FIGHT'S ON, Motherfuckers....

Murdoch is clueless on the internet front as well, picking a fight with Google and the Fair Use doctrine.
But hey, if he wants to restrict access to Newscorp material on the internet in an effort to force people to pay extra for it, more power to him. The teabag crowd should know it's un-American to read stuff for free.
For those of us who never watched or read any of it anyway, no loss.

Beck may be crazy, be in the instance he was right. The President made a racist comment and got called out for it.

Instead of simply asserting Beck was wrong, how about defending what the President said? I'm assuming that you aren't doing that because what he said was indefensible.

krugman nailed this shit yesterday -- and sara robinson has noted the notched up the right wing movement toward real time, meat world "godwin" issues with her latest commentary -- prime example: last week's "republican press conference" with tea bagger extremists. the alliance of the republican party with the extreme right is growing.

it is past time to call this fascist movement for what it is, and the murdoch media conglomerate is a prime supporter of it...

Outside of FOX News' self-contained universe of tea baggers, birthers and malcontents, who cares what he says?

Tom,

You're going to have to support your statement with more than that. Try more detail with some facts to support your premise.

Tell us Tom, what did he say? Back up your point.

Chris Wallace gave Rush Limbaugh a half-hour of airtime on "Fox News Sunday," which the right-wing radio host used to make one ridiculous attack against the president after another. There was no obvious reason for the interview

Ummm, ratings? Publicity?

Will all of the sponsors who made a principled stand against Beck and pulled their ads from his show have the courage to follow through and pull their ads from all of Murdoch's media empire now that the man himself has called Obama a racist?

how about defending what the President said?

How about telling us exactly what he said? Murdoch wasn't quite up to that job.

Tom, the president's mother was white. The family that raised and nurtured him was white. He himself is as Boss Limpballs says only "Halfrican-American."

So just like Murdoch and Fuxsnooze you cite an exmple of him making a racist statement and provide no link or reference to when, where and to whom this mysterious statement was made.

It's no fun being foisted on by a retard.

Beck and Murdoch were referring to Obama's reaction to the Gates affair, in which he assumed that the officer behaved in a way he would not have had Gates been white.

in which he assumed that the officer behaved in a way he would not have had Gates been white.

Really? I don't remember him saying that, Tom, and you'll forgive me for suspecting that no non-Fox viewer does. Please provide the exact quote for us.

Murdoch may in a way be getting something of the benefit of the doubt here. He sounds very clueless about the internet stuff, and just because you're rich doesn't mean dementia isn't making its inroads: e.g., George Steinbrenner, who has no idea he owns a championship baseball team.

I see. So if you dare suggest that someone else's behavior is influenced by prejudice, then *you* become the racist.

Hey Tom,

Get off your fat ass and provide a link to the full story so we can understand the context of the alleged statement which supposedly supports your contention.

Otherwise, you are just full of shit.

Come on Tom. Give us a link, a quote with a link, something. This is pretty paltry stuff.

I hope you don't defend people in a court of law for a living using unsubstantiated crap like that. Tom, you are sounding more and more like a misinformed Fox News automaton. You aren't using any critical thinking skills when it comes to the information/lies that you get from Fox.

Tommmmmmmmm....... You're wasting our time, you freak of nature.

heck i dont even have to show up as often as doubtful beats me to it.

but what doubtful said: time for Phase II of the pressure on advertisers.

Tom, are you fucking serious or are you really a retard?

Have you heard of DWB? Never mind.

Here are examples of racist statements:

Barrack the magic negroe

Barrack Obama is uppity.

Rutger women's basketball team is a bunch of nappy headed hos.

NFL looks like crips and bloods.

Tom is clearly a babbling retard now scrambling for non-existent links.

Murdoch is Australia's peculiar curse on America. The damage he has done to this country is colossal.

It's profoundly offensive to read people calling Tom a 'retard' all in the name of defending Obama from a baseless charge of racism. It is so deeply wrong on so many levels.

