Here's hoping Senate Democratic leaders ignore Republican pleas for more time to attack a bill the minority has already decided to oppose en masse.

Too bad the media won't ignore the Republicans. The narrative has already started: Obama and the Democrats have failed to reach out to Republicans and instead have chosen a partisan path to this bill. The bill's failure is, therefore, the fault of Obama's hyperpartisanship.

Just look at Chuck Todd's nonsense yesterday about how McCain's flip-flopping is Obama's fault. Look at how many print and TV news segments have run the story of the Democrats not being bipartisan about this bill. Each of these stories contains self-refuting quotes and clips of Republicans saying loudly, clearly, and in no uncertain terms that they will oppose ANY bill no matter what's in it or what compromises are made.

We don't really need 40 Republican Senators. We just need one Republican with 40 times. It's a terribly wasteful system.

Though you do need manpower to do a filibuster. I suppose that's what the 39 are for.

Didn't we hear something about calling these types of guys out? Call out Kyl-for exactly what SB is saying and move it along. They've could've read it if they wanted to. Get pictures of them out on the town or on talk shows doing everything but reading the bill and publish them. End the b.s. and get it done.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that GOP demands for six weeks of debate has very little to do with genuine interest in good-faith deliberations, and everything to do with pointless delay tactics.

So watch for Obama and Democratic "leaders" to "compromise" and offer the Republicans nine weeks of debate.

It's this kind of strategic brilliance that will lead to a final health care reform bill that will double our premiums . . . again.

We did hear Barack Obama during the famous address to the joint session of "You lie!" say he would call them out.

Any "out calling" these last several weeks has been tepid.

The email we got this morning from Mitch Stewart of the Obama Corporation, sez we're all on the brink of hopey-changey hrc -- gasp gasp..about to attain Obama's goals for it:

"provide more security for those who have insurance, guarantee affordable coverage options for those who don't, and rein in the cost of care for American businesses and families.

And it accomplishes all of this while reducing the deficit by as much as $777 billion over the next 20 years."

So that's the language of victory right there. A vague, ambiguous, "we did it" whatever it ends up being...

i'm not feeling like there's specific enough detail in the language of these goals to, you know, really do much of anything except to say something was done.

In other words, comrades, i dont think they are ready to play final jeopardy on the health care reform... i think they're still at "Olympia Snowe for $300, Alex."

E-mail is not public discourse until now. Anything would be an imporovement over the status quo and can be built up from there, just as many past programs have been. Most recently Medicare Part D embraced by the GOP.

""every single Republican" in the Senate "will oppose" health care reform"

This just proves how evil Obama actually is. All the Republicans REALLY REALLY wanted a good health care bill - but Obama was just TOO MEAN.

Call me SILLY, but isn't the job of our PRESS CORPS to call out the hypocrisy and untruths that are constantly being put out there? I know, I know, they don't ...and, yes, Obama said there would be a CALLING OUT (where the H is it?)...I for one would not mind time to actually DEBATE/DISCUSS any important legistlation were it possible for those engaging in the D/D to be TRUTHFUL and actually present information worthy of inspection! We do NOT get that, however, we get LIES, obfusscation, and misrepresentations (often from both sides, sadly,) This country has been screwed since the mid-90's and I see little hope for a change...

What else is new?

They started singing the "No" song in June. REid and Pelosi allowed them to stall so thay could foment these ridiculous town hall shouting matches.

The Boner and the rest started singing "Hell no."

The only issue is whether in anyone in the Whitehouse and Reid's office is paying attention to Republican words and deeds.

I do think that Snowe and Collins will vote for final passage. HCR is popular in Maine. They will succeed in stripping out the public option, apart from the trigger "compromise".

It was smart strategy to go in with at least a public option opt-out. It doesn't stand a snow ball chance in hell of passing, but it will lead to the "grand" compromise of the Carper/Snowe trigger deal.

Place your bets now!

Lets pray for the republicans. "Let their days be ..."

Is there a word for that kind of self-contradictory talk? Like saying "The food was terrible and the portions were too small"?

Seriously, in rhetoric, is there a word for this?

We need six weeks to debate before we vote against it? We'll give it a trial before we hang it?