November 14, 2009
RUDY FEELS RELEVANT AGAIN.... Following up on an earlier item, there is one disappointing downside to the Justice Department's decision to try Khalid Shaikh Mohammed in federal court. It has nothing to do with national security or the rule of law, and everything to do with Rudy Giuliani pretending to know what he's talking about.
It's as predictable as the sunrise -- if there's a news story that relates to 9/11, Giuliani takes up residence in television green rooms. That Giuliani's 9/11 record is a rather painful and humiliating embarrassment is largely, if not entirely, overlooked.
But now that KSM is headed for a New York courtroom, Giuliani is everywhere again. Tomorrow, Americans will find him on ABC, CNN, and Fox News. Why? Because a few too many network producers are lazy and prefer to maintain the fiction that the former mayor has something worthwhile to say.
Watching Giuliani on Fox News yesterday, Josh Marshall noted, "[I]t's amazing the utter contempt this man has for the American justice system." That's plainly true -- Giuliani issued a statement yesterday with tired cliches ("a pre-9/11 mentality") and banal canards (the administration is "unable to identify and properly define its enemies"). The same statement added, "This is the same mistake we made with the 1993 terrorists who attacked the World Trade Center. We treated them like domestic criminals, when in fact they were terrorists."
Alex Koppelman explained the gall it took for this clown to make such a statement.
First of all, Giuliani himself celebrated the plotters' conviction in criminal court back in 1994, saying the verdict "demonstrates that New Yorkers won't meet violence with violence, but with a far greater weapon -- the law."
Moreover, as mayor, Giuliani was in a unique position to learn from the 1993 bombing and prepare his city for the next terrorist attack. He failed on both counts, with the most obvious evidence of his failure coming in the decision about where to place the city's emergency command center: He ultimately chose the World Trade Center, which had been bombed only a few years earlier. Giuliani has since tried to put the blame for this on his emergency management director, Jerome Hauer, but Hauer had fought for a site in Brooklyn before caving in to his boss.
Last year, the New York Times revealed a memo prepared by the New York Police Department that revealed the NYPD's strenuous objections to the choice. They had good reason to be concerned: On 9/11, the command center was useless, and -- despite what Giuliani says now -- it took hours for him to find a spot that could serve as a backup, Hauer's previous requests to build a secondary facility having been turned down.
If recent history and common sense had a more relevant role in our public discourse, Giuliani would be a laughingstock. Instead, the media enables him, perpetuating myths news outlets were responsible for creating in the first place.
—Steve Benen 8:40 AM
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Wouldn't it be refreshing for the host to know MORE about the topic than the guest, and then be confrontational when the obvious lies are uttered?
It sure would be fun; but other than Ms Maddow, I have little hope of seeing this happen on Sunday TeeVee.
Posted by: DAY on November 14, 2009 at 8:48 AM | PERMALINK
Let's not forget the most salacious part of Giuliani's insistence on putting the crisis center in the WTC: According to the city's emergency management director, Giuliani insisted on putting the command center within walking distance of his office. And after it was built, he frequently visited it with his mistress.
http://www.villagevoice.com/2007-07-31/news/rudy-giuliani-s-five-big-lies-about-9-11/full
Posted by: Matt Weiner on November 14, 2009 at 8:49 AM | PERMALINK
If recent history and common sense had a more relevant role in our public discourse, Giuliani would be a laughingstock. Instead, the media enables him, perpetuating myths news outlets were responsible for creating in the first place.
And in other news, the sky is blue, the sun sets in the west, and water is wet.
Posted by: The Caped Composer on November 14, 2009 at 8:57 AM | PERMALINK
Rudy is the only presidential candidate in US history to have had more wives than pledged delegates.
The decisions he took that compromised the security of New Yorkers is simply appalling. His decisions and actions that day put the lives of thousands of New Yorkers in peril, then he tried to leverage his proximity to the 9/11 disaster into a national campaign for President. He also tried to get his now convicted police chief to head up homeland security for the entire nation.
On issues of security and leaderahip he has no credibility -- none. Lord save us from people like Rudy Giuliani.
Posted by: pj in jesusland on November 14, 2009 at 9:16 AM | PERMALINK
First of all, Giuliani himself celebrated the plotters' conviction in criminal court back in 1994, saying the verdict "demonstrates that New Yorkers won't meet violence with violence, but with a far greater weapon -- the law."
Waahhht? They videotape that stuff and use recording devices? Print stuff in newspapers quoting me???
Republican amnesia. Sad part is only blogs like this, Jon Stewart, Steven Colbert, Rachel and Keith will take the time to point this out ...You won't see this anywhere on the MSM
Posted by: johnr on November 14, 2009 at 9:30 AM | PERMALINK
If wishes were fishes there would be that many more scales for dear , blind , justice .
Fish scales , an improvement over the smell from DOJ republican administrations habitually lay across America .
