:14 AM | PERMALINK

there's NO WAY that Bachmann knew about the connection to the Guy Fawkes anniversary.

Guy Fawkes is a major symbol in Ron Paul circles. To suggest that Bachman wouldn't know about this date is like suggesting that she wouldn't know the significance of 4/20.

Posted by: Danp on November 5, 2009 at 9:14 AM | PERMALINK

I think we have entered Lewis Carroll country - not Wonderland but a tale in eight "fits". http://www.literature.org/authors/carroll-lewis/the-hunting-of-the-snark/

Bachmann's chief of staff was eaten by a boojum?

Erect and sublime, for one moment of time.
In the next, that wild figure they saw
(As if stung by a spasm) plunge into a chasm,
While they waited and listened in awe.

"It's a Snark!" was the sound that first came to their ears,
And seemed almost too good to be true.
Then followed a torrent of laughter and cheers:
Then the ominous words "It's a Boo-"

Then, silence. Some fancied they heard in the air
A weary and wandering sigh
Then sounded like "-jum!" but the others declare
It was only a breeze that went by.

They hunted till darkness came on, but they found
Not a button, or feather, or mark,
By which they could tell that they stood on the ground
Where the Baker had met with the Snark.

In the midst of the word he was trying to say,
In the midst of his laughter and glee,
He had softly and suddenly vanished away---
For the Snark *was* a Boojum, you see.

Posted by: OKDem on November 5, 2009 at 9:15 AM | PERMALINK

Something is happening outside the beltway. When you talk to people you find they are suffering. Many are unemployed and there are no jobs in sight. Lots of homes are being foreclosed. They blame both Republicans and Democrats, but mostly they blame corporate leaders who think raising credit card rates ahead of reform is an OK idea and dumping people with "pre-existing" conditions is the right thing to do if it saves a few bucks for CEO salaries.

The old timers who fought the great wars and learned the value of team work and decency in the process have retired or gone to the grave. The new generation was hatched in business schools where they learned the pirate philosophy. The "greed is good" "everybody should be a rock star" generation is failing badly.

Damn this country needs some real leaders for a change. One thing is for sure, they can't be found inside the beltway, or on wall street, or in country clubs across the country.

Posted by: Ron Byers on November 5, 2009 at 9:15 AM | PERMALINK

Al: it is "hanged", not "hung"

Posted by: VLWC on November 5, 2009 at 9:16 AM | PERMALINK

I seem to remember little freedom pens during the halycon bushie administration .

Posted by: FRP on November 5, 2009 at 9:17 AM | PERMALINK

Wonder what would be the response if I showed up with a sign saying "Single Payer for all"?

I mean, considering the apparent intellect of tea baggers (and their figurehead apparent), would they even think I was not "with" them?

Posted by: IntelVet on November 5, 2009 at 9:18 AM | PERMALINK

If we lived in more authoritarian times, say 2000-2008, she would be arrested for sedition.

Posted by: Marko on November 5, 2009 at 9:18 AM | PERMALINK

I for one look forward to seeing a couple of million patriotic Americans show up at Capitol Hill. And you can bet that no matter how many dozen people actually show up the crowd will be estimated in the millions.

Posted by: Dennis-SGMM on November 5, 2009 at 9:22 AM | PERMALINK

Nov. 5 is also my mom's birthday, and if she were still alive, she'd kick Bachmann right in the nuts.

Posted by: PattyP on November 5, 2009 at 9:23 AM | PERMALINK

Nov. 5 is also my mom's birthday, and if she were still alive, she'd kick Bachmann in the crotch and tell her to get back to work and quit wasting taxpayer money on asinine publicity stunts.

