November 10, 2009
A DIFFERENT KIND OF 'TEA PARTY'.... For the better part of the year, talk of a right wing "Tea Party" has referred to gathering of far-right activists, protesting ... whatever it is the right is so worked up about at the time.
In Florida, it's taken on a different kind of meaning.
A Florida conservative has registered an official "Tea Party" with the office of the Secretary of State, and is promising to run candidates against Republicans and Democrats in state and national races.
"The current system has become mired in the sludge of special interest money that seeks to control the leadership of both parties. It's time for real change," says Orlando lawyer Frederic O'Neal, the new party's chairman, who couldn't be reached immediately by phone, in a press release.
A spokeswoman for the Florida Secretary of State, Jennifer Davis, said the party had registered in August, and that its qualified candidates will appear on the ballot in the state.
As Chris Harris noted, "Republican lawmakers sensed they had a natural ally in the fight for Republican principles in opposition to President Obama's agenda. They were half right. While tea partiers are fervent opponents of Democrats, they feel no allegiance to the Republican Party. In fact, they're now one of its competitors."
Whether this amounts to much remains to be seen. Florida, like most states, has all kinds of minor parties that run candidates for various offices, but who have no meaningful impact on the electoral process. An Orlando lawyer can file the paperwork to start a new political party, but creating the infrastructure for a functional, effective political entity is extremely difficult -- especially when there's no larger, national party to help pull things together.
For that matter, even if other official Tea Parties were to spring up elsewhere, it's likely they could just endorse Republican Party candidates, rather than run candidates of their own.
But there's at least the potential for political relevance here. And if this were to catch on -- a big "if," to be sure -- it would signal a fairly significant problem for Republicans: how to keep a far-right party from losing even-further-right activists.
—Steve Benen 10:40 AM
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So, if the two dominate parties fail, we could conceivably be left with, wait for it; a Green Party and a Tea Party.
Dear FSM, I think I am going to be sick.
Posted by: Rook on November 10, 2009 at 10:43 AM | PERMALINK
As soon as 'Ol Glen and Rush pick up on this...it will take off. Perfect! Siphon off Republican voters ensuring Democratic wins . Works for me
Posted by: john R on November 10, 2009 at 10:45 AM | PERMALINK
You know, the "Know-Nothing Party" would be a weirdly appropriate name for this new party.
Posted by: GOPhuckYourself on November 10, 2009 at 10:49 AM | PERMALINK
Florida, like most states, has all kinds of minor parties that run candidates for various offices, but who have no meaningful impact on the electoral process.
Ralph Nader. 2000.
Posted by: Emily on November 10, 2009 at 10:56 AM | PERMALINK
Things will get interesting when the so-called leftwing outcasts and the so-called rightwing outcasts start talking directly to one another rather than using Washington as a conduit to broker things.
This has been a divide and conquer game which only Wall St. speculators, K St. lobbyists, insurance companies, and CEOs have won.
It's time to cut out the middle man.
Posted by: Molly Mcguire on November 10, 2009 at 11:00 AM | PERMALINK
What would the prerequisites be for Tea Party membership? A 6th Grade education and white skin?
Posted by: JJC on November 10, 2009 at 11:02 AM | PERMALINK
If Rubio beats Crist in the GOP Senate primary, watch for this party's Web site to go 404 within 48 hours.
Posted by: Steve M. on November 10, 2009 at 11:05 AM | PERMALINK
"The current system has become mired in the sludge of special interest money that seeks to control the leadership of both parties. It's time for real change."
..and then Mr. O'Neal's head exploded from the irony.
Posted by: terraformer on November 10, 2009 at 11:07 AM | PERMALINK
Can we please, pretty please, henceforth refer to the party leader as The Mad Hatter?
Posted by: Blue Girl on November 10, 2009 at 11:11 AM | PERMALINK
This dovetails nicely with my comment yesterday that Palin is no friend to Republicans. This is her niche.
Posted by: doubtful on November 10, 2009 at 11:11 AM | PERMALINK
Emily,
You beat me to it. I was going to put Pat Buchanan
where you put Ralph Nader.
Were'nt there a lot of Palm Beach Jews voting for Pat that year?
Posted by: catclub on November 10, 2009 at 11:16 AM | PERMALINK
Honestly, I now feel like there are four parties: Progressive Dems, ConservaDems, Republicans (e.g., Olympia Snowe), and Tea Baggers.
When I have a choice between the lesser of the two evils, then I'll always show up and vote for the lesser of the two evils (e.g., ConservaDems). That said, Democratic primaries matter. For me, that's the lesson of 2009.
Posted by: Chris on November 10, 2009 at 11:21 AM | PERMALINK
This seems to be an opportunity for the left to put up spoiler "Tea Party" candidates in close states to attract low information conservative votes away from the GOP. The official, not very well publicised, platform could be minimum standards for tea sold in the US or something.
Posted by: Ginger Yellow on November 10, 2009 at 11:32 AM | PERMALINK
I always knew the teabaggers were stupid, but I didn't think they'd be this stupid.
The only thing giving the teabaggers even a pretense of political credibility is the fact that they own the GOP brand, which at one time was a major U.S. political party. If they drop that they just become the Reform party with smaller ears. The rump GOP then becomes Olympia Snowe and Joementum, and the Dems take over politics for the next generation or so.
Posted by: jimBOB on November 10, 2009 at 11:33 AM | PERMALINK
I agree with doubtful that Palin's setting herself up to lead the bagger-birther brigade. I don't know that she's planning a presidential run so much as hoping to take a Queen of the Savages gig as far as she can, though.