We are the factory farm effluvium testers , happy for the opportunity to lay our puny souls at the call of the mighty soul tested adulterers . The highest order of hypocrite is the most difficult and withering test of quibbles with the present graduating class of republican standouts .
The Guiliani
The McCain
The Limbaugh
My poor heart can only push blood while these standout examples have contributed endless reflection that was the reverse of what they push out .
Posted by: FRP on November 14, 2009 at 9:41 AM | PERMALINK
And nobody should forget the many years Giuliani spent helping to raise millions of dollars for the IRA to buy guns bombs and bullets through NORAID.
By his own definition, Giuliani is a terrorist. Raising funds for terrorism is a terrorist act.
Instead of opposing terrorism when he had the chance, Giuliani preferred to pander for votes. He was always pouring petrol on the flames, he did not spend one minute advancing the cause of peace. It was always the cause of Rudy Giuliani.
The policies that Giuliani has endorsed in the 'war on terror' are precisely the ones that he considered to be justification for terrorism in Ireland.
Posted by: PHB on November 14, 2009 at 10:17 AM | PERMALINK
If recent history and common sense had a more relevant role in our public discourse, Giuliani would be a laughingstock. Instead, the media enables him, perpetuating myths news outlets were responsible for creating in the first place.
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And the motives for the CORPORATE/REPIGLICAN media in doing this is ? And of course the answers demonstrate the absolute corruption of the CORPORATE/ REPIGLICAN media and the CORPORATE USED CUNTS that are hired , like prostitutes, to do the bidding of their CORRUPTED CORPORATE MASTERS. They are like monkeys with the little bell hop hats on, teethered to the Corporate hand organ, and dancing to the tune that is being played by the Corporate hand on the lever playing the tune itself. Welcome to the world of 'political editors' and 'new producers' who create the propaganda dictated by the Corporations themselves that they attempt to fraud the American public into 'believing' is the actual 'news'.
Posted by: stormskies on November 14, 2009 at 10:25 AM | PERMALINK
rudy giulinai is a prime example (but there are 100s) of the spectacular fantasies the corporate media weaves into and out of this society's memory.
(sometimes the occasional "the stupid... it burns!" is a brief recognition of the phenomenon.)
we were all repulsed by Pravda back when it was the Soviets who became the propaganda evil masters after the Nazis, back in the 50s and 60s.
Meanwhile back at the ranch, we've been lapping up the kool-aid all our lives...
Posted by: neill on November 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM | PERMALINK
Is this the same Rudy Giuliani who started his career in the US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York, rode into the mayor's office by touting his ability to put the toughest criminals like Mafiosos and drug dealers, claiming that the US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York isn't capable of prosecuting tough criminals like terrorists?
I'm amazed.
Posted by: g on November 14, 2009 at 11:46 AM | PERMALINK
I can't recall a specific source at the moment, but I'm pretty sure that there are several that confirm that Giuliani was basically being led around like a lost puppy on 9/11 by, of all people, Bernard Kerik (see: on suicide watch at Riker's). I wish more people would work toward exploding his whole 9/11 myth.
The man is utterly beneath contempt and has no shame.
One - and only one - good thing about Giuliani: he finally got rid of that godawful combover.
Posted by: Bluecrab on November 14, 2009 at 11:50 AM | PERMALINK
"This is the same mistake we made with the 1993 terrorists who attacked the World Trade Center. We treated them like domestic criminals, when in fact they were terrorists."
Isn't terrorism considered a criminal act? It didn't seem to bother anyone when they tried Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols as "domestic criminals".
Posted by: 2Manchu on November 14, 2009 at 12:07 PM | PERMALINK
Steve
You caught the essence of Rudy. He's a liar who says whatever he needs to say to better himself often at the expense of others.He's the same man who had two police commissioners commit illegal or unethical acts and he ignored them. The man failed to take the steps necessary to better ensure interagency communications at emergencies which cost first responders their lives. Rudy is trying to remain relevant at a time when few care about his thoughts.
Thanks for reminding your readers why Rudy should never hold office again
Jerome M. Hauer
Former Director/Mayors Office of Emergency Management NYC
Posted by: Jerome Hauer on November 14, 2009 at 12:58 PM | PERMALINK
Hey everybody, has everyone forgotten Bernie K? What are the chances George S will bring up Rudy's history when he questions him tomorrow? Silly me, George is only tough on Democrats. If he was tough on Republicans, his bosses might think he is too partisan.
Posted by: Sconsin Guy on November 14, 2009 at 5:42 PM | PERMALINK
I love reading and/or being told how great Giuliani is by people that don't live in New York State, nevermind the city. You people think he is so great, invite him to your city/state and vote him in. I'd love to hear what you think of him and his politics after a term or two in office.
Posted by: Schtick on November 14, 2009 at 9:22 PM | PERMALINK