Posted by: PattyP on November 5, 2009 at 9:25 AM | PERMALINK

The pathology behind her efforts to perform on the national stage is about to produce a spectacular ugliness here in America. Michelle Bachmann is incapable of discerning what her hysterical national performance will wrought on this fine day in November, 2009. Any uncivil behavior in our national capital today must be thrown at the feet of this uber-siren from Minnesota! -Kevo

Posted by: kevo on November 5, 2009 at 9:25 AM | PERMALINK

If one of these people actually did something bad in their attempt to "scare" a member of Congress might Michele be in some trouble? I would hope so.

You mean, say, murdering a census worker?

Posted by: DH Walker on November 5, 2009 at 9:33 AM | PERMALINK

I hope she gets trampled by her crazy hordes. On camera. Live.

Posted by: Patrick on November 5, 2009 at 9:37 AM | PERMALINK

PattyP, you had it right the first time.

Posted by: Snarky Bastard on November 5, 2009 at 9:39 AM | PERMALINK

What I don't get: those in opposition to Bachmann's batshit crazy talk should be able to utilize this as an opportunity. Think of the reaction if Bachmann and her Reich wing cohorts in Congress were besieged by angry constituents demanding to know why they're holding up health care? On the day she called for her teabagger minions to storm the barricades, instead there's a flood of those who are tired of the rabid right controlling the debate.

I think it would be an interesting experiment on many levels. But I haven't seen anything close to this type of strategery being put forth by anyone in the non-dittohead segment of the population.

Any thoughts from the studio audience on this modest proposal?

Posted by: (: Tom :) on November 5, 2009 at 9:44 AM | PERMALINK

It sounds like Congresswoman Crazy is on the verge of inciting a riot at the Capitol.

Posted by: Patrick on November 5, 2009 at 9:47 AM | PERMALINK

"Any thoughts from the studio audience on this modest proposal?"

Tom--I just want one person to confront her with the question of how much she likes her own government-run health insurance. You know: the insurance we're paying for. And, of course, I want her answer on videotape.

Posted by: azportsider on November 5, 2009 at 9:57 AM | PERMALINK

"Remember, remember the fifth of November.
Teabagging, Treason and Plot.
I see no reason why Teabagging Treason
Should ever be forgot."

Posted by: rea on November 5, 2009 at 10:01 AM | PERMALINK

Let's designate Congressman Grayson as the welcoming committee for Bachman's group......

Posted by: DTR on November 5, 2009 at 10:16 AM | PERMALINK

November 5 -- a date widely known as Guy Fawkes Night.

I always knew that Tea Baggers were a Jesuit Plot.

Posted by: Edmund Campion on November 5, 2009 at 10:40 AM | PERMALINK

Don't miss the Storming of The Hill!!

Posted by: Chris- The Fold on November 5, 2009 at 10:42 AM | PERMALINK
I wonder if Republican Party leaders are glad to see a right-wing, deranged lawmaker lead an angry far-right mob through the Capitol.

This is just the first try to see how far it gets. The next effort will build on whatever political successes this one generates, just as this is an extension of the August tea parties intended to shut down Congressional town hall meetings.

The tea parties were successful at that effort. Lots of publicity and shut down the town hall efforts, isolating the Congressmen from personal contact with their constituents.

The German SA spent over a decade in the 1920's growing the political violence and baiting the police who were supposed to maintain public order.

Posted by: Rick B on November 5, 2009 at 10:58 AM | PERMALINK

Even if Michele Bachmann doesn't know anything about Guy Fawkes Day, the chances are pretty good that someone on her staff has seen "V for Vendetta." That was immediately what I seized on too: the idea (in that movie) that the 5th of November is a date when the government is supposed to fear the people.

Which is of course not what Guy Fawkes Day ever meant to the people who celebrated it for real, because they would do things like burn effigies of Guy Fawkes and the Pope to celebrate the defeat of papist conspiracy *by* the government.

Posted by: FlipYrWhig on November 5, 2009 at 11:31 AM | PERMALINK

You expect us to believe that Michele Bachmann is familiar with English history? Give me a break. It's a coincidence.

