November 15, 2009
THE MISSING GOP BILL.... House Democrats have a health care reform package, and Senate Democrats will have their own reform proposal. House Republicans unveiled their health plan a couple of weeks ago, which of course leaves Senate Republicans.
The House GOP plan was more anticipated, based in large part on the fact that party leaders "guaranteed" its release. Senate Republicans never made any pretense -- their goal has always been to attack the plan on the table, not offer a credible alternative of their own.
The Senate GOP caucus will, however, apparently at least throw a few ideas into the mix, even if it's not in the form of an coherent, comprehensive policy.
Senate Republicans cannot say what exactly the budgetary impact of their health alternatives would be, Sen. Judd Gregg (R-N.H.) said this weekend. [...]
The New Hampshire Republican said that GOP alternatives, which they'll offer as amendments to Democrats' health legislation, "don't cost money."
It stands to reason, then, that either Republicans have come up with magical proposals, or they intend to ignore the tens of millions of Americans who currently lack coverage.
Gregg went on to say that his party won't get analyses from the Congressional Budget Office because "we don't know how to score them under CBO rules." He added that Republicans "know from experience" that their ideas would "produce more effectively delivered cost service."
Right. Because if there's one thing Republicans have "experience" with, it's improving health care delivery efficiently and cost effectively.
Remind me, has that ever happened?
In the larger context, though, it's a reminder of a question we may be hearing more of in the coming weeks. If House Dems, House Republicans, and Senate Dems were all able to put together health care plans, and present them publicly, why are Senate Republicans sitting this one out? Why not unveil a proposal, and let Americans compare the strengths and weaknesses of the competing approaches?
—Steve Benen 10:55 AM
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OT, but rudy 9/11 was just on w/ little georgie stephanopuseless. sweet jeebuz, but he looks more and more like count orlock from "nosferatu" than ever.
Posted by: mellowjohn on November 15, 2009 at 10:57 AM | PERMALINK
Gregg went on to say that his party won't get analyses from the Congressional Budget Office because "we don't know how to score them under CBO rules." He added that Republicans "know from experience" that their ideas would "produce more effectively delivered cost service."
This proposal is so out there the CBO can't even score it, but trust us, it will work. Ooooookaaay. The Obama administration seriously considered this guy for a cabinet post? What the hell were they putting in their coffee that morning?
Posted by: jonas on November 15, 2009 at 10:59 AM | PERMALINK
[Because if there's one thing Republicans have "experience" with, it's improving health care delivery efficiently and cost effectively.]
Republicans have experience with improving efficiency and cost-effectiveness on many things. They are all **FAILED** experiences, but let's ignore that for now...
Posted by: Shade Tail on November 15, 2009 at 11:04 AM | PERMALINK
Since the DoD budget must, by law, increase by huge margins every year...
And since the DoD budget has bipartisan support...
And since the DoD budget doesn't really cost anything...
We, the GOP senate, submit the following HCR proposal: Start more wars requiring more troops. Draft those that are uninsured to fight those wars. With that simple proposal, there will be no more uninsured, the unemployment issue will be resolved, and the world will respect our military might. Next problem, please. (Damn, governing is so simple!)
Posted by: Chopin on November 15, 2009 at 11:07 AM | PERMALINK
'GOP alternatives ... "don't cost money."'
They just cost lives.
Posted by: gilead on November 15, 2009 at 11:07 AM | PERMALINK
He added that Republicans "know from experience" that their ideas would "produce more effectively delivered cost service."
It is not for you to question our credibility. We got our "experience" of unambiguous successes from the Reagan era. We hold these truths to be self-evident.
1. Lowering taxes always increases government revenue.
2. Republicans always shrink government.
3. Making proclamations such as "Mr.Gorbachev, tear down this wall", is the only type of foreign diplomacy the U.S. ever needs.
4. You must own a ranch and get photo oped clearing brush in order to be an effective leader.
5. Pretending to be "religious" is good enough for the "religious" vote.
6. Now more then ever (insert date here), government is the source of all our problems.
7. America is a center right, to slightly further right, to mostly far right country.
Posted by: Your Friendly GOP on November 15, 2009 at 11:20 AM | PERMALINK
Why not unveil a proposal, and let Americans compare the strengths and weaknesses of the competing approaches?
Uh, maybe because they forgot how to write stuff like,,, legislation ---
Corporatist lobbies have been doing all their pen work since about 1980.
Posted by: cwolf on November 15, 2009 at 12:13 PM | PERMALINK
Why not unveil a proposal?
Because the House Republican Bill sank like a stone after it was revealed it would change the CBO uninsured baseline by a net Zero.
The health care debate overall rests on a basis of fear. The uninsured constantly fear they will get sick, the insured fear they will become uninsured. The House Republican bill did nothing to assuage that fear and while I haven't pursued any polling results suspect it didn't help their numbers. There is no reason for Senate Republicans to play that game when they can simply sit back on Defence as the Party of No.
Posted by: Bruce Webb on November 15, 2009 at 12:17 PM | PERMALINK
C'mon, Republicans! Why all this needless dithering?
Posted by: Jim Strain on November 15, 2009 at 12:54 PM | PERMALINK
Sorry Mr. President, it was a happy thought but, enough bi-partisan bullshit! Fuck the GOP right in the ear, fuck Lieberman "Abner Louima" style and mow down any blue dog that gets in the way. Democrats are way too accomodating for the country's good! The polls await.
Posted by: Trollop on November 15, 2009 at 4:39 PM | PERMALINK
Gregg went on to say that his party won't get analyses from the Congressional Budget Office because "we don't know how to score them under CBO rules." He added that Republicans "know from experience" that their ideas would "produce more effectively delivered cost service."
Step 2: ???
Step 3: (insurance industry) Profit!
Posted by: Mithrandir on November 15, 2009 at 4:58 PM | PERMALINK
"fuck Lieberman 'Abner Louima' style"
Trollop on November 15, 2009 at 4:39 PM
That was a thing of beauty.
And "a thing of beauty is a joy for-evah," as we say here in Boston.
Posted by: smartalek on November 16, 2009 at 7:33 AM | PERMALINK