Can someone tell me what we ever did to Australia to deserve this?

Can someone tell me what we ever did to Australia to deserve this?

We took their Mel Gibson. Turns out that unleashed all KINDS of problems...

..."I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in [the events]," Mr. Obama continued. "But I think it's fair to say, No. 1, any of us would be pretty angry; No. 2, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home; and No. 3, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is there is a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by police disproportionately. That's just a fact."

This is the statement that Beck thinks makes Obama a racist. And yes, I do think any of us would have been angry, regardless of race, if we were treated this way. The history of racial profiling only worsens the situation.

Others already beat me to this. But, yeah. Why stop at boycotting Beck's sponsors now? The owner of the whole shebang agrees with him. The boycott was kinda dumb anyway. It always should have been Fox in general. It never hurt Murdoch's bottom line. They advertised on his other shows, and you have finite time slots anyway. Beck's show still had advertisers.

Murdoch has now agreed with Beck. He entire media empire should be boycotted and his advertisers informed of that boycott.

Also . . . Tom. I know it's accepted "wisdom" about right wingers that the accusation of racism makes the accuser racist, unless you're a right winger. But, Obama didn't accuse the police of racism. He said they acted stupidly, and he said "the police" in general. He didn't single out white police officers.

Beyond that, they DID act stupidly. By definition.

And then what did Obama do? He got the offending and the offended parties together for a beer. They talked it out and have met again since that famous "beer summit."

Obama did absolutely nothing racist. His mistake was to get involved publicly, though he was just answering a direct question at a press conference. But he is NOT guilty of racism.

Beyond that, if someone IS racist, or says something racist, calling them out on it does NOT make the caller racist too. Racism is the belief in the inferiority or superiority of races. Period. End of story. Nothing Obama said or did even remotely suggests that he is.

Chris S.:
I see. So if you dare suggest that someone else's behavior is influenced by prejudice, then *you* become the racist.

Some time ago, Right-Wing World became determined to change the meaning of "racism" to "any mention of race." It's part of their long-running campaign to weaken any attacks against them by undermining the language itself. Using Orwell as a how-to manual yet again...

Hey; if I say something as dumb/false/inflamatory as Tom, can I get as much attention? Huh?

-this site sucks, and everyone on it, too. Besides, your mothers wear combat boots. . .

The boycott was kinda dumb anyway. It always should have been Fox in general.

I tend to take this the other way -- it's time to put those advertisers on the spot. They agreed that Beck's language was something they didn't want their brands associated with, so now it's time to follow up and push them to abandon Fox entirely, since Murdoch has made it clear that the problem is the entire network, not Beck.

It'll be tougher, sure, and we won't get all of them, but it's time to do this while the news is fresh.

Althrough I do not agree in the least with what Tom said, I am dismayed by those calling him "retard" That is an offensive term. Most people with developmental disabilities have more common sense and decency than all of the far right Glen Beck's and Murdoch's put together. They may not be able to participate in a form like this but when it comes to exercising their right to vote they do so in a very deliberate and thoughtful manner and know that they need to vote for the democratic candidate in order to get a fair shake in life. So please don't refer to these far right people like Tom as retards.

There can be no truce.

‘Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival.’

I am dismayed by those calling him "retard"

Just one person, I think, although he's using two handles.

MURDOCH: No, no, no, not Stalin, I don't think. I don't know who that, not one of our people. On the racist thing, that caused a grilling. But he did make a very racist comment. Ahhh ... about, you know, blacks and whites and so on, and which he said in his campaign he would be completely above. And um, that was something which perhaps shouldn't have been said about the President, but if you actually assess what [Beck] was talking about, [Beck] was right.
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Trying to parse exactly what Rupert Murdoch said or was attempting to say(above quote) is not a simple task. He at once remarked that "something perhaps shouldn't have been said about the President," presumably by Beck, "but if you actually assess what [Beck] was talking about, [Beck] was right."