Posted by: Daryl McCullough on November 5, 2009 at 11:39 AM | PERMALINK

@ Daryl and other doubters: Ron Paul did a "money bomb" on Guy Fawkes Day 2007. 24-Hour (Tea) Party People know about it.

Posted by: FlipYrWhig on November 5, 2009 at 11:48 AM | PERMALINK

If Bachman is trying to invoke Guy Fawkes, she is the right person for the job. Guy et al hoped to destabilize the realm so that they could install Elizabeth Stuart on the throne and reestablish a Catholic England; that Elizabeth Stuart was a Protestant didn't seem to bother them - though considering they thought that a bunch of Catholics blowing up the King and Parliament would make all of England turn into uber-Catholics in thanks, I don't think these guys had thought the plan through all the way. In that regard Bachman is the perfect Guy Fawkes: batshit insane, has a plan based on using terrorism to overthrow the government, and thinks everyone will worship her as the Messiah once she creates her Christofascist police state theocracy. Can't we just arrest her for treason now and strap her to a lit powder keg to get this whole mess over with? She is seriously ruining my birthday

Posted by: Phalamir on November 5, 2009 at 12:21 PM | PERMALINK

though considering they thought that a bunch of Catholics blowing up the King and Parliament would make all of England turn into uber-Catholics in thanks, I don't think these guys had thought the plan through all the way

Sounds similar to the Michael Ledeen/John Bolton plan for Iran.

Posted by: FlipYrWhig on November 5, 2009 at 12:30 PM | PERMALINK

"scaring"?

You mean, "terrorizing"?

Had any Dems been talking like this 5 years ago; they'd be on CIA planes, with "chemical restraint" suppositories in their rectums, on their way to Gitmo.

Figure: this is how health insurance companies operate in the first place. Through terror. "Give us your money, or die a horrible, lingering death of cancer." (and in many cases, these days, it's "give us your money, and you'll probably die that horrible lingering death anyway. so sorry")

Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on November 5, 2009 at 1:35 PM | PERMALINK

It was my understanding only about 3,000-3,500 hundred folks showed up for this charade, yet it got incredibly huge and misleading coverage on MSNBC-- where some guy (?) cable pundit who was filling in for the regulars misquoted by saying that 'thousands and thousands showed up'...and then again the number was even exaggerated more--by Eric Cantor who was interviewed by Andrea Mitchell. Cantor asserted: "tens of thousands showed up"

Posted by: Tea Party Flop on November 5, 2009 at 2:11 PM | PERMALINK

As I have said elsewhere: The "police" are mostly sympathetic with the Right Wingnuts, so only those who assault the police need be concerned. Nancy Pelosi had healthcare protesters arrested in her office in SF, so Bachmann's minions need fear nothing.

Posted by: st john on November 5, 2009 at 2:26 PM | PERMALINK

The opposite of 'Freedome' is 'Unity'

Posted by: jmichaeldavid on November 5, 2009 at 3:11 PM | PERMALINK

Your hysterical, hyperventilating post comparing peaceful protesters gathering and carrying signs to a violent revolutionary bombing parliament was buffoonish enough on its own.

But now given the that there was just an actual Muslim terrorist attack (oh, sorry, "man-made catastrophe") on Fort Hood today where a dozen people were killed and dozens more were wounded... just wow.

You're a disgusting human being.

Posted by: FUBenen on November 5, 2009 at 6:08 PM | PERMALINK

Wow, I thought some of my comments were messed up.

Posted by: Hazy on November 5, 2009 at 8:16 PM | PERMALINK

...actual Muslim terrorist attack..."
And you base your claim that it is a "Muslim terrorist attack" on what? Couldn't be the name of the gunman, now could it? Why, that would be a sign of, what's the word?...ah, yes:
a bigot?
Oh, and sorry, no points for originality on the way you signed your crapulent posting. Coward.

D.E. Stamate
USN (ret)

Posted by: Doug on November 5, 2009 at 8:25 PM | PERMALINK

[you're done here -- mod.]

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