Posted by: shortstop on November 10, 2009 at 11:34 AM | PERMALINK
But there's at least the potential for political relevance here. And if this were to catch on -- a big "if," to be sure -- it would signal a fairly significant problem for Republicans: how to keep a far-right party from losing even-further-right activists.
I have no love of the Republican party, but losing the far-far-right members would be the best thing that could happen to them. It's the only way they can recover. While I love to see them in shambles, I do know that we need a true second party, a second party that is interested in actually governing (as opposed to being only obstructionists at all cost), however wrong I think they are. I would also like to see the Republicans currently masquerading as Democrats ("blue dogs" and "centrist" dems) come out of hiding. As it is, it looks like the Democratic party can't agree with itself when it actually includes what was, in days past, Republicans. They need to go back to being Republicans
Posted by: Missouri Mule on November 10, 2009 at 12:01 PM | PERMALINK
Seriously, how hard was it for this Mad Hatter [thanks, Blue Girl!] to come up with this? It shows about as much originality as "Joanie Loves Chachi."
I can just hear the thought process:
We need a new "party" that's made up of the angry white people I met at the "tea parties." But, what to call it? Hey! Wait a minute!....Yes....No....Ow! My head hurts! ... wait .... wait .... I got it! No, wait.... no .... Yes! The "Tea Party!" ... Where's the Advil?
Posted by: chrenson on November 10, 2009 at 12:01 PM | PERMALINK
I don't know that she's planning a presidential run so much as hoping to take a Queen of the Savages gig as far as she can, though.
Less like Queen of the Savages and more like Lady of the Flies. These people are nearly certain to begin devouring each other as the definition of purity shifts farther and farther towards full-blown right wing paranoid schizophrenia.
Posted by: Dennis-SGMM on November 10, 2009 at 12:02 PM | PERMALINK
but creating the infrastructure for a functional, effective political entity is extremely difficult
Its been many years since my last paid political organizing gig, but I'd be willing to come out of retirement to help the Tea Party get organized enough to field candidates and run actual campaigns. For a non-trivial fee, of course. They're all about commerce.
Posted by: zeitgeist on November 10, 2009 at 12:02 PM | PERMALINK
Heh, I was actually thinking of Lord of the Flies when I wrote that, Dennis. I wish someone would conch Palin on the head.
Posted by: shortstop on November 10, 2009 at 12:03 PM | PERMALINK
For a non-trivial fee, of course. They're all about commerce.
What ever you do, don't pay taxes on it. The IRS is a team of slavers, man.
Posted by: shortstop on November 10, 2009 at 12:05 PM | PERMALINK
To in any way believe that any political party would be free of special interest money's influence is to have one's head up one's behind.
Public campaign financing is the solution to this and we could then say that special interest money is bribery, not free speech.
Posted by: VaLiberal on November 10, 2009 at 12:21 PM | PERMALINK
I'm with Chris on the 4 Party makeup in American politics today. I'm beginning to think it's better for progressives to form their own party (or jump over to the Green Party) and form coalitions with the others.
On issues such as FISA, progressives could caucus with libertarians and conservative factions to make sure civil rights are protected.
There are just a number of instances where I don't see alignment between progressive and corporate-owned conservadem interests.
Posted by: bdop4 on November 10, 2009 at 12:32 PM | PERMALINK
God I hope this works. Florida owes us.
Posted by: Cazart on November 10, 2009 at 1:03 PM | PERMALINK
This is a wonderful development. Now the TeaBAGGER Party can do for the Republicans Party what the Green Party did for the DemocratIC Party.
Posted by: Banana-Eating Jungle Monkey on November 10, 2009 at 1:07 PM | PERMALINK
This was the utterly predicable next step for the GOP as movement conservatives distance themselves from a the regular GOP political party which is compromised in right wing eyes because it has an institutional role to play in a corrupt political system. The conservative movement is a protest movement at war with America itself. Rather than face the fact of its own disloyalty directly, it deludes itself that it, and only it, represents "Real America." Therefore, to preserve its own purity and reason for being, the conservative movement musdt go to war with the US government, with American politics generally, and anything connected to our public realm, and that includes the GOP. Hence, this third Tea Party movement.
Posted by: Ted Frier on November 10, 2009 at 1:15 PM | PERMALINK
Floridean Tea Party - SPLITTERS!!
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"Excuse me, are you the Floridean Tea Party?"
"F*ck off! We're the Tea Party of Florida!"
"Oh. Sorry. Um, can I join your group? I hate the democrats already!"
"You'd have to REALLY hate the democrats in order to join the TPF."
"I do!"
"Oh yeah? How much?"
"A lot!"
"All right. You're in."
"!"
"But listen: the only thing we hate more than the democrats is the Floridean Tea Party! Splitters!"
"SPLITTERS!!"
(with apologies to Monty Python / Life of Brian)
Posted by: Marko on November 10, 2009 at 1:24 PM | PERMALINK
hah i really dig the article thx for posting this
Posted by: debt help on November 10, 2009 at 6:47 PM | PERMALINK
Missouri Mule- I was just thinking the same thing, that pushing the rabid zealots off the right-side cliff might not be bad strategy for the Reps. It would cost them mightily in one election cycle, but it would give whatever sane Republicans might be left a much better chance to try a sanity, courtesy, and maybe even humility as means of getting your way. I don't see much other chance for them as an institution. They've pushed the frame so far to the right they'll never be able to pull it back with the same people. They'll have to jettison them, and the easiest way is to let them leave happily.
Posted by: Tinroof on November 11, 2009 at 12:19 AM | PERMALINK