We don't know what Murdoch means Beck shouldn't have said or what is is we are to assess that Beck was talking about. Or something.

I was more amused to learn that until last month Murdoch had never used Google. That's a level of cluelessness few of us will ever attain.

Dan

Murdock agrees with Beck which is no surprise as Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly, etc. are Murdock's sockpuppets.

Murdock agreeing with his sockpuppets.

I guess the "truce" is over?

Yeah, and it's an unforced error by Faux News.

Consider their dilemma: Thye have to pretend tobe outraged by being called out on their naked partisanship, but they also need that partisanship to satisfy the mouthbreathers in their audience. So after all the whining by the professional -- or rather, unprofessional -- concern trolls in the so-called "liberal media," the Obama Administration publicly tires to bury the hatchet, knowing that Faux will be the first to act in bad faith.

Obama's pointing out the obvious extremism and bias of Faux is smart politics. It's high time someone tried to move the Overton window back after the GOP's decades-long "liberal media" propaganda campaign.

Yawn ... We already know that Murdoch is a flaming asshole, so why the excitement ?

Tom, can you please use some other handle the next time you post your Fox News nonsense here? It's bad for my self-esteem to see everyone posting (and rightfully so!) what a stupid fucktard Tom is.

What Nodak and others said. It's very dissent-stifling to get a storm of rude and derisive comment every time you express an opinion that contradicts the popular tone of the thread. There's nothing whatever wrong with demanding some sort of supporting evidence, politely, but it should stop there. There's no obvious reason to assume Tom is a "retard" - even if that term were acceptable, which it isn't - absent anything but an unsupported allegation. What are you; Republicans?

I remember the incident in question well, and I'm confident Obama is sufficiently presidential to resist blurting out something in the heat of the moment, regardless what he might think. As for Blacks and Latinos being pulled over while driving with disproportionate frequency compared with whites, in certain neighbourhoods that is fact. The assumption in many upscale neighbourhoods is that they couldn't possibly live there, and if they're driving a BMW, they must have stolen it. Sometimes, the cops are correct. Anyway, Tom, if you can back up your allegation with a verifiable source, please do.

TOM is a perfect example of what happens to people who watch Fox News.

They think because they watch Fox News that they are 'well-informed consumers of information' and that the issues that "Liberals/Progressives" have with Fox News are about bias and not what it's really about which is mainly journalistic credibility (as well as political activism on Fox's part)....because that's what Fox tells them.

When you lie, Fox News, and are shown to be a liar constantly (see the research done on a daily basis from MediaMatters.org), most informed Americans would normally hold them accountable and stop watching Fox's nonsense.

But for some reason, stupid people want to be stupid. When FoxNews uses GOP talking points with the exact type-o's included and try to pass them off as credible 'news', and example after example of shoddy journalistic standards become the norm for Fox, there should be consequences for that.

But again, stupid people want to be stupid so they don't care that Fox has less credibility than any other news source (even if 'mainstream media' gets it wrong from time to time...there's no comparison).

Then, when people like TOM, try to articulate the issue/opinion that Fox gives them, their facts seem to be wrong or based on easily proven to be lies. And their premise quickly falls apart.

So it's decision time for TOM, now. TOM, every day, you have a decision to make.

Do you continue to misinform yourself and stay stupid? Or do you use some critical thinking skills in evaluating the news and news sources that you watch/read/listen to based on research and at least attempt to try to get the real story even if you have to read/listen to news sources that Fox tells you are lying (but have no proof).

TOM, you and people like you, need to take some responsibility in how you inform yourself. Try to broaden where you get news. For every story that you watch on FoxNews, maybe you watch another network story. For every Glenn Beck show that you watch, you watch Rachel Maddow.

Try it and get back back to us.

as a parent of a child with special needs I'll just never understand using the word retard as slang. The last time I checked retard didn't mean stupid. I would pick the company of my child and her friends over the ignorant one who uses that word so carelessly.